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TanisHalfElven

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Originally posted by: sbuckler
His question was a fair one, it's a shame the last few answers have been pretty abusive bordering on racist

hey i'm of the same race as him.
the people in this forum have been nothing BUT patient with him. but come one.

Its a long story Sbuckler boy :! you just haven't see his other thread.
ah that explains it

ust because you cant afford the newest technology we all should suffer?

There will always be a point when something comes out that requires more than "what you have" and "what you can afford".

Thats life...get used to it.

I can't afford a Ferrari....Should they not make them?

I think it's great there coming out with games "vista" only and "quad core".

Does it force people to upgrade...maybe. But hey, people need to learn change is good sometimes, no matter how much you dont like it.

If you cant learn to live with new technology and stuff that supports it then this is not for you.

If we wait till the masses have quad cores, we wont be enjoying them till 2010! is that what you really want?

I do hate to say it but....You really should buy a console.


I for one CAN afford the newest technology and can't wait to take advantage of it.
I'm sorry i can't wait for some people to "catch up"

he can afford a x1900xtx (and he bought it before the arrival 7950gx2, ie when it the absolute top performing card around)

While I agree with you, and I certainly won't hold back from picking on akshayt a bit because of his posting history, the defamatory comments about India in general and the call center stereotypes are not really appropriate.

he started it by saying the indians have to study 5-6 hours a day or 4-5 minimum. before that nobody made any mention of india even though most ppl who read the old thread knew about it.

i don't see an aegia PhysX card in your rig.

. . . nor conroe


some of us are not caught up in the HYPE as MOST of you are.

REALITY check.

DX10 is not here anytime soon in games . .. at LEAST 2 years off for full dx10 games

Vista ships with a DX9 desktop ., . . Full DX10 support is coming in the SP1 [or 2]

Multicore and phys X are not yet ready for primetime for gaming . . . again years off.

"next gen" Consoles are DX9 not DX10 . . . they will be programming for the LCD for another 5 years.

whats your problem ?
he's just ssaying that every tom and harry does not have dual/quad (or any new tech) developers should not make good use of it. \


"next gen" Consoles are DX9 not DX10 . . . they will be programming for the LCD for another 5 years.
nex gen consoles are neither DX9 nor DX10. its cuz there not DX at all. they have their own custom API. maybe its related to DX (in MS case) maybe not.

I'm sorry but that's quite the ignorant post there - there are several countries where people studying 4-5 hours/day isn't so unusual...and it has nothing to do with their capability to retain information.

elite students studying 4-5 hours is OK.
saying you have to study miniumum 4-5 hours is like saying your so stupid you'll fail without that much study

There are people that study that much after school. I don't see why you're so incredulous. I didn't that much in high school but I sure did in college. Some people study that much even in high school.

Then there are the japanese that study a lot when they are taking entrance exams.

elite students studying 4-5 hours is OK.
saying you have to study miniumum 4-5 hours is like saying your so stupid you'll fail without that much study
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akshayt

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In India there are 300,000 students who give entrance exams and only around 150 get selected for comp engineering in top colleges. Now you know the reason for that many hours.
 

josh6079

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Like I said, sounds like you got involved in the wrong hobby. You should devote all of that time towards school so you can buy all of the "crappy" hardware you want with a good job.
 

tuteja1986

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Originally posted by: akshayt
In India there are 300,000 students who give entrance exams and only around 150 get selected for comp engineering in top colleges. Now you know the reason for that many hours.

150 lol ... more than 150 dude ;(
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: tuteja1986
Originally posted by: akshayt
In India there are 300,000 students who give entrance exams and only around 150 get selected for comp engineering in top colleges. Now you know the reason for that many hours.

150 lol ... more than 150 dude ;(

for once he is telling the truth . . . clearly and without exaggeration

he is talking about the TOP colleges . . . great jobs . . . not the 'also rans' which are the graduates you and i get when we get stuck in 'Dell Hell', New Delli tech support
[or the equivalent down under]
 

Sable

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Originally posted by: akshayt
In India there are 300,000 students who give entrance exams and only around 150 get selected for comp engineering in top colleges. Now you know the reason for that many hours.
Wait wait wait.

YOU are going to do computer engineering? :shocked: :laugh:
 

Capt Caveman

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Based on the intelligence from your posts, you need to study even more. Don't come here no more...
 

josh6079

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Thread title should be changed from Alan Wake WTH to Akshayt's Wonders WTH. It amazes me that he's thinking about pursuing that field. All he'll ever do in a computer engineering program is complain about top-of-the-line hardware and call it crap while yelling at his teachers for trying to help him.
 

R3MF

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i am glad that leading edge games are starting to specify new technologies as minimum requirments.

nothing hampers the advancement of PC game development more than endlessly supporting legacy equipment.

i am likewise glad that we have new next-gen consoles, because cross platform developers will no longer be limited by the power of an original Xbox of PS2.

For leading games coming out in the 1st half of 2007 I would like to see min-specs of:
> dual-core
> dual channel memory (PC3200)
> 1GB system memory
> DirectX 9.0c compliant card (note: compliant, not compatible)
> X1600Pro / 6600GT minimum video horsepower
 

akshayt

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All your desires will almost be full filled except dual core which only *** like alan wake will have

new games will need 512-1GB RAM, dual ch will probably not be required
geforce 6600 class is already the min for games like graw for practical purposes, actually to enjoy the game you should get atleast a 7600GT for very very average settings.
 

