Alabama Election Results: Doug Jones Defeats Roy Moore in U.S. Senate Race

[zinfamous]

You'd need 67 senators to remove Trump from office. Impeachment is going to happen if the DNC takes the House but Trump would need to have actually shot someone in Times Square to get enough Republican senators to vote for conviction.

sure, but in the that hypothetical, you need a Dem house for impeachment trials to proceed. In that situation, there would be no Paul Ryan to worry about taking over after Pence is likewise booted (the guy is just as involved in all this shit and everyone knows it). That's all I'm saying.

 

[Jhhnn]

You'd need 67 senators to remove Trump from office. Impeachment is going to happen if the DNC takes the House but Trump would need to have actually shot someone in Times Square to get enough Republican senators to vote for conviction.

It would be smart to wait & see what Mueller comes up with before saying that.

 

[Pens1566]

Only downside is that now Moore has ample free time to cruise high schools and malls.

I think a big reason he lost is devoting too much campaign time to the 14-18 demographic.

 

[zinfamous]

Wow, Moore not admitting defeat.
Already pushing the re-count option.

God told him he would win, so of course this can't be real.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Lol Roy Moore takes recounts and tells the media to talk to the SOS about the rules. CNN talks to Alabama SOS who basically says, yeah that’s not likely. We are usually pretty good at running elections and we anticipate swearing in Jones.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

 

[5to1baby1in5]

Alabama law is 0.5, not 1.5.

https://ballotpedia.org/Recount_laws_in_Alabama

He can demand a recount if he pays for it.
Do you think he'll go there?

 

[zinfamous]

lol those By-lines.

 

[fskimospy]

He can demand a recount if he pays for it.
Do you think he'll go there?

No, probably not. 1.5 points is a lot to overcome in a recount and I doubt too many people are going to want to pay for it.

The one exception I could think of would be republicans paying for one to delay the seating of Jones so they could finish passing their tax bill though.

 

[Mxylplyx]

I am really, really surprised, and in a very pleasant way. I stand, with hat in hand, apologizing to the citizens of Alabama. Well done.

Don’t apologize. We are still backwards as hell here in Alabama. Jones’s slight margin doesn’t erase all the deplorables that voted for Moore.

 

[nickqt]

Happily surprised. It’s still amazing that half of all voters thought to themselves either:
1: he might be a pedophile but at least he isn’t a democrat
2: I can’t vote for the pedophile, but shit I can’t vote for the decent democrat.

Anyway, this one turned out right, for the wrong reasons, but a win over straight theocratic authoritarian bigotry is a win over straight theocratic authoritarian bigotry.

 

[zinfamous]

Don’t apologize. We are still backwards as hell here in Alabama. Jones’s slight margin doesn’t erase all the deplorables that voted for Moore.

Think about it this way: all those deplorables just learned that they aren't quite the hegemony that they thought they were in that state.

....but yeah, Jones is probably going to be a thoroughly conservative "democrat" and if anything, will do what he feels he must do to actually represent the deplorables. Don't be shocked if he goes all-in on many of Trump's worst policies.

 

[UNCjigga]

I gotta feeling that Trump didn't actually send that gracious tweet congratulating Jones...I think someone in the WH made sure that Trump's account tweeted before Moore's speech to ensure POTUS doesn't get embroiled in any calls of fraud/recount/illegals etc. that may or may not come from the Moore camp.

 

[fleshconsumed]

So, looks like Trump bet on a loosing horse twice in Alabama. First by backing Strange over Moore, and then by backing Moore. The irony couldn't be more delicious. Trump is probably fuming right now.

 

[Triloby]

I'll be honest. I never expected a Democrat to actually win in Alabama of all places. While I'm glad that Doug Jones won the race, I still can't help but think that he only won by a small margin of about 1.5% or less. It still means that there's a lot of support for Moore in AL, even after all of his dirty laundry was aired to the public.

But I guess taking baby steps is still better than taking no steps at all, IMO. Massive respects to those in AL that went out and voted for Doug.

On the bright side, though, Steve Bannon managed to unironically get a Democrat in Alabama elected to the U.S. Senate. Some political strategist (LOL ) that fuck nugget was.

