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Zap

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Originally posted by: Avalon
I love their prices on deals such as these...but they usually take 4-5 business days to ship out my products, and always charge me before they ship. They also sent me a mobo/cpu combo that was guaranteed pre-tested working with the latest BIOS...it had an old BIOS that didn't even support the chip that was in it when I received it. I had to flash it myself to get my system working.

I've had mixed results. Some orders shipped out same day, but yeah, some orders took a WHOLE WEEK to ship out. I too got a mobo/CPU combo with an old BIOS contrary to what they promise.

Originally posted by: DidlySquat
It's practically guaranteed that your CCBBE will do at least 2800 MHz. Just make sure you have a good motherboard (e.g. DFI) and memory. It WILL do 2700 on stock 1.35V voltage (no need to increase CPU voltage).

"Practically" guaranteed? If you are going to say that, are you willing to be the one doing the guaranteeing?

A better choice of words are something to the effect of, "It is not unknown for a CCBBE to do 2800MHz." Saying that it is practically guaranteed will just cause disappointment in those who can't hit that speed, or can't hit 2700MHz at stock voltage. I have two Opteron 144 chips with the same code and one is fine, but the other one is horrid in comparison. You gonna "guarantee" it and buy it off me? :evil: Yes, the "horrid" chip will overclock, but nowhere near your guarantee, and I have an Ultra-D board and various RAM modules which can take the "good" chip up there.

Originally posted by: morkus64
Newegg is very very easy to cancel orders... but I wouldn't worry about Monarch charging first... They're very good, not one of the companies you need to worry about.

I believe most internet retailers charge first and ship later, just that the "ship later" for most of them is next day or two so you don't notice that they charged a whole week before they shipped.

BTW, it is my belief that it is very difficult to cancel orders at Newegg. Reason? Well, by the time you change your mind and go to cancel the order, it's already shipped.
 

Fallengod

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Ive never understood why people complain about monarch charging first. Many sites do that. Anyhow, its a moot point. If you create an account, try reading the "terms and conditions." If you place and order, you are argeeing by those terms by placing the order. Thus, you cant complain about it. If you dont agree, dont place the order.

Monarch has always been good for me. They have some of the best prices around, thus sometimes they sell out fast which causes some delays. To be expected if you ask me. I have yet to see any other sites selling opterons for the prices monarch does.

The only thing I can say agaisnt monarch is if you ever cancel an order, they take like 2weeks-month to refund your card. : / I have done probably 4-5 cancelations with them in the past year and it always ends up being a month before I see my credit. But honestly, that is more of an irritation than anything else. Its not like I "need" the money credited back right away anyhow.
 

technogeeky

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Originally posted by: DidlySquat
Originally posted by: technogeeky
Originally posted by: DidlySquat
Originally posted by: technogeeky
** ripped from FW and me driving over there **

AMD opteron 175 Dual-Core 2.2GHz 1MB (per core) 64/32-Bit (939) $516.00 minus $40 = $476

AMD opteron 170 Dual-Core 2.0GHz 1MB (per core) 64/32-Bit (939) $401.00 minus $38 = $363

AMD opteron 165 Dual-Core 1.8GHz 1MB (per core) 64/32-Bit (939) $337.67 minus $66 = $271.67

** The 165 Code Confirmed By Me **

AMD opteron 148 2.2GHz 1MB 64/32-Bit (939) $261.00 minus $51 = $210

AMD opteron 146 2.0GHz 1MB 64/32-Bit (939) $227.00 minus $66 = $161


I just picked up 3 of the 165s and got three:
CCBBE 0610DPMW chips

These are known to hit 3.0GHz and beyond pretty easily. As of 3pm today, they had at least 70 in stock.


Cheers!


So you already have the CPUs ? Usually it takes them a few days untyil they ship and arrive.

I ordered from Monarch a few weeks ago (last time they had Opteron 165 for $270 with coupon) and got the same stepping CCBBE 0610DPMW. Like everyone says (check out xtremesystems.org forums) it overclocks great. I'm currently running 9x320=2880 MHz 1.47V 45C load temps on air, prime stable, and that's without really trying to push it (I haven't even tried going higher).

But note that not everyone gets the same stepping, even a few weeks ago they were shipping the CCBBE stepping for a few days and afterwards they started shipping other steppings which were not as good. But at least it seems to be in batches, that is everyone gets the same stepping until the run out and start shipping from another batch.

I bought it at the B&M monarch in Georgia. They ship from that store and another one (I don't know where the warehouse is).

I'm excited to hear how successful your overclock was and I'm hoping for similar


It's practically guaranteed that your CCBBE will do at least 2800 MHz. Just make sure you have a good motherboard (e.g. DFI) and memory. It WILL do 2700 on stock 1.35V voltage (no need to increase CPU voltage). So you can BOOT UP with 300 MHz FSB (HTT 3X, Memory 2/3 divider, everything else auto) -- NO PROBLEM. From there it takes about .1 V for each 100 MHz on average, for example 2900 on 1.5V (but some can do 3000 on less).


I purchased Mushkin DDR500 memory (2x1GB) so I'm hoping that will perform well also. It was about $230 from Newegg.
 

