Alcohol? Not in My Cab!

[imported_dna]

Got wine at the airport? It's harder to grab a cab

Freedom from religious persecution takes a new twist, when muslim cab drivers in Minneapolis-St. Paul are allowed refuse passengers that have alcohol with them (duty free purchases). This is because according to Islamic law one is not allowed to transport alcohol.

A flight attendant made a very insightful observation:

"I came to this country and I didn't expect anybody to adjust to my needs," she said. "I don't want to impose my beliefs on anyone else. That's why I'm in this country, because of the freedom.

"What's going to be next? ... Do I have to cover my head?"

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: dna
Got wine at the airport? It's harder to grab a cab

Freedom from religios persecution takes a new.

What is this "religios" you speak of?


A private company allowing the driver to not to allow alcohol in the cab he drives is not religious discrimination. The passenger can easily throw away his brew or get another cab if he wants to ride with that cab driver.

 

[firewall]

meh.... what are you crying about?

Those affected by this should just get some other cab. If the cab driver wants to lose his business, so be it.

 

[PELarson]

Originally posted by: dna
Got wine at the airport? It's harder to grab a cab

Freedom from religios persecution takes a new twist, when muslim cab drivers in Minneapolis-St. Paul are allowed refuse passengers that have alcohol with them (duty free purchases). This is because according to Islamic law one is not allowed to transport alcohol.

A flight attendant made a very insightful observation:

"I came to this country and I didn't expect anybody to adjust to my needs," she said. "I don't want to impose my beliefs on anyone else. That's why I'm in this country, because of the freedom.

"What's going to be next? ... Do I have to cover my head?"

This is next. First was "christian" pharmacists not selling doctor perscribed medication because of their "so called" religous beliefs.

Like the pharmacists the cab drivers should lose their license. Airport cab drivers in a lot of places are licensed/permited to pickup at the airport.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: firewall
meh.... what are you crying about?

Those affected by this should just get some other cab. If the cab driver wants to lose his business, so be it.

There are no other cabs...Arabs drive all the cabs now

 

[imported_dna]

I think it is a problem when you give the cab drivers the authority to decide who they will take or not.
If you don't allow people with alcohol, why not allow other cabbies not to pick up black people due to safety concerns?
(I'm only bringing that up as an example for something that the media loves to talk about, and is used lots of time by black comedians)

In another forum someone posted the following comment:

Simple solution. Just tell Taxi Starter that you dont want a cab with a Somali Muslim regardless of whether you have open alcohol.

Choice works two-ways.

Somali drivers who dont want to starve will stop making stupid demands.

EDIT: I should add, that if people started asking for non-muslim drivers, you know that CAIR, or some other Politically Correct trolls would start making a fuss about people being bigots, racist, etc...

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: dna
Got wine at the airport? It's harder to grab a cab

Freedom from religios persecution takes a new.

What is this "religios" you speak of?


A private company allowing the driver to not to allow alcohol in the cab he drives is not religious discrimination. The passenger can easily throw away his brew or get another cab if he wants to ride with that cab driver.

What would you do if Muslims did all they could to buy every taxi cab company in the city?

 

[dahunan]

What other "religion" is so terrorfyingly strict and discriminatory?

 

[Rainsford]

First Christian pharmacists refusing to sell people certain medications they disaproved of, now this crap (although I can't help but notice that people whining about THIS seemed a lot less concerned when it was Christians being idiots). You might have freedom of religion, but you do NOT have the freedom to hold whatever job your like. If the fundamental duties of your job are contrary to your religious beliefs, get another job! If we start allowing stupid ass stuff like this, what's the logical end? Perhaps Christian air traffic controllers who refuse to direct any planes on Sunday?

 

[firewall]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: firewall
meh.... what are you crying about?

Those affected by this should just get some other cab. If the cab driver wants to lose his business, so be it.

There are no other cabs...Arabs drive all the cabs now

From the linked article:

About three-quarters of the 900 taxi drivers at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport are Somalis, many of them Muslim.

