Alabama Election Results: Doug Jones Defeats Roy Moore in U.S. Senate Race

dphantom

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while losing a republican seat is bad, have Moore in as senator is worse. Voters are always smarter than we assume.

EDIT: NY Times is the source of the headline

FoxNews is reporting same
 
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yllus

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I think two things are going to happen, one quickly and one slowly:
  1. McConnell is going to speed through tax cuts ASAP before Doug Jones is seated in the Senate to make sure they go through.
  2. Trump is now more vulnerable than ever to impeachment. Not only is there one more senator not on his side, but the reasons for Republicans to back him just decreased remarkably. He was a fluke and everything he touches turns to the opposite of gold. Maybe Pence would do better.
 

Dulanic

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I am really, really surprised, and in a very pleasant way. I stand, with hat in hand, apologizing to the citizens of Alabama. Well done.
I have in law's in AL and I bet they're fuming right now. They didn't surprise me or my wife.
 

Jhhnn

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I hope it holds. All Democrats should send a thank you note to Steve Bannon for whipping up the fringe whacks & putting Roy Moore on the ticket. Luther Strange probably would have beat the pants off of Doug Jones.
 
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and the sad part is if Pence were to also be kicked to the curb, Ryan would then take the office. Ugh.
Its like a turd rolling down bullshit mountain, the more it rolls downhill the more shit it collects and the bigger it gets.
president betsy devos, or president rick perry, swirl those around in your mouth for a bit and try not to projectile vomit.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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It was a fuck-ton closer than it ever should have been. It shouldn't have even been a contest.

Luther Strange would have probably carried the state by 15-20 points. I think it's a pretty huge statement by Republican voters who stayed home instead of blindly supporting their party.
 

Jaskalas

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I was one of those votes for Doug Jones today. Granted, I was voting for him before Moore's assault of teenage girls became public.

What happened tonight is a contest between objective reality and belief. Many folks in Alabama clung to a belief that the allegations by 7 or 9 women, and their 30+ friends and family who all knew of the assaults 30+ years ago were all false. They had faith in a champion. Others, however, took to the facts of the case and made their own judgements. Justice has now been served for a predator who preyed on a high school classroom up to the point of returning to marry one of them. Thank you Alabama for finding a just end.

It was a close contest. Many folks are not objective, many folks are not attached to reality. It's a fascinating phenomena, and we can only truly begin to study and observe this effect, in full, in the modern age of the internet. There literally are alternative facts being used... and respected as if they are equal. (They are not). And contact with the truth is not enough. It takes a more concerted, careful, and detailed effort to crack this nuttery. Alabama barely edged above it to stop a predator, but they do not rise above it to stop harmful economic policies.

As a nation, let us stop and reflect how we might do better. And that it begins, as always, one step at a time.
 
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Paratus

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I think two things are going to happen, one quickly and one slowly:
  1. McConnell is going to speed through tax cuts ASAP before Doug Jones is seated in the Senate to make sure they go through.
  2. Trump is now more vulnerable than ever to impeachment. Not only is there one more senator not on his side, but the reasons for Republicans to back him just decreased remarkably. He was a fluke and everything he touches turns to the opposite of gold. Maybe Pence would do better.

For part one, McConnell shot himself in the foot (or other part of the anatomy) when they screwed up the AMT tax. So they already should have had a bill to put on the presidents desk. It will be interesting to see how long the back and forth between the House and Senate takes.

For Trump you make a good point. He backed Strange and he lost. Then he backed pedo Moore and he lost. There’s already been some sniping at Bannon for “dragging the president into this fiasco “. GOP civil war?
 

Bitek

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WTF white women.

Guy attacks, belittles, tries to rape teens.. and 2/3s of WW still vote for him.

This is why we haven't had a female president yet. Men would never take 1/10th that sort of shit and still vote for a woman.

Demand better, get better.
 

Zorba

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I think two things are going to happen, one quickly and one slowly:
  1. McConnell is going to speed through tax cuts ASAP before Doug Jones is seated in the Senate to make sure they go through.
  2. Trump is now more vulnerable than ever to impeachment. Not only is there one more senator not on his side, but the reasons for Republicans to back him just decreased remarkably. He was a fluke and everything he touches turns to the opposite of gold. Maybe Pence would do better.

When will he be seated? I was thinking the same thing, though.
 

Jhhnn

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Looks like Bannon’s hope of being a king maker took a bigly trumping.

He'll be back. He has more sway over the delusional Repub primary voting base than their own reps. All he wants is to watch it burn.

If the GOP wants to win, they'll have to take back their own primary process from the fringe whacks & nutbars they've nurtured & crazified for decades. Good luck with that.
 
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