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Teizo

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Sipping on my coffee this morning and while casually "window shopping" I noticed that over on Newegg and one or two other places prices on "entry level" and "mid-range" cards such as Gtx 750, Gtx 750 Ti, and Gtx 950 are suddenly waaaaaaay up. As in literally "overnight".

Gtx 750 going for $160ish. Gtx 750 Ti going for $190ish, Gtx 950 going for $220ish Prices literally up ~50% overnight with no warning

I am assuming it is some re-seller/scalper trying to "take advantage" of or "cash in" on the upcoming Christmas weekend.

Anyways, be careful with any last minute holiday shopping, because the price-hikers seem to be out in full force all of a sudden. Google is your friend for avoiding these guys.

/PSA
Go down to the bottom left of the search tab and make sure you select Seller = Newegg.
 

Teizo

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^ 100% agree with this.

I hate hate HATE price hiking re-sellers/scalpers/scammers!!!! :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

The prices are fine. Go down to the bottom of the search tab and select Seller = Newegg.

Newegg is a mediary for other sellers. Sometimes in general browsing it doesn't distinguish them.
 

MagickMan

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Happens every year, and if you wait this close to Xmas to buy something? Well, it's your fault.
 

RussianSensation

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Ok it's been fixed, now my card is $340 AR (which is still robbery for any 970).

Mine is not fixed. When I type Newegg.com, and it brings me to the site even when I select USD from the top menus, all the prices shown are Canadian. Once I do any search for any product, always redirects to Newegg.ca.

Reflecting on current GPU prices, ya they are pretty overpriced in the grand scheme of things. GTX970 came out September 2014 while R9 390 (aka R9 390 refresh) traces its roots to November 2013. OUCH.

Amazon US:

Asus Strix 970 = $325
MSI Gaming 970 = $330
Gigabyte 970 G1 = $350

How can a graphics card that's 15 months old have not dropped anything as of December 2015? This shouldn't happen I don't recall anything like this in a long time. Just goes to show how extended 28nm node has hurt the GPU industry. R9 290 was $399 more than 2 years ago. :thumbsdown:

Brutal. Hopefully 16nm surprises with pleasant increases in both performance and price/performance.

Happens every year, and if you wait this close to Xmas to buy something? Well, it's your fault.

True, seems the best time to buy a lot of electronics such as graphics cards, is in November, 2-3 weeks leading up to Black Friday and maybe on the weekend of BF/Cyber Monday. After that the great deals just dried up and now prices of R9 390/970 are back to nearly MSRP, while 980/Fury are pushing $450-500. This is ridiculous considering GPUs are supposed to lose their value over time since they become 'outdated' on the technology life-cycle curve. This is exactly why we start to see price crashes on old tech the minute new cards come out instead of gradual declines in prices.
 
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poofyhairguy

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How can a graphics card that's 15 months old have not dropped anything as of December 2015? This shouldn't happen I don't recall anything like this in a long time. Just goes to show how extended 28nm node has hurt the GPU industry. R9 290 was $399 more than 2 years ago. :thumbsdown:

The PC industry has always been cyclical. GPU prices go up before Christmas. Laptop prices go up before back to school. They know how to make their money when they can, when the non nerds are buying.

That is why I get so pissed at people that say "there is always something better around the corner, don't wait to buy." That is so dumb. There are good and bad times to buy things. My GPU was $40 cheaper in the summer. A tv is going to be cheaper around the SuperBowl (aka right around CES) than in the summer. You are best off buying an Apple product the first week it launches (or on black friday) to get maximum value. I could go on but I seriously get angry when I see people advocate dumb consumerism by saying it's always a good time to buy stuff.

I feel like some people just don't want to defend how they are too lazy to get maximum value from their purchases so that is the excuse.
 
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master_shake_

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welcome to canada guys!!!!

where prices are ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh and never yay!!!!

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

/sadface
 

RussianSensation

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The PC industry has always been cyclical. GPU prices go up before Christmas. Laptop prices go up before back to school. They know how to make their money when they can, when the non nerds are buying.

That is why I get so pissed at people that say "there is always something better around the corner, don't wait to buy." That is so dumb. There are good and bad times to buy things. My GPU was $40 cheaper in the summer. A tv is going to be cheaper around the SuperBowl (aka right around CES) than in the summer. You are best off buying an Apple product the first week it launches (or on black friday) to get maximum value. I could go on but I seriously get angry when I see people advocate dumb consumerism by saying it's always a good time to buy stuff. By the time we hit March-April 2016, it'll be even harder to recommend the higher end 980/Fury/FuryX/980Ti cards.

I feel like some people just don't want to defend how they are too lazy to get maximum value from their purchases so that is the excuse.

Ya, I think there are definitely good/great, just OK and bad times to buy certain cars, houses, electronics, appliances, clothes, sporting equipment, etc. That's why if you recall when Maxwell launched, I was recommending 970 or 970 SLI right off the bat. Once time passes, I find it harder and harder to recommend older tech products if their prices remain stagnant.

