With the release of Alder Lake less than a week away and the "Lakes" thread having turned into a nightmare to navigate I thought it might be a good time to start a discussion thread solely for Alder Lake.
That's 56 Golden Cove divided by 4 Tiles so it's really 14 cores per tile. 56 cores will not be able to compete with 96 and 128 cores from Zen4In HEDT there will be Sapphire Rapids-X with full fledged Golden Cove cores and 56 of them so they won't have a performance problem.
Pffft, as if Intel warrantied its K-series processors for overclocking anyways. Intel killed off its PTPP warranty so I'm not sure what separates a non-K series processor vs. a K-series processor from the standpoint of overclocking warranty. Therefore, as far as I'm concerned the above bolded statement is just as applicable for K-series processors as it is applicable for non-K series processors. This is just some BS PR statement to scare people from eeking out performance from parts they didn't intend for you to eek."Intel’s 12th Gen non-K processors were not designed for overclocking. Intel does not warranty the operation of processors beyond their specifications. Altering clock frequency or voltage may damage or reduce the useful life of the processor and other system components, and may reduce system stability and performance."
"Intel’s 12th Gen non-K processors were not designed for overclocking. Intel does not warranty the operation of processors beyond their specifications. Altering clock frequency or voltage may damage or reduce the useful life of the processor and other system components, and may reduce system stability and performance."
Does Intel even warranty the operation of K processor when overclocking?
To instill fear and doubt about overclocking their own products. A bit odd but it's Intel, they've been odd about overclocking for years now.Nope. So I'm not sure what they are trying to do with that statement.
Even enabling PBO voids your AMD warranty:To instill fear and doubt about overclocking their own products. A bit odd but it's Intel, they've been odd about overclocking for years now.
Yes, they're on the same page as Intel. No warranty for overclocking. And they probably had the same panic about people overclocking low end Athlons too.
They are closing in on 4 years of double the net income to make up/pay for that.Because they just dumped billions (probably $10 billion or more) on N3 capacity. Plus an unknown amount of cash on N6, N5, and possibly N4. And they're building out a fab in AZ and OH. They're begging the Biden administration more money so they can afford to pay off TSMC and still carry out node research/build fab capacity. Alder Lake's successes won't make up for all of that.
There is no difference that's why the statement from intel says "Intel does not warranty the operation of processors beyond their specifications." processors as in all of them.Yes, they're on the same page as Intel. No warranty for overclocking. And they probably had the same panic about people overclocking low end Athlons too.
It doesn't make Intel's statement any more logical. Don't overclock these, think of the warranty. Meanwhile the overclockable chips also have no warranty if overclocked. What's the difference?
"Intel’s 12th Gen non-K processors were not designed for overclocking. Intel does not warranty the operation of processors beyond their specifications. Altering clock frequency or voltage may damage or reduce the useful life of the processor and other system components, and may reduce system stability and performance."
They are closing in on 4 years of double the net income to make up/pay for that.
So, china buying habits are different than the rest of the world ? As in the cheap stuff ? OK.....The picture is different elsewhere...
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One store in China compared to one store in the EU proves nothing. However, China contributes to a quarter of Intel's revenue, and if Alder Lake is gaining traction in that market, then it indicates customer interest in Alder Lake. Besides, as long as you are shopping for B660 and DDR4, Alder Lake is more affordable at every price point.So, china buying habits are different than the rest of the world ? As in the cheap stuff ? OK.....
Unless you're already own an AMD motherboard, it makes no sense to buy Zen 3 for building a new system at the moment for most use cases.
What if it was just one store in Japan?One store in China compared to one store in the EU proves nothing. However, China contributes to a quarter of Intel's revenue, and if Alder Lake is gaining traction in that market, then it indicates customer interest in Alder Lake. Besides, as long as you are shopping for B660 and DDR4, Alder Lake is more affordable at every price point.
Then again, the 3600X and 3800X are still ahead of alder lakes on the amazon bestsellers, so it'll always be hard to get a full picture. I like the mindfactory list because it's sooooo well detailed and easy to track back for years now.What if it was just one store in Japan?
Well, for multi threading people, or someone like me that uses all 32 threads, AMD is still the way to go. NEW, I just got my 4th 5950x for $649 from a major online retailer. At 142 watt (or less) you can't beat them for perf/watt.One store in China compared to one store in the EU proves nothing. However, China contributes to a quarter of Intel's revenue, and if Alder Lake is gaining traction in that market, then it indicates customer interest in Alder Lake. Besides, as long as you are shopping for B660 and DDR4, Alder Lake is more affordable at every price point.
Unless you're already own an AMD motherboard, it makes no sense to buy Zen 3 for building a new system at the moment for most use cases.
Yes, they're on the same page as Intel. No warranty for overclocking. And they probably had the same panic about people overclocking low end Athlons too.
Those numbers dont make any sense.Why would anyone buy 5600x or 5800x those cpus have worst price/performance in whole market.Are people brain dead or something lol?CPU numbers are very expected, or R5 5600G is the best seller.
- good iGPU performance
- cheep+good motherboards
- iGPU gaming, and we are waiting for some better times
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Probably those are mostly from people already invested in AM4. Remember that Alder Lake non-K sales have only just begun. In the upcoming months I expect Alder Lake to dominate sales, especially the 12400/F.Those numbers dont make any sense.Why would anyone buy 5600x or 5800x those cpus have worst price/performance in whole market.Are people brain dead or something lol?
Those numbers dont make any sense.Why would anyone buy 5600x or 5800x those cpus have worst price/performance in whole market.Are people brain dead or something lol?