Aledo's 91-0 win earns bullying complaint from Western Hills parent

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atotnine

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I remember in middle school there was a team that absolutely smoked us in basketball. It was awful. I'll bet we lost something like 60-10 they were just that much better than us and we knew it. We used the first game as motivation to get better so that if by the end of the season we played them again it would be much better.

We ended up playing that team two more times in tournaments that year and each time the games were more competitive. The last game we were actually winning at half but ended up losing by 6. That squad ended up going something like 41-0 and no other team ever led them at half or finished within 10 points of them.

So while I have a sports story from my youth of a moral victory (to me), these kids get to grow up and reflect upon how they were bullied by a team that was better than them.

Sports used to be about bettering yourself through competition, knowing that there is always something to learn from every win and every loss. What happened?

Ha we had the same thing happen. I knew we were in trouble when I was the tallest on my team but there were bench players on the other team taller than me. The opposing coach was dbag and had them press us the entire game. It was nasty 70-6 or some bullshit lol.
 

lupi

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Hey look at us. Our kids really suck at football and want to make sure everyone in the country much les the district needs to know about it!.


The team only ran 6 plays to their starting QB, he happened to get 4 TDs on those 6....with a un to TD ratio like that exactly what are you supposed to do.
 

PowerYoga

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They should participate in the special olympics if they want every one to be a winner. The "father" needs to get the sand out of his vagina.
 

KeithTalent

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I don't think bullying is the appropriate word here...

KT
 

ch33zw1z

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I wouldn't file a complaint. Shit happens. Losing can be an excellent learning experience.
 

purbeast0

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the pussification of america continues.

"bullying" has now officially taken over the word "cloud" as my most hated buzzword. people are using it for EVERYTHING now.

when you look at the stats of the game, the coach did everything he could to not run the score up for the most part. their star running back had FIVE carries the whole game, scored on 3 of them. their star WR had ONE catch and scored on it. they had 33 total offensive plays THE ENTIRE GAME. their worst players were in the game the majority of the game.

wtf does this cry baby bitch mom want the 3rd stringers to do? they hardly get any time on the field, and when they do, she wants them to take a knee? she needs to take her kid out of competitive sports (or anything competitive) since she obviously can't handle it, and has probably scarred her kid for life now.
 

zinfamous

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Really depends on how the players were acting. If they were taunting the lesser team while running the score up then I have a problem with it. If they were just playing good football and doing it in a professional manner and happen to put up 91 points then that's fine.

this.

It would be nice to know about the team and why the hell they are so dominant in their division...I mean scoring an average of 70+ points is crazy...how does a team roll with that in what sounds like a smaller division?

Could be one of those "prep" schools that is nothing more than a football team with a few ancillary classes attached to the program. They can pull in talent from any part of the state, often players living with coaches or other players on the team, as a recruiting farm for big college teams.

Like Bosco whatsitface in New York or New Jersey.
 

angminas

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Really depends on how the players were acting. If they were taunting the lesser team while running the score up then I have a problem with it. If they were just playing good football and doing it in a professional manner and happen to put up 91 points then that's fine.

Yup. Though I will add, I hope they weren't being too aggressive with the hits, blocks, and tackles after it became obvious that it was no contest. Certainly if there is a problem here it's off the field.
 

MrPickins

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The team needs to be upped into better competition. /thread

Yep. From what I can tell, they're in the 4A division (divisions are determined by student population).

Playing like this, they should be moved to 5A.
 

StrangerGuy

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I don't even know where to begin. Whining about losing in a sport that your child is hardly good at when there are waaaaaay better uses for his time?
 

MrDudeMan

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A lot of you are swimming in the deep end on this. It's really not that ridiculous to file the complaint with the hopes of uncovering any potential wrongdoing. We have systems in place to prevent incorrect actions. If nothing wrong has been done, then nothing will happen. There's no problem with that.

