Alec Baldwin going off on his daughter's voicemail

[maziwanka]

i dont see the problem with this. at least he cares about his kid.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: maziwanka
i dont see the problem with this. at least he cares about his kid.

I guess he should have done what other parnets nowaday do. Honey you did not pick up, I love you. If you pick up I will buy you a pony and a new Corvette when you turn 16.

Yea he may have been a little over the top but at least he seems to care and does not just brush it off and try and buy his kids affection or let them rule them.

 

[tfinch2]

Pussification continues...

 

[JS80]

it's OK he's a liberal who supports green causes.

 

[Steve]

Let's talk about something important.

 

[grrl]

Originally posted by: sm8000
Let's talk about something important.

"Once again, I have made an ass of myself trying to get to a phone."

He is a millionaire, yet can't afford a cell phone!

 

[NFS4]

OMG. Damn, talk about tough love...

I dunno. I probably wouldn't start shouting expletives at an 11 year old, but I'd be pretty pissed too if I made every effort possible to talk to my kid and she blew me off constantly... especially if the bitch mother was somehow behind it.

 

[Ulfhednar]

I wish my dad was that much of a pussy when I was twelve years old, if I did something wrong I usually got beaten within an inch of my life.

 

[maziwanka]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: maziwanka
i dont see the problem with this. at least he cares about his kid.

I guess he should have done what other parnets nowaday do. Honey you did not pick up, I love you. If you pick up I will buy you a pony and a new Corvette when you turn 16.

Yea he may have been a little over the top but at least he seems to care and does not just brush it off and try and buy his kids affection or let them rule them.

exactly.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Too few information to tell. It is unsightly venting like that on a child, he doesn't even know her age by the looks of it. However, if he was was regularly trying to talk to his daughter and she wouldn't pick up and if he scheduled specific time to talk and she still didn't pick up, then I would perfectly understand him and wouldn't condemn him the slightest.

 

[ntdz]

LMFAO...he is pissed about what seems to be nothing!

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: ntdz
LMFAO...he is pissed about what seems to be nothing!

Not being able to get in contact with your child to talk to them when you are making every possible effort and they keep blowing you off?

Yeah, that's nothing. Phew, I guess I didn't see it your way before :roll:

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Too few information to tell. It is unsightly venting like that on a child, he doesn't even know her age by the looks of it. However, if he was was regularly trying to talk to his daughter and she wouldn't pick up and if he scheduled specific time to talk and she still didn't pick up, then I would perfectly understand him and wouldn't condemn him the slightest.

Holding a child to an adult level of responsibility is incorrect. Abusers often justify their actions by saying the child did not live up to a certain standard, when often that standard is beyond the level of the child.

It's especially worrying that he's appearing to hold a child accountable for the manipulations of the other parent. His apparent lack of empathy and knowledge of the child's development awful. That's not good parenting people, it's blatant ignorance and a sh!tstorm of negative consequences waiting to happen.

What will this child, placed squarely between her parents, manipulated by one, castigated by the other, end up as? A model citizen?

 

[cruzer]

He can't be bad, he takes her to PETA events...

 

[zerocool84]

He's the head of F.A.G. so don't piss him off.

 

[Stiffe]

You know even though he said some mean things to his own daughter.
It is his daughter. Who hasn't said mean or heard mean things from their parents.
Who are we to argue with how other people raise their kids. For all we know his kid is a spoiled girl and everytime its time for Alex to phone her she turns off her phone. I don't agree with the fact that he said some rude things but all honestly its common and a part of life. I've been called an asshole and a bastard from my parents but its not like I didn't derserve it. I've been an ass hole and a bastard sometimes. I believe its taking out of context and we can't say anything unless we know the whole truth about his relationship with his daughter....

just my 2 cents

 

[Chiller2]

Look I might have a different opinion if the the girl was 15-16yrs old but that was wrong for an 11yr old. Was she disrespectful for avoiding or missing his calls yes but he could have made his point without yelling screaming cursing and insulting her. My parents beat my tail for misbehaving more than I can count but they were NEVER disrespectful of me

 

[moshquerade]

Alright, that was awful, and he's speaking to a 11-12 y/o like that?!?!?! No wonder she has her phone off.
I always thought he was jackass, but this really confirms his jackassness. It must has sucked even more for Kim Basinger while she was married to him.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: Ktulu
Meh, rich kid, I'm sure she deserves it.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Ktulu
Meh, rich kid, I'm sure she deserves it.

She most likely deserves a tongue lashing, but the way he said it was verbal abuse.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: MrsBugi

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Verbal abuse and intimidation. Not an appropriate way to communicate with your child, 11 years old or not. There are much better, more effective ways to talk to your kids. I cofacilitate a parenting class and it's amazing what some parents do/say since their parents did it to them... hard cycle to break.