DidlySquat

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Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: DidlySquat
It's practically guaranteed that your CCBBE will do at least 2800 MHz. Just make sure you have a good motherboard (e.g. DFI) and memory. It WILL do 2700 on stock 1.35V voltage (no need to increase CPU voltage).

"Practically" guaranteed? If you are going to say that, are you willing to be the one doing the guaranteeing?

A better choice of words are something to the effect of, "It is not unknown for a CCBBE to do 2800MHz." Saying that it is practically guaranteed will just cause disappointment in those who can't hit that speed, or can't hit 2700MHz at stock voltage. I have two Opteron 144 chips with the same code and one is fine, but the other one is horrid in comparison. You gonna "guarantee" it and buy it off me? :evil: Yes, the "horrid" chip will overclock, but nowhere near your guarantee, and I have an Ultra-D board and various RAM modules which can take the "good" chip up there.

I don't know about the opteron 144 steppings, but virtually every report of overclocking the opteron 165 stepping CCBBE 0610DPMW (with a 904 in the serial code marked below the stepping) shows 2800 or more. So the fact is that amongst serious overclockers, no one yet received a bad CPU from this exact stepping and code. The OP already said he has this stepping, and most likely it's also the *904* series code (because that's what everyone has been getting from monarch lately). So if he truely has the same stepping/code, then it would be a very unlikely for it not to reach 2800. In fact, based on the overclocking reports I saw, the median overclock is above 2900 and no one is below 2800.
 

hbui

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Though I've heard a couple of horror stories about monarch, I've never run into any problem with them. Bought a 146 a few weeks ago and it got shipped out 2 days after initial purchase. Purchased opteron 165 yesterday morning and it shipped out the same date afternoon w/ tracking info. Also bought a webcam last year w/o any problem...
 

Localan

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Follow-up:
Did get a personal phone call from Sterling apologizing for the misunderstanding. He said that they were out of Retail Units, but I should have been offered an OEM as a replacement. Left me his cell number in case I needed any more assistance making things right.

Also got an email from the original rep (sent to all who had AM2 issues apparently) stating the following:
...Please do not cancel your order without first allowing us to talk with you; we are prepared to make different arrangements for all of the customers who are affected with the delay on the AM2 CPUs. Please understand that the ETAs on the web are constantly changing however we are also constantly getting inventory in, we are at the mercy of AMD. ...

Finally, got a notice from their billing department that my card had been refunded.

Restores a little of my faith that they are trying to correct the problems. Just wish it was a little more proactive and a little less reactive.


Originally posted by: Localan
I too have just had another incident of Monarch charging me for a new AM2 processor listed as "In-stock" the same day I ordered on the 31st.
Processor still In-Stock on the 1st, no ship.
Processor still In-Stock on the 2nd, no ship.
Processor lists as ETA June 30th for the 3rd and 4th, no ship.
Processor lists as ETA June 30th on the 5th. Get an email from customer service? saying they never got shipment of the processors from AMD due to manufacturing issues and that they would let me know sometime in the next two weeks when I might get a processor shipped from them. Nice inventory management. Meanwhile, my CC has been charged the entire time.

Meanwhile all the other parts I ordered the same day from alternate vendors have not only shipped, but are sitting on my kitchen table.

They don't get another chance to play like this with me.

Great prices every once in awhile like these are carrots on a stick IMO. Hopefully you aren't counting on them for delivery in a timely manner though.

I will say this. The only other time I ordered there (also took 4 days to email me that the "In-Stock" really meant "not really in-stock") they did manage to refund the charges to my card in only 5 days as opposed to the up to 7 they quoted. Right on man.

<edit> Just got my cancellation notice. No apologies or sorry we could not please you. Apparently it will take 15-20 days to refund my money this time. I am betting it took more like 15 - 20 minutes to take it in the first place. <edit>

 

TheBrain77

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heh a few months ago when i ordered my 165 and 1900xt from monarch, it was delayed several days. so i finally called them and posted on hardocp.

so i got a chance to speak to sterling, and while i appriciate his attention to customers. I told him to cancel my order. I felt it was improper for me to let ~$850 go to a company that delayed shipping that badly.

he acknowledged on the phone that they should of contacted me sooner, which he later said they tried. I have caller id on my phone. it showed no records of anyone from his area code or any "unknown numbers" during the period i was waiting for my parts to ship.

anyhow. After talking with him for a little bit i reiterated my wish to cancel. His response was "well we will cancel it as fraud." I am not sure what effect this has but i responded that it was not fraud. his response "well thats how i see it"

Mind you all i was a CSR for about 4 years for a major retailer. I never treated him rudely or made any demands. I did no make any threat or any accusation to him in our discussion. I simply requested a refund.

But since then, if i see monarch and complaints i will post my story. I complained on the hardocp board about the situation, along with another guy who had a similar experience at the time. I never said they were criminal but my point is....