Also, you don't know how the father feels about it or what he told his kid. Maybe the kid totally understands and wasn't upset about the loss. Maybe the father wasn't either, but he still wanted to go through the formal process. You don't have to like it, but it's there for a purpose.

I wouldn't complain about it personally, but there's no reason to vilify the father. There is a concept of unfair and it extends into adulthood. Yeah, kids need to learn how to exist peacefully on both sides of a competition, but there's also something to be said for teaching them to respect the outcome while also understanding that sometimes other people are assholes and there's a proper way to handle that. The fact is that we know next to nothing about the details of this situation other than some fantastical headlines and statements in a news article. The other coach admitting that the team didn't bully them is a strong indication that they didn't, but it's not conclusive.
 

angminas

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Also, you don't know how the father feels about it or what he told his kid. Maybe the kid totally understands and wasn't upset about the loss. Maybe the father wasn't either, but he still wanted to go through the formal process. You don't have to like it, but it's there for a purpose.

"We all witnessed bullying first hand, it is not a pretty sight," he wrote.
 

MrDudeMan

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"We all witnessed bullying first hand, it is not a pretty sight," he wrote.

Thanks for the quote from the article I read as well. Also, good job completely misunderstanding my post unless you somehow extracted far, far more information out of a single sentence. Please tell me how you know he's wrong? You also still don't know his feelings on the issue. You know he thought he saw bullying, but that's it. No where does it mention that he's teaching his kid to take the easy way out or that he's a raving lunatic who cries foul at every opportunity to do so.
 

waggy

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A lot of you are swimming in the deep end on this. It's really not that ridiculous to file the complaint with the hopes of uncovering any potential wrongdoing. We have systems in place to prevent incorrect actions. If nothing wrong has been done, then nothing will happen. There's no problem with that.

Also, you don't know how the father feels about it or what he told his kid. Maybe the kid totally understands and wasn't upset about the loss. Maybe the father wasn't either, but he still wanted to go through the formal process. You don't have to like it, but it's there for a purpose.

then the father is a fucking wise and beautiful woman and should stop going to his kids games.
 

child of wonder

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I remember in middle school there was a team that absolutely smoked us in basketball. It was awful. I'll bet we lost something like 60-10 they were just that much better than us and we knew it. We used the first game as motivation to get better so that if by the end of the season we played them again it would be much better.

We ended up playing that team two more times in tournaments that year and each time the games were more competitive. The last game we were actually winning at half but ended up losing by 6. That squad ended up going something like 41-0 and no other team ever led them at half or finished within 10 points of them.

So while I have a sports story from my youth of a moral victory (to me), these kids get to grow up and reflect upon how they were bullied by a team that was better than them.

Sports used to be about bettering yourself through competition, knowing that there is always something to learn from every win and every loss. What happened?

When I played city league basketball a few years ago we had a team that should have been in the top division but purposefully played in a lower division so they could steamroll everyone for an easy road to a trophy.

We played them as hard as we could but at halftime we were down something like 38-16. Then the assholes started showboating like having their center shoot 3s, going for crazy alley-oops, and so on. So we started fouling them hard and knocking them on their asses. I've never heard grown men whine and cry so much to the officials. We stood up for ourselves, didn't let them showboat on us anymore, and held our heads high after the game despite losing by 20+. It felt great.
 

MrDudeMan

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then the father is a fucking wise and beautiful woman and should stop going to his kids games.