Recall GTX580 that was $500 when it came out November 2010 and more or less stayed around $440-450 all the way until January 2012. By Sept 2012, GTX660/7870 offered ~ 580 level of performance for just $250-260. Today 7870 is flat out faster than 580 which means it took less than 2 years to get $500 580 level of performance in a $250 card. With 780Ti -> 970 it happened in just 10 months!

That means there is a big difference buying a GTX580 for $450 around December 2011 vs. November 2010. This is just an example that can be used for AMD cards as well.

Canadians prices are rip-off.

You guys get affordable university education in Quebec!
 
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throwa

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Ya, I think there are definitely good/great, just OK and bad times to buy certain cars, houses, electronics, appliances, clothes, sporting equipment, etc. That's why if you recall when Maxwell launched, I was recommending 970 or 970 SLI right off the bat. Once time passes, I find it harder and harder to recommend older tech products if their prices remain stagnant.

Recall GTX580 that was $500 when it came out November 2010 and more or less stayed around $440-450 all the way until January 2012. By Sept 2012, GTX660/7870 offered ~ 580 level of performance for just $250-260. Today 7870 is flat out faster than 580 which means it took less than 2 years to get $500 580 level of performance in a $250 card. With 780Ti -> 970 it happened in just 10 months!

That means there is a big difference buying a GTX580 for $450 around December 2011 vs. November 2010. This is just an example that can be used for AMD cards as well.



You guys get affordable university education in Quebec!

The highlighted part is why I don't understand some of the so-called "hardcore" gamers who drop $600-$1000 or more on a GPU. All that extra money just for 10-20 extra frames per second?? Seems like a big waste of money. I am assuming one of the main reasons these guys go out a buy these "mega" GPU's is for bragging rights or showing off. I guess the implied message is "check out my $600 GPU, yeah that's right I'm rich brah". Some of these "mega" GPUs cost more than a month's rent.

In 2012 I built a 2500k rig with the newly released (at the time) HD 7850. That rig is with a new owner now (sold it), but as far as I know it still plays all the customer's games just fine. Yes, including newer games like GTA V and Fallout. He tells me he just turns down the settings slightly, and the new eye-candy games play fine.

These GPUs seem to work a lot like the auto/car market. For example a "new" car will be half it's value within 2-3 years, similar to how a "mega" GPU is always out-performed by a future "mid range" card half it's original price.

Like in the car industry, people who buy the "biggest most expensive" model are $uckers. The real value lies "in the middle".
 
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KaRLiToS

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You guys get affordable university education in Quebec!

Of course but this has nothing to do with GPU prices, lol.

Edit: Oh I see you are from Toronto, I never knew you were from there RS. Never noticed in your avatar.
 
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Shmee

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I always thought russiansensation was Russian
 

thilanliyan

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You guys get affordable university education in Quebec!

Is it a lot cheaper in Quebec? I'm still paying off my loan I used at UofT lol...I even went to school in Sydney, Australia for a semester and the local students paid WAAAYYY less than what I paid in Toronto.
 

Piroko

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The highlighted part is why I don't understand some of the so-called "hardcore" gamers who drop $600-$1000 or more on a GPU. All that extra money just for 10-20 extra frames per second?? Seems like a big waste of money.
A 100$ discrete GPU is as much of a luxury item as a 600$ discrete GPU.
 

96Firebird

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Bought my 970 on launch day over a year ago for $320AR, paid $40 to step it up to a FTW model, and now that card is still being sold for $335AR... $25 hit on a tech item after more than a year, not bad...
 

KaRLiToS

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throwa, do you need to justify your purchases more? By the way I don't agree with you. You sound like a jealous person.

Some people buy the most expensive cars because they can and they want, of course they might only need a bicyle, but if they can afford a Ferrarri, why not get it... I would if I had the money. And you would too, don't lie to yourself.
 

Techhog

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Bought my 970 on launch day over a year ago for $320AR, paid $40 to step it up to a FTW model, and now that card is still being sold for $335AR... $25 hit on a tech item after more than a year, not bad...

I love how you consider prices not changing to be a good thing outside of planning to sell it.
 

KaRLiToS

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Call me selfish, but it seems like a good thing for me! :thumbsup:

But when you'll want to buy a GTX 1070. You'll have to sell your GTX 970 200$ and will have to pay 475$ for a GTX 1070... while the GTX 1080ti will be 900$ and the GTX Titan XX will be 1350$. Price gouging will never make you win.
 

96Firebird

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But when you'll want to buy a GTX 1070. You'll have to sell your GTX 970 200$ and will have to pay 475$ for a GTX 1070... while the GTX 1080ti will be 900$ and the GTX Titan XX will be 1350$. Price gouging will never make you win.

I don't pretend to know future prices, and don't feel price gouging happened with my 970!

You guys seem unhappy that I feel I'm in a good position with respect to my computer components, that is telling.
 

throwa

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I'm just now waking up, sipping my coffee, etc. Went over to Newegg first thing when my computer fired up and got to desktop.

It appears this Newegg website error has been resolved, I am able to browse the categories and the parts show up for their regular/non marked-up price. For a while I thought hackers or cyber-thieves were "up to no good", but perhaps it was just a simple website error afterall.

Thank goodness
 
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