I AGREE WITH YOU, but it is a parenting technique that is VERY common and not "abuse". If my neighbor went off on his kid like that I'd think "dude needs to chill." But we all get frustrated and parents need to set guidelines. This is a non-story - if he said "I'm going to rip your head off" sure, I agree it's newsworthy. Bad Alec! But, instead, he expressed his frustration and spoke harshly, but I've seen parents say and do much worse.

I'm not saying he should win father of the year but:
A) Celeb kids usually grow up with no discipline, like Paris Hilton. Kudos to him for being a real father
B) He's dealing with his kid in a rough but not-abusive way.
C) He shouldn't have mentioned her mother negatively but, again, this is human and parents do this
D) He doesn't seem to be a bad person, just a tough cookie

I think his daughter may in fact grow up to be a responsible, decent person and not some spoiled rich kid. That's a good thing in my book.

I respectfully disagree with your first sentence - like it or not, legally, it does constitute abuse. As a mandated reporter, if one of my clients reports that, I am legally obligated to file a child abuse report. If I don't, I would be in serious legal trouble since I am required by law to make a report.

I agree that celeb kids can grow up as brats, but calling your daughter a "thoughtless little pig," etc. is not "being a good father."

More info about child abuse.

"Emotional Abuse?California Penal Code Section 11166

* Emotional abuse is defined as when a person causes or permits a child to suffer unjustifiable or significant mental suffering.

Emotional Abuse?Federal Guidelines

* Acts or omissions by parents or caretakers that have caused, or could cause, serious behavioral, cognitive, emotional or mental disorders.
* Some acts, do not leave evident harm to the child but warrant reporting, such as extreme or bizarre forms of punishment, such as locking a child in a closet.
* Emotional abuse is almost always present when other forms of abuse are identified

Emotional Abuse

* Belittling
* Blaming
* Sarcasm
* Rejection
* Corruption
* Screaming
* Humiliation
* Threatening
* Name calling
* Unpredictable responses
* Child exposed to domestic violence
* Isolation of the child from social contacts
* Deliberate withholding of love and affection
* Child placed in restraints, caged or severe confinement

Indicators of Emotional Abuse in the Child

* Withdrawn, seeks isolation or is unresponsive
* Overly rigid or passive
* Repetitive, rhythmic movements
* Sleep, eating or speech disorders
* Learning problems
* Destructive to self or others
* Poor self-image and esteem - may unwittingly say ?I?m bad?my daddy tells me so.?
* Hungers for attention and affection
* Failure to Thrive Syndrome

Indicators of Emotional Abuse in the Parent

* Has unrealistic expectations of the child - developmentally, educationally or emotionally
* Enforces unusual penalties or vaguely sinister punishment - it is one thing to place a child in time-out in their room for five minutes, and another to place a child in time-out in a locked closet for five minutes
* Uses child to satisfy their own ego needs
* Describes the child as bad, different, worthless or evil
* Refers to the child as ?It?
* Uses child as a battleground for problems"

This is pathetic. Sarcasm is a emotional abuse. My mom would be serving consecutive life sentences... Teen age kids are asswholes. I wish I wasn't as horrible as I was to my parents when I was teen, I realize it was just being ridiculous, but it is part of being a rebellious teen. You do need your parents to call you a dumbbass every once in a while.

 

[rudder]

Didn't he say he would leave the country if Bush became president? Why is he still here.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: rudder
Didn't he say he would leave the country if Bush became president? Why is he still here.

Bingo.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Ktulu
Meh, rich kid, I'm sure she deserves it.

She most likely deserves a tongue lashing, but the way he said it was verbal abuse.

You are lieing if you say your parents didn't flip out on you at least once or twice (more likely a couple dozen) times when you were this age all the way until you were way out of high school. Considering kids like Drew Barrymore who were into a heavy coke habit when she was 8 it is good to see a rich parent actually caring about what/where his daughter is and acting considerably upset that she isn't answering him. I very much doubt this nation needs another Paris Hilton and I doubt Baldwin wants it to be his spoiled brat.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Ktulu
Meh, rich kid, I'm sure she deserves it.

She most likely deserves a tongue lashing, but the way he said it was verbal abuse.

You are lieing if you say your parents didn't flip out on you at least once or twice (more likely a couple dozen) times when you were this age all the way until you were way out of high school. Considering kids like Drew Barrymore who were into a heavy coke habit when she was 8 it is good to see a rich parent actually caring about what/where his daughter is and acting considerably upset that she isn't answering him. I very much doubt this nation needs another Paris Hilton and I doubt Baldwin wants it to be his spoiled brat.

Nope. My parents NEVER spoke to me that way. Sure, they got pissed at me but they didn't swear, call me a "thoughtless little pig" or go to the extreme Baldwin did. He truly sounds flippin nuts.

Again, I am not saying he didn't have the right to be upset. I am criticizing the words he used. Plus he acts like a spoiled baby himself.