Do you know for sure that the winning team isn't doing anything wrong? If you do, then I stand corrected. If not, calm the fuck down and try to apply some logic. There's absolutely nothing wrong with asking a question, which is essentially what the complaint really is - a formal question. If they did nothing wrong, then nothing will happen. I'm not advocating for the pussification of America, but you guys seem to forget when it comes to kids and schools that people are assholes at all ages. I have no problem with asking the question, but I do have a problem if a reprimand is issued when the team did nothing wrong. That would be pussification, but we aren't there yet. Get your fucking panties out of a twist.
 

angminas

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Thanks for the quote from the article I read as well. Also, good job completely misunderstanding my post unless you somehow extracted far, far more information out of a single sentence. Please tell me how you know he's wrong? You also still don't know his feelings on the issue. You know he thought he saw bullying, but that's it. No where does it mention that he's teaching his kid to take the easy way out or that he's a raving lunatic who cries foul at every opportunity to do so.

lolwut

you might be extracting too much meaning from a single sentence
 

MrDudeMan

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When I played city league basketball a few years ago we had a team that should have been in the top division but purposefully played in a lower division so they could steamroll everyone for an easy road to a trophy.

We played them as hard as we could but at halftime we were down something like 38-16. Then the assholes started showboating like having their center shoot 3s, going for crazy alley-oops, and so on. So we started fouling them hard and knocking them on their asses. I've never heard grown men whine and cry so much to the officials. We stood up for ourselves, didn't let them showboat on us anymore, and held our heads high after the game despite losing by 20+. It felt great.

This is exactly the situation that calls for a formal complaint process. Yeah, you guys handled it and I think that's what should have happened, but they also should have been told to cut that shit out from the league. There's no place for that in sports or adult life. People who are douchebags typically receive a specific type of treatment for their doucehbaggery. Jail time, a fine, becoming a social outcast, etc. - you reap what you sow. It's only a matter of time before someone decides to stand up for what's right.
 

MrDudeMan

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lolwut

you might be extracting too much meaning from a single sentence

I don't really know how to argue with this because it's so stupid. My entire point is that neither of us can extract much of anything from that sentence or really the entire article because it lacks specific details. If you don't understand that, then we should just stop communicating.
 

unokitty

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... every American is fully equal, meaning that no one is smarter, better-looking, stronger, or faster than anyone else. The Handicapper General and a team of agents ensure that the laws of equality are enforced. The government forces citizens to wear "handicaps" (a mask if they are too handsome or beautiful, earphones with deafening radio signals to make intelligent people unable to concentrate and form thoughts, and heavy weights to slow down those who are too strong or fast).
Won't anybody notify the Handicapper General?

Uno
 
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waggy

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Do you know for sure that the winning team isn't doing anything wrong? If you do, then I stand corrected. If not, calm the fuck down and try to apply some logic. There's absolutely nothing wrong with asking a question, which is essentially what the complaint really is - a formal question. If they did nothing wrong, then nothing will happen. I'm not advocating for the pussification of America, but you guys seem to forget when it comes to kids and schools that people are assholes at all ages. I have no problem with asking the question, but I do have a problem if a reprimand is issued when the team did nothing wrong. That would be pussification, but we aren't there yet. Get your fucking panties out of a twist.

good god. they took out the 1st and 2nd string (is string by end of first 2nd half). they let the clock run. what the fuck else do you want them to do? There is NO mercy rule.

To be honest i would be madder at having them give my kids a mercy TD or such. because the kids learn NOTHING from that.

EVERYONE (both sides) are saying the kids did not over celebrate the fact of td. they did not do anything wrong.


this is fucking idiotic. the father is but hurt that they lost so bad.


ohh http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/22/aledo-football-bullying-91-0-shutout-win_n_4143719.html

Western Hills head coach John Naylor told NBC DFW that he disagrees with the parent's bullying complaint.



shrug. don't know what else anyone would need. both sides say there was no bullying.
 
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Exterous

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You can't do that, you need to play the full minutes for it to count.

Running clock? Our area had a rule where if you were up by enough points at the half the second half would have a running clock with the only stop being the quarter change.

Texas high school football. Really not unusual. You have some football powerhouses out here. Not certain how they accumulate all the talent. I'm sure it involves questionable transfers and probably giving the kids a football as soon as they can walk to "follow in Jimmy's football glory days" steps.

According to the article it was from a re-alignment of the districts for this year and that the Superintendent wants to change leagues
 
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