Yeah but Alabama also seriously don't need no stinking Yankee eggheads.
Yeah that sounds like Alabama to me. Not quite as shitty as Mississippi or Louisiana, but damn it's close.
So the typical contempt for long term planning and the environment from the hillbillies is making the hook worm great again? Way to go idiots, don't forget to get indignant about your own stupidity and blame Obama or liberals for it. I feel sorry for the kids involved, but to their voting parents I say tough shit. I'm sure their entrenched republican legislature has made drugs like albendazole perfectly cheap and available. *cough* Funny they wouldn't take this more seriously, what with the outrage over the 'lazy Southerner' stereotype, that being caused by rampant hook worm infections throughout the South.
One more reason to avoid that state, throw it on the pile.
For their study site, the investigators chose an environment where hookworm would typically flourish—Lowndes County, Alabama—a place known for its “previous high hookworm burdens, degree of poverty, and use of open-sewage systems,” according to the study’s abstract. Lowndes County is one of the poorest counties in the country, according to NPR, one that cannot afford a septic system, leaving residents to create their own sewer line through the use of PVC piping, which goes from their toilets “and stretches off some 30 feet above ground until it reaches a small ditch.”
The solutions are already known and have been known for decades. Don't dump raw sewage on the lawn. Here are the systems they can install. https://www.livestrong.com/article/172209-alternatives-to-septic-tank-systems/I’m not kidding, i bet a few MIT students and a few months they could figure out a smart, affordable and elegant solution.
I’m not kidding, i bet a few MIT students and a few months they could figure out a smart, affordable and elegant solution.
This problem is occurring in poor rural black communities where they have improper sewage control and just dump their sewage on the lawn via a pipe. To fix this problem, these citizens will need to install proper sewer treatment. That is going to cost them $4k-$15k for a septic tank system and it is going to be an ongoing cost going forward of around $100/yr.
The solutions are already known and have been known for decades. Don't dump raw sewage on the lawn. Here are the systems they can install. https://www.livestrong.com/article/172209-alternatives-to-septic-tank-systems/
My brother looked into this stuff when he installed a septic tank for his north woods cabin. Sewage systems are not cheap.
On a side note, this problem reminds me of the game Redneck Rampage where the hillbillies had the toilets connected to the water well.
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Yeah that sounds like Alabama to me. Not quite as shitty as Mississippi or Louisiana, but damn it's close.
So the typical contempt for long term planning and the environment from the hillbillies is making the hook worm great again? Way to go idiots, don't forget to get indignant about your own stupidity and blame Obama or liberals for it. I feel sorry for the kids involved, but to their voting parents I say tough shit. I'm sure their entrenched republican legislature has made drugs like albendazole perfectly cheap and available. *cough* Funny they wouldn't take this more seriously, what with the outrage over the 'lazy Southerner' stereotype, that being caused by rampant hook worm infections throughout the South.
One more reason to avoid that state, throw it on the pile.
I didn't know black people were known as hillbillies? As the article states, the town is 70% black.
You guys really need to look at a map sometime. I know you like to think south east bible belt states are all a bunch of rednecks with missing teeth - but... well.... you're incredibly wrong.
Maybe just let the EPA handle it
Wait...we still have a functional E.P.A. ? Would have thought it all but dismantled by now.
I don't know of any city or town that provides free septic systems. I know of quite a few that require a perk test that measures the local soils ability to absorb liquids. That test determines the design of the system. In some areas it simply isn't piratical to install a septic system because the soil won't absorb the liquids, at that point the land can't be built on. Reading the article, it appears that Alabama has those controls in place, and that they are ignored.All the problems would go away.
Lowndes county in Alabam, hook worm is making a comeback likely due to failing sewerage and “straight piping” which is basically allowing people to dump raw sewerage in their yards.
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article...a-year-ago-the-state-has-done-little-about-it
I don't know of any city or town that provides free septic systems. I know of quite a few that require a perk test that measures the local soils ability to absorb liquids. That test determines the design of the system. In some areas it simply isn't piratical to install a septic system because the soil won't absorb the liquids, at that point the land can't be built on. Reading the article, it appears that Alabama has those controls in place, and that they are ignored.
The idea that increased taxes are the solution has some merit, but it leads to the next obvious question, how much are you willing to pay for my septic system? Some back of the napkin math shows that they're looking at about 45 million to solve the problem. So about $4500 in taxes from every single resident in the town. A big chunk for people that earn 30k per year.
The solution will end up being government forcing people to move off of land that can't support them.
The solution will end up being government forcing people to move off of land that can't support them.
There is no current sewage system to be maintained or repaired. Septic systems are on the homeowners property.Not saying free, I’m saying low interest loans that should be provided from the State but since it’s Alabama those low interest loans would likely be backed by the Federal Government.
What’s described is third world country stuff, untreated sewage being dumped in yards, hookworm making a comeback.
Ignoring the above at bare minimum the County should be able to maintain the current sewer system and replace what is broken or leaking
The question then becomes, do they do something to help them relocate, or just toss them to the curb.
They sound like good candidates for a Basic Income and a Federal Housing Loan program. Shame we lack a proper safety net that'd catch these folks and help keep them in first world conditions.
I didn't know black people were known as hillbillies? As the article states, the town is 70% black.
You guys really need to look at a map sometime. I know you like to think south east bible belt states are all a bunch of rednecks with missing teeth - but... well.... you're incredibly wrong.
There is no current sewage system to be maintained or repaired. Septic systems are on the homeowners property.
I agree with you about the zero interest loans. But how many of the people with failed systems can afford even a few dollars a month? Assume $15k and a 20 year term and it's still a round a $60 a month.
The reality is that since it's a public health issue the state will have to take action. The mechanism that's already in place is condemning the structure as unsafe and forcing the occupants to move. The question then becomes, do they do something to help them relocate, or just toss them to the curb.
Is the question can a black guy be a redneck?
Of course!
I would describe Bubba from Forest Gump a redneck.
He was a good redneck and he had all of his teeth.
There is no current sewage system to be maintained or repaired. Septic systems are on the homeowners property.
I agree with you about the zero interest loans. But how many of the people with failed systems can afford even a few dollars a month? Assume $15k and a 20 year term and it's still a round a $60 a month.
The reality is that since it's a public health issue the state will have to take action. The mechanism that's already in place is condemning the structure as unsafe and forcing the occupants to move. The question then becomes, do they do something to help them relocate, or just toss them to the curb.
I doubt the feds will be doing anything as this is a city or county problem. The state may step in if it's serious enough.These are really poor people living in poor rural Southern counties with very few job opportunities. The double wide trailers you see in the article pictures that they live in were probably heavily subsidized by the federal government. They barely make ends meet to survive. They may get tossed to the curb since this is rural Alabama. Maybe Trump can spare a few wall bucks to help them out.
This is what they used to live in not too many years ago and they had outhouses if they were lucky.
I think Neal Young nailed it, quite a while back.
"Southern man, when will you stop crapping in your yard?"
^ yeah but then Lynard Skynard told him where to shove it and how far in a song so much better even Neil had to admit defeat.