All sorely misguided DEMS.... solute your new President of the United States.... "BUSH"

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fragarific

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Cyber, do you think we don't know that undercounts aren't counted? Have you been reading anything in the newspapers called a possible recount. It would make sure that the votes set as undervotes now are acually undervotes.
 

woodsman

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"GOODTIME GEORGE",stoled it fair and square. And in the end, it came down to the Republicans against the Democrats in the Supreme Court.BTW,you can tell the class of people by the attitude they project when they win. Republicans, keep gloating. You are the superior race. LOL! NC!!
woodsman
 

veryape

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Michael,all I can say to you is that we will all know who got more votes in a couple of weeks when the votes are available to all. I think your mathematics will definetely be put to the test. I think your numbers are bloated.

[edit]remember,i'm talking about every vote cast. Not just democratic votes or just what was considered to be acceptable. I'm talking about all discernable votes. Mathmatical scholars have been saying all along that if it were possible to legally use every vote cast that Gore would win. There is really no argument anyone can dispute the facts with. Even many republicans will and have agreed with this.
 

ckluu

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The sad thing is that Gore can't even carry his own state. Had he won that, Florida would not even be in the picture.
Who do think knows him better? People from his own state or the 'majority' of Americans?
 

DefRef

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Any recounts under a FOIA request in Florida will be bogus and only done to provide ammunition to the "must...discredit...Bush...urk.." forces. There will be NO standards to judge other than a desire to be able to say, "Gore had more!"

I see the GSA is going to give Bush the transition funds and offices. About damn time! The new Prez has a bunch of work to get done before moving in and his too-damn-polite encouragement of Roboliar?'s mental illness has put him behind schedule.
 

veryape

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How did I know you would say this? Remember,there will be republicans doing the counting too. Also,msnbc and cnn have also requested the opportunity to count the ballots also,plus many other news networks,many republican networks. That excuse that they will be trying to discredit Bush will not hold much water as there will be many reports with numbers that will be very close I'll bet.


Face it,just as I won't accept Bush you won't accept Gore as president. The difference is that if it was the other way around I would be on Bush's side because I would not be blinded by the politics of it and would see it for what it really was. It is an election in which not only did Al Gore get the populaqr vote but he also got more votes in Florida and Bush will not let the votes be counted,in any way. It has nothing to do with Bush fearing partisan counting,it has to do with the fact that he is ahead now and fears he will lose if all the votes are counted. He does not care if he gets in office and then we find that he did not win,as long as he gets in that is all that matters to him
 

BoberFett

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veryblind

How many times must it be said? Unless you're going to hand recount every vote in the country, don't even start to say that Gore won the popular vote. That argument is totally invalid. And if Gore really got more votes in Florida, then why after three counts did he still not win?

Damn you are deluded.
 

DefRef

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but he also got more votes in Florida

No, he didn't. That is a piece of propaganda that the Goreistas repeated ad naseum through their lackeys in the media in the hopes of conning the public into standing by and watching them attempt Grand Theft Election.

I could chant, "It's clear that 'Showgirls' is better than 'Citizen Kane'" 24/7/5 weeks, but that's won't make it so.

The "Gore got more votes" mantra is just the first step in the Left's campaign to paralyze Bush's agenda and to rally the people to oppose anything he proposes.

If Gore has won fair and square, I wouldn't have liked it (just like I didn't like Clinton), but I would've accepted it and moved on with my life, ignoring Roboliar? every day. The frantic, desperate attempts of the Goreistas to say that Bush would've done the same is just a feeble attempt to elevate Gore by dragging down Bush.

Bush already had a job, a Gameboy and a stack of coloring books to occupy him if he'd lost.

Gore has nothing but the realization that he couldn't score when he started on third base. He's failed at everything he's tried and now all he has is a lonely encounter with a loaded revolver to try and silence the voices that keep screaming "LOSER!!!" to him.

Begone Roboliar?! Rust In Peace.
 

Zucchini

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Dec 10, 1999
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Your sig is so hypocritical now: ) ahahahha


"100,000,000 Americans voted on Nov. 7th., but, the only votes that mattered are the FOUR corrupt, partisan hacks who voted to steal the election for Al Gore, 31 days later
 

AndrewR

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Could we all agree on one aspect of this debate? The term "undervote" is a political creation of the Democratic spin doctors. The ballots in question have no clear choice for president/vice-president. Use of the term "undervote" implies that they are somehow considered votes. They are, and always have been, ballots.



<< I bet the fool steps in dogsh!t and tracks it all over the carpet in the Whitehouse his first day there. >>


Red, you can blame Buddy for that one.
 

Athanasius

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Quick poll:

How many people have read the entire Supreme Court decision for themselves? I know I have, and I know by his post that apoppin has. Anybody else?
 

jjm

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Undermine Bush's agenda?!?!

