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Gibson486

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Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: HopJokey
I'm a software engineer and my degree is a B.S. in Computer Engineering. I'm not sure that counts as a traditional "engineer" such as Civil, Mech., etc.

same boat as me, I mean Microsoft says I'm an Engineer in certifications, and my job title has Engineer in it... do those count?

I always debate this. I mean...software engineer is kind of pushing....there are some software people that actually know the stuff (physics...etc), but there are some that just know how to code and could not care less about the science behind the project.
 

erub

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Jun 21, 2000
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BS Electrical Engineering, Texas A&M, May 2006
MS Electrical Engineering, Georgia Tech, Dec 2007

Just started 2 months ago (took a little time off) a rotational program with a large semiconductor firm in Tempe, AZ
 

Jeff7

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Jan 4, 2001
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Engineering student here.
After this semester, I've just got to do my senior project in the spring, and then I'm done.
It's a 4 year program for mechanical engineering technology. The "technology" program is a bit more hands-on - there are more labs, and less theory. There is also no calculus work or derivations done in class (well, some, but very few). That was one of the reasons I switched. Calculus is to me as Chess is to "Red" in Shawshank Redemption. A total fuckin' mystery. I passed Calc I, II, and Partial & Ordinary Differential Equations. Calc I and II, I got B's, mainly because my good homework scores boosted my grades. I also got a B in high school, when I had Calculus there. Tests were another story though. So many procedures and formulas to memorize, I had a lot of trouble keeping them straight.

I got through Diff-Eq with a solid C - no homework in that class, just tests and quizzes. That nuked my GPA pretty nicely, since it was a 4-credit course. Oh well. I'm Deans List just about every other semester besides that. Same thing though as the other calc classes, 200 million different methods of solving types of equations, which just need to be memorized. Root method, Laplace Transform (my favorite), Fourier Transform, and.....I honestly don't remember the names of the others.



It's kind of an ok major, I guess.
Sometimes I think I should have gone into particle physics though. Oh well. The math there though probably would have kept me in college retaking courses until I was 50.

 

Joemonkey

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Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: HopJokey
I'm a software engineer and my degree is a B.S. in Computer Engineering. I'm not sure that counts as a traditional "engineer" such as Civil, Mech., etc.

same boat as me, I mean Microsoft says I'm an Engineer in certifications, and my job title has Engineer in it... do those count?

I always debate this. I mean...software engineer is kind of pushing....there are some software people that actually know the stuff (physics...etc), but there are some that just know how to code and could not care less about the science behind the project.

Well, from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineer

An engineer is a person who is professionally engaged in a field of engineering. Engineers are concerned with developing economical and safe solutions to practical problems, by applying mathematics and scientific knowledge while considering technical constraints. As such, the work of engineers is the link between perceived needs of society and commercial applications. Some consider this profession to be the link between art and science.

In my job I do this every day
 

JohnCU

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Dec 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: HopJokey
I'm a software engineer and my degree is a B.S. in Computer Engineering. I'm not sure that counts as a traditional "engineer" such as Civil, Mech., etc.

same boat as me, I mean Microsoft says I'm an Engineer in certifications, and my job title has Engineer in it... do those count?

I always debate this. I mean...software engineer is kind of pushing....there are some software people that actually know the stuff (physics...etc), but there are some that just know how to code and could not care less about the science behind the project.

Well, from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineer

An engineer is a person who is professionally engaged in a field of engineering. Engineers are concerned with developing economical and safe solutions to practical problems, by applying mathematics and scientific knowledge while considering technical constraints. As such, the work of engineers is the link between perceived needs of society and commercial applications. Some consider this profession to be the link between art and science.

In my job I do this every day

if you have a BS in CpE then i consider that a real engineer, it's basically EE except with a few different classes junior/senior year.

 

duragezic

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Oct 11, 1999
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Yeah I don't think everyone realizes that. Well curriculums vary but just about all of them that I've seen have been like that. I was so close to be able to get a EE double major without even trying to. Some companies seem to think it is basically IT even. Were I to have gotten a double major, I'd had to take Calc 3, Intro Emag, and one other course.
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: duragezic
Yeah I don't think everyone realizes that. Well curriculums vary but just about all of them that I've seen have been like that. I was so close to be able to get a EE double major without even trying to. Some companies seem to think it is basically IT even. Were I to have gotten a double major, I'd had to take Calc 3, Intro Emag, and one other course.

lol if i ever heard someone confusing IT with computer engineering i would punch them in the face.

okay maybe i wouldn't do that but i would call them an idiot.
 