 

[Zorba]

I gotta feeling that Trump didn't actually send that gracious tweet congratulating Jones...I think someone in the WH made sure that Trump's account tweeted before Moore's speech to ensure POTUS doesn't get embroiled in any calls of fraud/recount/illegals etc. that may or may not come from the Moore camp.

Don't worry, I am sure he will walk it all back by 8 am tomorrow morning.

 

[sportage]

Trump can ALWAYS deny the tweet.... tomorrow morning.
And he will.

So consider, this is the second huge win for democrats in the last few months.
Trump is indeed making America GREAT AGAIN.
Exactly as he had hoped.
Now THERE is a conspiracy theory for you conspiracy theorist.
Is this what Trump had planned from day one?
Is Donald Trump still that liberal guy he once was back in his early days?
Could Trump have known he could fool most Americans because he understood the nature of human stupidity?
How in this age of cell phones, reality TV, and a ten second attention spans that Trump could fool the people, get elected, then impose his liberal agenda?
Could Donald Trump actually be the original Manchurian Candidate sent to assassinate republican far right extremism?
I know of one republican that must ask himself that same question daily... Mitch McConnell.

 

[soundforbjt]

Someone on Fox blamed McConnell for the loss, it was one of those follow the circle of missteps and it leads to the turtle not supporting Mo Brooks.

 

[cytg111]

I have in law's in AL and I bet they're fuming right now. They didn't surprise me or my wife.

Maybe a lot of Moore voters are very upset on the outside yet very relieved on the inside over this outcome?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Look, I generally don't care for horses, don't know why, but I just don't. However this poor, noble animal did not get to choose his rider.

 

[HomerJS]

Jones - 49.9%
Moore - 48.4%

????

Congratulations to Alabama on barely doing the right thing

Methinks if Doug Jones had been black he would have lost

 

[Puffnstuff]

Considering that we're talking about Alabama I'd venture to say that people were turned off by his horse.....just saying. If he'd shown up with 15 year old twins in his arms they'd have cheered him on.

 

[Commodus]

Jones - 49.9%
Moore - 48.4%

????

Congratulations to Alabama on barely doing the right thing

Methinks if Doug Jones had been black he would have lost

If he was anything other than a white, straight man he would have lost, to be specific.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Looks like Bannon’s hope of being a king maker took a bigly trumping.

He's probably not a political mastermind. But he's only got to outthink Donald Trump.

 

[Jaskalas]

I encourage a cautious optimism over this election result.

While there are many messages that can be gleamed, and one I would take is no election is impossible - even in the reddest state, 2018 and 2020 will not be reflected by the circumstances in Alabama in 2017. Especially in Alabama, Doug Jones has limited time to make a positive impact before Republicans have a chance to nominate a more likable candidate. It should be expected the state returns to its red meat origins ASAP.

At least the silver lining is this hinders Senate Republicans and President Trump through two upcoming elections. They will not regain that Senate seat until President Trump faces the voters again. We live in interesting times. And in fitting with that Chinese curse, I would say Alabama was one correct step in a swamp of missteps. The journey we are on is never over. We still need to look towards hard fought contests in the future.

So a man pursuing high school girls is enough to turn an election. But just barely. The economy is our real battleground, a field on which near all Americans, their teenage daughters included, are preyed upon by Wall Street vultures and harmed in many ways. Our fellow Americans need a campaign to help them see this truth, to understand its root cause, and to ward against blaming each other for the pickle we find ourselves in. There's over $15 trillion annually floating around in America, that's enough to make every single family worth million(s).

It's not joe the plumber or jose the cook's fault that your labors have stiffed you. The economy has devalued your labor on the natural course of its own evolution. It's time our policy evolved with it, and kept up with adaptations necessary to ensure the safety and security of our nation, and our people. We don't need all the money out there, or even a majority of it. But we do need enough to survive on. The American people had a greater share before, it's time they shake Wall Street and claim more of it again.

My vision of a strong Democratic Party is one that speaks to the 99% with policy that helps all of them.