They will not steal your money, they will not treat you entirely rudely. But they will mess up shpment of items.

good luck with your orders

-thebrain
 

Mucker

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Even though they have occasional good prices, Monarch is the very last place I look to shop and I do not recommend them. I've been torched a couple of times by them and a couple of times were just adequate. Newegg, ZZF, and MWave are my faves, and I try for ZZF every time if it allows, they simply have been outstanding for me. I've had a couple of shady rebates lately from Newegg, I've seen more and more complaints about that recently....

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DidlySquat

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I think that if you don't get the good stepping than you got pwned. Anyone that doesn't have dual core opteron running 2.8 GHz is pwned
 

stockjock

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Day 14 and still no communication about my order...I've sent them 4 emails now and I've heard diddly squat (which means I have heard not a word from them and not AT member DidlySquat..lol) from them. I've looked and the stuff I ordered shows in stock!! ARghhh...I hate this place
 

Jbog

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Originally posted by: modempower
Ive never understood why people complain about monarch charging first. Many sites do that. Anyhow, its a moot point. If you create an account, try reading the "terms and conditions." If you place and order, you are argeeing by those terms by placing the order. Thus, you cant complain about it. If you dont agree, dont place the order.

Monarch has always been good for me. They have some of the best prices around, thus sometimes they sell out fast which causes some delays. To be expected if you ask me. I have yet to see any other sites selling opterons for the prices monarch does.

The only thing I can say agaisnt monarch is if you ever cancel an order, they take like 2weeks-month to refund your card. : / I have done probably 4-5 cancelations with them in the past year and it always ends up being a month before I see my credit. But honestly, that is more of an irritation than anything else. Its not like I "need" the money credited back right away anyhow.
Honestly, it's more than an irritation to a lot of people. Having it in their terms and conditions may make it legal, but that doesn't necessarily make it right.

Most places just take a hold on your credit or bank account. And it only takes them a few days at the most to take that off in case the order is cancelled. There is no excuse for Monarch taking their sweet ass time.
 

stockjock

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OK...another day goes by and still no communication...I even left a message this time...my next step is off to Resellerratings.com and the BBB...I'm pissed!!!
 

formulav8

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I can honestly say the 10x or so times i've ordered from them i've gotton good service. Usually shipped 1-2 days after I ordered. I don't know if they charge before shipping, but I could care less about that personally. Anyways, I do plan on ordering from them in the future, but if they continue getting un-satified customers, I will end up taking them off my list of trusted companys.

ZZF is honestly the best company to me. Newegg used to be great but they have went downhill the past year or so in my opinion. But, as long as ZipZoomFly is around, I will try to do most of my shopping there. Hopefully they won't end up going downhill.



Jason
 

Localan

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I did post at RR, which is honestly why Sterling said he called me. They have replied to my post there now with the same story and an additional tag line that I was "surprisingly difficult" and "angry".

I was indeed angry that it would take them a week to tell me that they didn't have a CPU they knew they never had and then try to sell me something else instead. I was never anything but polite to Sterling though. I guess that me telling Sterling that I had already sourced the CPU in stock elsewhere and didn't need to order anything else instead from Monarch was the "surprisingly difficult" part. BAD Localan!!

Again though, good luck on your orders. Darn good pricing if you get them when you need them.
 

stockjock

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I finally got a shipping notice last night...funny how it came after my email to them letting them know that I was just about ready to post a "Very Dissatisfied"on RR site...Things that make you go Hmmm!
 

Johnniewalker

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Hmmm...tough call...been wanting to upgrade my 64 3200+ venice...the 165 or the Fry's combo with x2 3800 for $279 and sell the ecs mobo...leaning to the x2 3800...

Extremely tempting!
 
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Uhhh I got my opty 170 during the last sale quite easily.... They were slow because I HATE how they require the CC to have gift addresses. That's just retarded. You should be able to ship to a diff address than ur gift address without calling your damn CC company.

Anyways, after that got sorted out (placed order on Friday, got issue resolved on Mon afternoon). They confirmed me Tuesday morning and shipped out on Wed. I got my Opty on Friday. They even bumped me from 3 day to 2day fedex.
 

TheBrain77

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Originally posted by: Localan
I did post at RR, which is honestly why Sterling said he called me. They have replied to my post there now with the same story and an additional tag line that I was "surprisingly difficult" and "angry".

I was indeed angry that it would take them a week to tell me that they didn't have a CPU they knew they never had and then try to sell me something else instead. I was never anything but polite to Sterling though. I guess that me telling Sterling that I had already sourced the CPU in stock elsewhere and didn't need to order anything else instead from Monarch was the "surprisingly difficult" part. BAD Localan!!

Again though, good luck on your orders. Darn good pricing if you get them when you need them.

i am not surprised about this. as i previously stated i worked CSR for 4 years and ran into my share of difficult and angry customers.

however from my experience of him stating that they cancel my order as "fraud" when i requested a cancel forces me to take any of their responses with little weight

Fact is i wish my CSR job was that easy. I am not perfect by any means but i did receive one good snippet from my trainer when i started. "Put yourself in their shoes and treat them like you would want your mother treated". Sounds cliche but when you take perspective. I never got mad at an angry customer because a majority of them had a good reason to be upset.

Now.. here is something you may not of realized but i picked up on Bait and switch

Good luck

-brain
 
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