Bignate603

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Sep 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: xeemzor
With all the unemployed engineers, I'm glad I chose accounting

Nah, they're just the ones that have time to post on ATOT.

ME, graduated in May, 2008 from ASU.
Working as a turbine engine designer.
 
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Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: HopJokey
I'm a software engineer and my degree is a B.S. in Computer Engineering. I'm not sure that counts as a traditional "engineer" such as Civil, Mech., etc.

same boat as me, I mean Microsoft says I'm an Engineer in certifications, and my job title has Engineer in it... do those count?

If an accredited college gave you a degree with the word "Engineer" in it, you qualify for the purposes of this thread.
 

Joemonkey

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Mar 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: George P Burdell
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: HopJokey
I'm a software engineer and my degree is a B.S. in Computer Engineering. I'm not sure that counts as a traditional "engineer" such as Civil, Mech., etc.

same boat as me, I mean Microsoft says I'm an Engineer in certifications, and my job title has Engineer in it... do those count?

If an accredited college gave you a degree with the word "Engineer" in it, you qualify for the purposes of this thread.

so, to be an engineer, you MUST have sat in a classroom for X amount of time, and experience and, oh i don't know, maybe actually practicing the art of engineering means nothing?
 

JohnCU

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Dec 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: George P Burdell
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: HopJokey
I'm a software engineer and my degree is a B.S. in Computer Engineering. I'm not sure that counts as a traditional "engineer" such as Civil, Mech., etc.

same boat as me, I mean Microsoft says I'm an Engineer in certifications, and my job title has Engineer in it... do those count?

If an accredited college gave you a degree with the word "Engineer" in it, you qualify for the purposes of this thread.

so, to be an engineer, you MUST have sat in a classroom for X amount of time, and experience and, oh i don't know, maybe actually practicing the art of engineering means nothing?

i work with a lot of engineers who didn't even go to college but after 25 years of doing the job, they know what they're doing and i consider them engineers.
 

91TTZ

Lifer
Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: George P Burdell
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: HopJokey
I'm a software engineer and my degree is a B.S. in Computer Engineering. I'm not sure that counts as a traditional "engineer" such as Civil, Mech., etc.

same boat as me, I mean Microsoft says I'm an Engineer in certifications, and my job title has Engineer in it... do those count?

If an accredited college gave you a degree with the word "Engineer" in it, you qualify for the purposes of this thread.

That definition doesn't come close to working.

If I got a degree in electrical engineering but decided to become an accountant, and another guy went to school for physics and ended up working as an engineer, you're telling me that I'd be the engineer while he'd be something else?
 

KillerCharlie

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I'm an aerospace engineer, currently doing aerodynamic design on airplanes.


Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Also, what kind of engineer qualifies as an engineer?

Materials engineer?
civil engineer?
mechanical engineer?
electrical engineer?
network engineer?
sanitation engineer?
train engineer?

You're an engineer if ABET says you're an engineer.
 

91TTZ

Lifer
Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: KillerCharlie

I'm an aerospace engineer, currently doing aerodynamic design on airplanes.


Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Also, what kind of engineer qualifies as an engineer?

Materials engineer?
civil engineer?
mechanical engineer?
electrical engineer?
network engineer?
sanitation engineer?
train engineer?

You're an engineer if ABET says you're an engineer.

False.

ABET is only an accreditor for college programs. It has no oversight over the actual engineering work being done.

Remember that college is only preparation for the workplace. Only once you enter the workplace is your job title defined. In other words, if you go to school to be an engineer and end up selling cars, you're a car salesman, not an engineer.
 

Dedpuhl

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Nov 20, 1999
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Originally posted by: KillerCharlie

I'm an aerospace engineer, currently doing aerodynamic design on airplanes.


Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Also, what kind of engineer qualifies as an engineer?

Materials engineer?
civil engineer?
mechanical engineer?
electrical engineer?
network engineer?
sanitation engineer?
train engineer?

You're an engineer if ABET says you're an engineer.

Actually, if you graduate from an ABET accredited university, you legally (in many states)cannot call yourself an engineer until you pass the PE examination. So, you're an engineer if NCEES and your State Board say you're an engineer.

It's silly, but that's the way they set it up...
 
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