I hope no one here really believes that anything of substance will get done during this presidency. The Supreme Court non-decision merely enhanced the partisan rancor. The court did not even have the courage to make its decision final. Remanding the case back to Florida was pretty lame.

This will be a lame-duck presidency from the start.

But I better get my tax cut! Gimme, gimme, gimme. Bush bought the votes fair and square. He better pay up, or else!
 

DefRef

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All in all, it was a suitably muddled end to a muddled election with muddled candidates. Did you really expect brilliance?
 

Athanasius

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Red Dawn:

Your posts are some of the most brilliantly ad hominem slams I have ever seen. Despite my personal refusal to use such an approach, I have to say one thing:

ROTFLMAO!
 

Thorn

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<< I hope no one here really believes that anything of substance will get done during this presidency. >>


He has a majority of the House, majority of the Senate (w/ Cheney as a tie-breaker), and can bloody hell do almost anything he wants. If he didn't have either the House or the Senate I could see your point, but otherwise it's just spin and BS. He will do what he wants to do, and he will get what legislation he wants passed. This fabrication that Bush's already a lame duck is ridiculous in the extreme. He doesn't have to listen to Democrat or Liberal wrangling if he doesn't want to... of course, he might listen to some of their ideas, if he feels like it, just because he's a nice guy.

Clinton didn't care about Bi-Partisanship in `92 and he won by a lower percentage than Bush did. This &quot;divided nation&quot; crap is just that, crap.

Now, Bush, lower my taxes baby! Woohoo!
 

BoberFett

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What some people fail to realize is that every president in modern history starts with a 75% approval rating. The 25% that voted for him plut the 50% that don't care. The other 25% that voted Democrat just get to stand around now and b!tch and moan and wait for Bush to screw something up so they can cry about how Gore should have been president.

This election is really nothing new.
 

ckluu

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Why count the undervotes? Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't undervotes are no votes? Using Pres. Clinton's reasoning - no intercourse -> no sex; therefore, no penetration -> no vote!!
 

jjm

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Thorn - You do know the parliamentary procedure rules in the Senate regarding filibusters and other similar maneuvers, right? If not, look them up. Now explain how, in what will be an even more highly charged partisan environment than we have seen for the past eight years, Congress will get anything but watered-down legislation passed?

That said, I still want my tax cut! Gimme, gimme, gimme. Dubaya promised it, so he better deliver the full across-the-board, deep cuts he promised, or else! Following your logic, Thorn, I should not expect even one cent less. Again, following your logic, if his hand is so full, failure to deliver on every promise he made will mean he is inept, incompetent, and/or a liar, right? After all, it's a slam dunk!
 

Thorn

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<< Thorn - You do know the parliamentary procedure rules in the Senate regarding filibusters and other similar maneuvers, right? If not, look them up. Now explain how, in what will be an even more highly charged partisan environment than we have seen for the past eight years, Congress will get anything but watered-down legislation passed? >>


True, the Reps have some Dem windbags to contend with on that front, but the Senate Majority leader can tell them to &quot;grab some pine&quot; with a majority vote. Also, you severly underestimate Cheney's ability to control the Senate's agendas (the VP is the president of the Senate), he's by far the most influencial VP to take office since Johnson and he will be attending far more Senatorial caucus than any other VP in recent history (he said as much in his interview with Brokaw). They'll get far more done in the next 2-4 years than you'd imagine.


<< That said, I still want my tax cut! Gimme, gimme, gimme. Dubaya promised it, so he better deliver the full across-the-board, deep cuts he promised, or else! Following your logic, Thorn, I should not expect even one cent less. Again, following your logic, if his hand is so full, failure to deliver on every promise he made will mean he is inept, incompetent, and/or a liar, right? After all, it's a slam dunk! >>


You'll get the tax cut. And yes, Slam Dunk. Just like Shaq at the Arena.
 

Russ

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<< Face it,just as I won't accept Bush you won't accept Gore as president. The difference is that if it was the other way around I would be on Bush's >>



veryape,

No, the &quot;difference&quot; is that Bush will be President, and Gore is toast. Now, I know that this realization is painful, so just try to suck up and adjust, bunky.

Russ, NCNE
 

cxim

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<><>True, the Reps have some Dem windbags to contend with on that front, but the Senate Majority leader can tell them to &quot;grab some pine&quot; with a majority vote<><>

NOPE ! wrong bigtime !!! it takes 60 votes to break a filibuster....
 

I'm Typing

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Oct 9, 1999
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Judging by the quality of your posts, your inability to spell, and the fact that you cannot construct a valid sentence speaks volumes about you. The fact that you and the majority of the electoral college voted for Bush speaks volumes about the stupidity of the American people.

I feel sorry for you. I feel sorry for this country.
 
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