TanisHalfElven

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Originally posted by: Sable
Originally posted by: akshayt
In India there are 300,000 students who give entrance exams and only around 150 get selected for comp engineering in top colleges. Now you know the reason for that many hours.
Wait wait wait.

YOU are going to do computer engineering? :shocked: :laugh:

funny thing is i don't find this suprising.
there was thisstudent in my class. straight A student. brilliant guy. wanted to go to computer engineering. funny part was he had never so much installed a driver or upgraded a copmuter. hell he didnot even know how to clean install windows.

why!! oh god why did computer engineering become such a lame subject
 

Munky

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Originally posted by: R3MF
i am glad that leading edge games are starting to specify new technologies as minimum requirments.

nothing hampers the advancement of PC game development more than endlessly supporting legacy equipment.

i am likewise glad that we have new next-gen consoles, because cross platform developers will no longer be limited by the power of an original Xbox of PS2.

For leading games coming out in the 1st half of 2007 I would like to see min-specs of:
> dual-core
> dual channel memory (PC3200)
> 1GB system memory
> DirectX 9.0c compliant card (note: compliant, not compatible)
> X1600Pro / 6600GT minimum video horsepower

Those are all whaky requirements. For one thing, dual core is still a niche market, and the developers would effectively cut off the majority of PC gamers. Dual channel memory only makes things faster, there's no reason why the same code wouldnt run on single channel mem. 1 GB required mem - that can easily be reduced by using lower detail models, visibility distance and such on low end HW, without bogging down the performance on high end HW at high settings. DX9c - have you seen how the 6 and 7 series Nv cards perform with dynamic branching? It aint pretty, and there's a reason why most games today dont benefit from SM3. And worst of all - the SM3-compliant x1600 and 6600gt would get their butts handed to them in any game by the SM2-compliant x800 series cards, so no reason why a x1600p should be a minimum requirement as opposed to something like a 9800p.
 

CP5670

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What is this game about anyway? I hadn't even heard of it until this article was posted on various forums I visit. The requirements may make more sense if this game is still two years or more away from release.

As for the study issue, I've heard that most students study around 10 hours a day in the weeks leading up to the qualifying exams in the top math and applied math graduate programs. I'll find out for myself in a year or two.

By Top I mean IITs

Somehow I don't think you'll get accepted into an IIT.
 

R3MF

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Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: R3MF
i am glad that leading edge games are starting to specify new technologies as minimum requirments.

nothing hampers the advancement of PC game development more than endlessly supporting legacy equipment.

i am likewise glad that we have new next-gen consoles, because cross platform developers will no longer be limited by the power of an original Xbox of PS2.

For leading games coming out in the 1st half of 2007 I would like to see min-specs of:
> dual-core
> dual channel memory (PC3200)
> 1GB system memory
> DirectX 9.0c compliant card (note: compliant, not compatible)
> X1600Pro / 6600GT minimum video horsepower

Those are all whaky requirements. For one thing, dual core is still a niche market, and the developers would effectively cut off the majority of PC gamers. Dual channel memory only makes things faster, there's no reason why the same code wouldnt run on single channel mem. 1 GB required mem - that can easily be reduced by using lower detail models, visibility distance and such on low end HW, without bogging down the performance on high end HW at high settings. DX9c - have you seen how the 6 and 7 series Nv cards perform with dynamic branching? It aint pretty, and there's a reason why most games today dont benefit from SM3. And worst of all - the SM3-compliant x1600 and 6600gt would get their butts handed to them in any game by the SM2-compliant x800 series cards, so no reason why a x1600p should be a minimum requirement as opposed to something like a 9800p.
you may think so, but i do not.

you have to kill of support for legacy hardware to properly embrace the new.

where you do that is a matter for debate, but that it is necessary is not an issue i will bother to debate.
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: akshayt
All your desires will almost be full filled except dual core which only *** like alan wake will have

new games will need 512-1GB RAM, dual ch will probably not be required
geforce 6600 class is already the min for games like graw for practical purposes, actually to enjoy the game you should get atleast a 7600GT for very very average settings.

What in the hell are you talking about.
[*] Why would Alan Wake be crap if it requires Dual Core. Also as I believe Munky stated early it will run BEST on Dual and Quad Core systems. That isn't to say that it wont run at all on Single Core Systems. I honestly can't see why you are so worried about this...
[*] 512MB-1GB are you joking. 1GB is considered the norm right now. If you don't have a gig of RAM good luck gaming on anything. 2Gig is now considered the best for most gamers.
[*] You finally hit somewhere close to home. People still game on 9800Pro's and stuff. Dont fool yourself into thinking that you NEED a 6600 or greater. Turn the settings down. My Tablet PC has integrated extreme graphics (NO PIXEL SHADERS) and it manages to run a lot of things on the very low end settings.

akshayt, I applaud your aspirations to be a CE. However, with the stuff that you have been spewing out of late, i seriously seriously doubt that you will make it. If you say you are a Senior in HS that puts me 1 year older than you. Despite that age difference i feel like i am talking to a 12 year old who is trying way too hard to sound smart.

If you have enough time to post on these forums than you have more time to study and do other things so dont try and feed us that you have no time.

-Kevin
 
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