All 8800GT models available at EVGA store including SSC and KO!!!

[deerhunter716]

True but I honestly have never seen a real difference at all using AA and AF to be honest on my 27" monitor.

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: Mana
Are there any reviews out there that compare the stock GT at 600 MHz to the ones that are overclocked, as well as the GTX, etc.? I'm just wondering what kind of performance increases are seen between the 600 MHz version and the 700 MHz version of the 8800 GT.

I remember reading somewhere that the SSC beats the GTX in many benchies.

Don't quote me on that though because I can't seem to find the source of that info.

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: deerhunter716
True but I honestly have never seen a real difference at all using AA and AF to be honest on my 27" monitor.

I've always heard that the higher your resolution, the less you need AA and AF. It makes a big difference to 1680x1050 and anything below that though.

 

[SickBeast]

I thought the MSRP of the 8800GTs was $200...

 

[betasub]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
I thought the MSRP of the 8800GTs was $200...

Yah, for an absolutely bare card, stock cooler, and 256MB vRAM, maybe...

 

[Capt Caveman]

With my X1900XTX dying this weekend, I need to order one this morning. I was planning on getting the SSC but don't want to deal with a RMA if JohnnyGuru is correct. I hate being indecisive.

 

[yacoub]

Originally posted by: betasub

Originally posted by: SickBeast
I thought the MSRP of the 8800GTs was $200...

Yah, for an absolutely bare card, stock cooler, and 256MB vRAM, maybe...

Actually for the reference design 512MB model. 256MB models haven't even been announced yet. This is why we've already seen reference models as low as $219 when they first launched (before they sold out and prices were jacked up).

 

[taltamir]

200$ is the nvidia msrp for the 512MB 8800GT... up to 250$ for overclocked one... what you are seeing now is price gouging... the 256MB version is supposed to be closer to 150$ and compete with AMDs new card... all nvidia said about it so far is "less the 200$" but AMD is slating it to be "40$ less then then nvidia's card"

Its all really back and forthes that wouldn't be adhered to anyways... what really matters is how AMD stacks up in a week when their new card comes up... this should determine if the GT will drop the 200$ range to compete with AMD, or stay at the 300$ range cause AMD will be outmatched.

 

[aka1nas]

The $200 models will the be 6-layer price reduced board. the only manufacturers making those will be the Chinese no-namers. Expect brand-name stock models to come in somewhere around $225-$250 with overclocked models being a bit more. The 256MB version will be out later and be under $200 for the nicer models.

 

[taltamir]

I just noticed something... those eVGA msrps are higher then they were before... even the manufacturer's are now price gouging.... you now the manufacturer price gouges the stores who further price gouge the consumers... pass!

When I bought my car in 2006 the honda civic just came out (it was when gas hit the highest price yet in the US)... it was MSRP at 16000$, but immidiately got price gouged like crazy.. one place promised me 18k for it and when I got there they told me it was a mistake... I was finally in a place where it was going for 19.5K and I realised I could get the accord for 500$ more and have so much more car for my money... I paid 20k for a brand new 06 accord back then... including license and registration and everything (so they were actually giving me a discount compared to msrp, because noone wanted them at the time)... when the accord was msrp 20k and the civic 16k...

The whole point of the story is, if something is price gouged that look for alternatives... 200$ 8800GT is a very sweet deal... price gouged 8800GT at 300$ is a ripoff, especially when AMD should come out with a card almost as fast for 150$ (or a 256MB GT from nvidia, or a new design GTS based on G92) ... we shall see...

 

[P229SAS]

With even the base model GT they have brought us near GTX performance for circa $250 depending on where you look. In the coming weeks the prices will go down even further bringing high performance to the masses. In a way, you could further argue that they forced AMD to develop an ultra low cost yet (hopefully) capable solution. Yet in spite of this, we still criticize them for it not being better. We then turn around and scrounge up all hope and prayer for AMDs next card despite signs to the contrary. Funny how that works.

Temporarily high prices don't bother me that much, supply and demand sucks at times. What does bother me is programming designed to give the illusion that you must have DX10 and Windows Vista now rather than later.

 

[thejez]

i dunno about this whole price gouging thing... I mean the GTS 640's were selling for 350+ before this thing came out... even at $300 you getting a better card for less... sure NVidia has a suggested retail price... but remember...it's suggested... i want a $200 GT as much as anyone but I think these prices are going to stay high until demand cools off.. and that may be longer than ppl think given the fact that they are still the best bang for the buck even @ $300....