Arabs are not all Muslims. Even the article says "many" Somalis. Many could be as much 55% or as much as 99%. No conclusive figure has been given.

Now the airports commission has a solution: color-coding the lights on the taxi roofs to indicate whether a driver will accept a booze-toting fare.

Now there's a solution. Those affected should use this when it is implemented. The usage trends will show which cab drivers will remain and who won't in the long run. In the end, those refusing are just losing business. If they value their beliefs that much, lthey are risking their business. It is their own call.

The women, Buzek, who's been quoted says that she doesn't expects anybody to adjust to her needs and doesn't wants to impose her beliefs on other people, when in effect, she is trying to impose her belief on the cab drivers.

 

[firewall]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: dna
Got wine at the airport? It's harder to grab a cab

Freedom from religios persecution takes a new.

What is this "religios" you speak of?


A private company allowing the driver to not to allow alcohol in the cab he drives is not religious discrimination. The passenger can easily throw away his brew or get another cab if he wants to ride with that cab driver.

What would you do if Muslims did all they could to buy every taxi cab company in the city?

The same I would do with pro-Israel media. Stop watching/using them. 'nuff said!

Alternatives are always there. You only have to open your eyes and take off the tinfoil hats....

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: dna
I think it is a problem when you give the cab drivers the authority to decide who they will take or not.
If you don't allow people with alcohol, why not allow other cabbies not to pick up black people due to safety concerns?
(I'm only bringing that up as an example for something that the media loves to talk about, and is used lots of time by black comedians)

In another forum someone posted the following comment:

Simple solution. Just tell Taxi Starter that you dont want a cab with a Somali Muslim regardless of whether you have open alcohol.

Choice works two-ways.

Somali drivers who dont want to starve will stop making stupid demands.

EDIT: I should add, that if people started asking for non-muslim drivers, you know that CAIR, or some other Politically Correct trolls would start making a fuss about people being bigots, racist, etc...

That IS being bigoted...you are discriminating based on religion, NOT because you want to transport alcohol and the cabbie won't let you. The suggestion is to refuse to use a Muslim taxi whether or not you have alcohol and whether or not the taxi driver would refuse to transport it. So alcohol isn't the primary factor in your decision, the driver's religion is.

 

[firewall]

Originally posted by: dahunan
What other "religion" is so terrorfyingly strict and discriminatory?

Oh, I dunno..... Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism, and so on... The violence is a projection of ones own stereotypes about each of them....

 

[firewall]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
First Christian pharmacists refusing to sell people certain medications they disaproved of, now this crap (although I can't help but notice that people whining about THIS seemed a lot less concerned when it was Christians being idiots). You might have freedom of religion, but you do NOT have the freedom to hold whatever job your like. If the fundamental duties of your job are contrary to your religious beliefs, get another job! If we start allowing stupid ass stuff like this, what's the logical end? Perhaps Christian air traffic controllers who refuse to direct any planes on Sunday?

They lose the business = they lose their jobs... exactly what I have been saying... in not so many words.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: firewall
The women, Buzek, who's been quoted says that she doesn't expects anybody to adjust to her needs and doesn't wants to impose her beliefs on other people, when in effect, she is trying to impose her belief on the cab drivers.

Ehm... the women didn't impose any beliefs -- she just wanted to go from point A to point B without having to dispose of some of her belongings.

What she expected (above) seems to be very much in line with what a taxi driver's job is.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: firewall

Originally posted by: Rainsford
First Christian pharmacists refusing to sell people certain medications they disaproved of, now this crap (although I can't help but notice that people whining about THIS seemed a lot less concerned when it was Christians being idiots). You might have freedom of religion, but you do NOT have the freedom to hold whatever job your like. If the fundamental duties of your job are contrary to your religious beliefs, get another job! If we start allowing stupid ass stuff like this, what's the logical end? Perhaps Christian air traffic controllers who refuse to direct any planes on Sunday?

They lose the business = they lose their jobs... exactly what I have been saying... in not so many words.

Touche

 

[fjord]

In this context, the next logical step is that Muslim cab drivers (and by extension other services and professions) won't pick-up any non-muslims, only Muslims can be serviced by Muslims.

