Alcoholism is not a disease.

gigapet

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drinking problem? what drinking problem!!?!? I never have a hard time drinking too much. And sometimes Drinking too much is not enough!
 

BriGy86

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if anything its only a condition, a self indused condition

diseases are cause by viruses
 

Safeway

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Originally posted by: BriGy86
if anything its only a condition, a self indused condition

diseases are cause by viruses


Self induced? Do you know anything about alcoholism? Alcoholism has been shown to be highly hereditary. People become addicted to alcohol just like any other drug, mentally and physically addicted. It is not all self induced. People that are actual alcoholics started out as innocently as you, but their body, due to heredity, demanded more of it. Its like heroin to them.

Self induced is not the right choice of words.
 

BriGy86

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Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: BriGy86
if anything its only a condition, a self indused condition

diseases are cause by viruses


Self induced? Do you know anything about alcoholism? Alcoholism has been shown to be highly hereditary. People become addicted to alcohol just like any other drug, mentally and physically addicted. It is not all self induced. People that are actual alcoholics started out as innocently as you, but their body, due to heredity, demanded more of it. Its like heroin to them.

Self induced is not the right choice of words.

they don't HAVE to start drinking
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: BriGy86
if anything its only a condition, a self indused condition

diseases are cause by viruses


Self induced? Do you know anything about alcoholism? Alcoholism has been shown to be highly hereditary. People become addicted to alcohol just like any other drug, mentally and physically addicted. It is not all self induced. People that are actual alcoholics started out as innocently as you, but their body, due to heredity, demanded more of it. Its like heroin to them.

Self induced is not the right choice of words.

Bollocks.
 

TitanDiddly

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Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: BriGy86
if anything its only a condition, a self indused condition

diseases are cause by viruses


Self induced? Do you know anything about alcoholism? Alcoholism has been shown to be highly hereditary. People become addicted to alcohol just like any other drug, mentally and physically addicted. It is not all self induced. People that are actual alcoholics started out as innocently as you, but their body, due to heredity, demanded more of it. Its like heroin to them.

Self induced is not the right choice of words.

You sir, are an idiot.
 

Megatomic

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Originally posted by: BriGy86
they don't HAVE to start drinking
QFT

And, while it can be hereditary, it's not always. On my mom's side of the family there is rampant alcoholism. But I have never become addicted, and I have been known to get wasted in my life.
 

Amused

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While it is true that some people are more easily addicted to alcohol, it is STILL a choice to keep drinking, or dry out.

No matter how heavily one is addicted, the CHOICE is still there.

I've kicked two of the strongest addictions known to man. Both were hell to go through, but in the end, it was ALL up to me. It was a simple, but agonizing CHOICE to STOP.

In the end, addiction is NOT a disease. It is a choice.
 

Amplifier

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Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: BriGy86
if anything its only a condition, a self indused condition

diseases are cause by viruses


Self induced? Do you know anything about alcoholism? Alcoholism has been shown to be highly hereditary. People become addicted to alcohol just like any other drug, mentally and physically addicted. It is not all self induced. People that are actual alcoholics started out as innocently as you, but their body, due to heredity, demanded more of it. Its like heroin to them.

Self induced is not the right choice of words.

Yeah an people are fat because of genetics...

PUT DOWN THAT PIZZA SIGNORE PAVAROTTI!!!1
 

labgeek

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Originally posted by: BriGy86
diseases are cause by viruses


Uh no... many diseases are not caused by viruses.
http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?disease

Note that "virus" appears no where in the definition.

disease
1. Lack of ease; uneasiness; trouble; vexation; disquiet. "So all that night they passed in great disease." (Spenser) "To shield thee from diseases of the world." (Shak)

2. An alteration in the state of the body or of some of its organs, interrupting or disturbing the performance of the vital functions, and causing or threatening pain and weakness; malady; affection; illness; sickness; disorder; applied figuratively to the mind, to the moral character and habits, to institutions, the state, etc. "Diseases desperate grown, By desperate appliances are relieved." (Shak) "The instability, injustice, and confusion introduced into the public counsels have, in truth, been the mortal diseases under which popular governments have every where perished." (Madison) Disease germ. See Germ.

Synonym: Distemper, ailing, ailment, malady, disorder, sickness, illness, complaint, indisposition, affection. Disease, Disorder, Distemper, Malady, Affection.

Disease is the leading medical term. Disorder mean much the same, with perhaps some slight reference to an irregularity of the system. Distemper is now used by physicians only of the diseases of animals. Malady is not a medical term, and is less used than formerly in literature. Affection has special reference to the part, organ, or function disturbed, as, his disease is an affection of the lungs. A disease is usually deep-seated and permanent, or at least prolonged, a disorder is often slight, partial, and temporary, malady has less of a technical sense than the other terms, and refers more especially to the suffering endured. In a figurative sense we speak of a disease mind, of disordered faculties, and of mental maladies.

Origin: OE. Disese, OF. Desaise; des- (L. Dis-) + aise ease. See Ease.

1. To deprive of ease; to disquiet; to trouble; to distress. "His double burden did him sore disease." (Spenser)

2. To derange the vital functions of; to afflict with disease or sickness; to disorder; used almost exclusively in the participle diseased. "He was diseased in body and mind." (Macaulay)

Origin: Diseased; Diseasing.

Source: Websters Dictionary

(01 Mar 1998)

 

Mathlete

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Originally posted by: BriGy86
if anything its only a condition, a self indused condition

diseases are cause by viruses

Ummmm HUH???

Cancer is a disease not caused by a virus, so is MS.

Jebus, Parkinsons and Lou Gehrig's have the fricken word disease right in the name and I am pretty sure that they are not caused by a virus either!!!

I am not a doctor so I may be wrong. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!
 

shilala

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Originally posted by: Amused
While it is true that some people are more easily addicted to alcohol, it is STILL a choice to keep drinking, or dry out.

No matter how heavily one is addicted, the CHOICE is still there.
.

Absolutely 100% wrong. Alcoholics have no choice in the matter of drink on any level, at any time, in any situation. Never did, never will. That goes for before picking up a drink, after picking it up, or before they ever took their first drink.
 

Megatomic

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Originally posted by: Amused
I've kicked two of the strongest addictions known to man. Both were hell to go through, but in the end, it was ALL up to me. It was a simple, but agonizing CHOICE to STOP.

In the end, addiction is NOT a disease. It is a choice.
I've used highly addictive products before but never really became addicted to them. I gave up smokes and chew and never really felt pain over it. And I did use them regularly. My wife is pissed because she can't quit smoking and I made it look so easy...
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: shilala
Originally posted by: Amused
While it is true that some people are more easily addicted to alcohol, it is STILL a choice to keep drinking, or dry out.

No matter how heavily one is addicted, the CHOICE is still there.
.

Absolutely 100% wrong. Alcoholics have no choice in the matter of drink on any level, at any time, in any situation. Never did, never will. That goes for before picking up a drink, after picking it up, or before they ever took their first drink.

Nah. Can't accept that they were pre-programmed to become alcoholics since before they ever took a drink.

Once they ARE Alcoholics, yes.
 
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