Lets hope the next few weeks bring some new cards to the market that lower the demand on the GT's... but if the GTS turns out the be amazing guess whats going to happen there...

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Well, my X1900XTX just died. Looks like a SSC is in my near future.

lucky bastard... I'm trying to convince myself to upgrade now instead of waiting for the high end to come out.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: nullpointerus

Originally posted by: yacoub

And we haven't even seen an announcement for the 256MB models, although I don't know why gamers would care much for them seeing as how 512MB is pretty much required for any remotely modern FPS game's High settings.

Actually, many gamers -- maybe you meant gaming enthusiasts? -- buy low/mid-range cards. (Hey, there are people on gaming forums who regularly advise CF'ing X1650's!) These people have lower standards: they may not care about running the native res. of their LCDs or using AA/AF.

Even so, the 8800GT 256MB model would be very attractive if it dropped down into the $100-150 range.

Now that the 8800GT is here, what we need is stock and a price war. Although I purchased an 8800GT (not here yet!), I hope that the next AMD card is a decent competitor. There is always room for another upgrade...

yes, and I would be interested in a QX6850 for $100-$150, too, but that doesn't mean that it will ever get that cheap.

 

[nullpointerus]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995

Originally posted by: nullpointerus

Originally posted by: yacoub

And we haven't even seen an announcement for the 256MB models, although I don't know why gamers would care much for them seeing as how 512MB is pretty much required for any remotely modern FPS game's High settings.

Actually, many gamers -- maybe you meant gaming enthusiasts? -- buy low/mid-range cards. (Hey, there are people on gaming forums who regularly advise CF'ing X1650's!) These people have lower standards: they may not care about running the native res. of their LCDs or using AA/AF.

Even so, the 8800GT 256MB model would be very attractive if it dropped down into the $100-150 range.

Now that the 8800GT is here, what we need is stock and a price war. Although I purchased an 8800GT (not here yet!), I hope that the next AMD card is a decent competitor. There is always room for another upgrade...

yes, and I would be interested in a QX6850 for $100-$150, too, but that doesn't mean that it will ever get that cheap.

Obviously, but at what point did I claim it as a certainty?

yacoub said he could not imagine why gamers would care for the 8800GT, and I merely provided a possible scenario...not sure why you need to be sarcastic toward me.

 

[ayabe]

I find that 2xAA is acceptable for me at 1920x1200 and on some games I don't run any at all.

Sorry to burst your bubble pcslookout but even a 1GB card either RV670 or G92 flavor still isn't going to run Crysis with very high settings at any resolution with or without AA. So holding out for 1GB is meh if that's your only reason.

 

[yacoub]

Originally posted by: aka1nas
The $200 models will the be 6-layer price reduced board. the only manufacturers making those will be the Chinese no-namers. Expect brand-name stock models to come in somewhere around $225-$250 with overclocked models being a bit more.

The PNY reference was $219 as was the XFX reference, and the eVGA was $229. eVGA's other models - SC, KO, and SSC - started out in $10 increments up from there.

 

[yacoub]

Originally posted by: nullpointerus

Originally posted by: bryanW1995

Originally posted by: nullpointerus

Originally posted by: yacoub

And we haven't even seen an announcement for the 256MB models, although I don't know why gamers would care much for them seeing as how 512MB is pretty much required for any remotely modern FPS game's High settings.

Actually, many gamers -- maybe you meant gaming enthusiasts? -- buy low/mid-range cards. (Hey, there are people on gaming forums who regularly advise CF'ing X1650's!) These people have lower standards: they may not care about running the native res. of their LCDs or using AA/AF.

Even so, the 8800GT 256MB model would be very attractive if it dropped down into the $100-150 range.

Now that the 8800GT is here, what we need is stock and a price war. Although I purchased an 8800GT (not here yet!), I hope that the next AMD card is a decent competitor. There is always room for another upgrade...

yes, and I would be interested in a QX6850 for $100-$150, too, but that doesn't mean that it will ever get that cheap.

Obviously, but at what point did I claim it as a certainty?

yacoub said he could not imagine why gamers would care for the 8800GT, and I merely provided a possible scenario...not sure why you need to be sarcastic toward me.

Yeah your point is valid null, I didn't consider folks who played older games in my statement. I was thinking more of folks who play Crysis, CoD4, Gears of War, etc. They're not going to be interested in the 256MB model unless they're on a 1024x768 display because anything bigger really needs more VRAM.