And equally Catholic cab drivers would only pick-up Catholic passengers, etc, etc., etc..

Beyond the irrefutable fact that there is no-none-nada evidence for the existance of any God, at all...religion (as irrational as it is) is a very personal dynamic--why would anyone go beyond the private self when it comes to religion.

This is the same problem with folks that want to teach religion in school. Its a private matter--not a public matter.

Your relationship with God is your own. If you want it respected then respect others just the same.

And if someone points out that a belief in God is irrational since there is no objective evidence for the existance of a God--don't get bent out of shape--No one is abridging or attempting to abridge your right or ability to believe what you want about God.

Just don't legislate it--and don't foist it on anyone else.

 

[firewall]

Originally posted by: dna
What she expected (above) seems to be very much in line with what a taxi driver's job is.

Yup, and if someone is not doing the job you want them to do, you get someone else to do it. It's easy enought to figure out.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: firewall
The women, Buzek, who's been quoted says that she doesn't expects anybody to adjust to her needs and doesn't wants to impose her beliefs on other people, when in effect, she is trying to impose her belief on the cab drivers.

Ehm... the women didn't impose any beliefs -- she just wanted to go from point A to point B without having to dispose of some of her belongings.

What she expected (above) seems to be very much in line with what a taxi driver's job is.

She imposed the belief that she shouldn't BE FORCED to wear a burqua *however in the hell you spell it* HOW DARE HER --- biatch.. get in your place and do as you are told

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
That IS being bigoted...you are discriminating based on religion, NOT because you want to transport alcohol and the cabbie won't let you. The suggestion is to refuse to use a Muslim taxi whether or not you have alcohol and whether or not the taxi driver would refuse to transport it. So alcohol isn't the primary factor in your decision, the driver's religion is.

Isn't the driver discriminating based on religion? The only difference is that the driver is using his religion in the discrimination process, and not the passanger's.
You could say that he is discriminating against non-muslims.

 

[kingtas]

No problem. I'll dispose of this drink and buy another one when I get to my destination - with your tip.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: firewall

Originally posted by: dna
What she expected (above) seems to be very much in line with what a taxi driver's job is.

Yup, and if someone is not doing the job you want them to do, you get someone else to do it. It's easy enought to figure out.

And ... if they owned all the taxis.. then what? WE ARE FORCED to use more difficult or time consuming forms of transportation? The only time that matters to those crazy zealots is when they have to kneel down and pray..

 

[dahunan]

Can I refuse to let anyone in my cab who is wearing clothing that offends me.. and that clothing happens to be religious attire?

 

[firewall]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: Rainsford
That IS being bigoted...you are discriminating based on religion, NOT because you want to transport alcohol and the cabbie won't let you. The suggestion is to refuse to use a Muslim taxi whether or not you have alcohol and whether or not the taxi driver would refuse to transport it. So alcohol isn't the primary factor in your decision, the driver's religion is.

Isn't the driver discriminating based on religion? The only difference is that the driver is using his religion in the discrimination process, and not the passanger's.
You could say that he is discriminating against non-muslims.

Might I remind you not all non-Muslims drink wine?

It's like if I personally don't like smoking, I don't make any friends who smoke... my loss as I will have fewer friends. I can bring religion in the argument to support my actions... it doesn't mean that it is the fault of the religion.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: fjord
In this context, the next logical step is that Muslim cab drivers (and by extension other services and professions) won't pick-up any non-muslims, only Muslims can be serviced by Muslims.

And equally Catholic cab drivers would only pick-up Catholic passengers, etc, etc., etc..

Bad progression and impossible business model if it occurs, it is one thing to request that someone surrender their booze when riding in one's cab, it is another to alienate the majority of the population from one's service (and thus reduce one's income). If that (banning people not of one's dogma) happens (which it will not) then bye bye said cab company and hello bankruptcy.

The Muslim cab drivers in question are not forcing religion on their customers, they (the cab drivers) just don?t want to break their own religious code by traveling with the customer's booze.