"All the world will denounce the SONY", re. The Interview

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z1ggy

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They have a lot of money but it's not unlimited. They only have what computers China has sold them. I imagine that their internet access comes from China too. It's not crazy to suggest that China was involved.

Or, NK just paid their buddies China to do it for them. Hell, maybe Kimmie gave somebody in Chinese gov't a nice handy or something.

Can't believe we essentially negotiated with terrorists, and gave into the demands. Now they are liable to do it again and expect the same results.
 

jman19

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The left doesn't care. One of there favorite countries on the planet just threatened US movie theaters, which fearing that threat proceeded to cancel the move showing. What was sony supposed to do?

America is so much safer under Obama, that Supreme commander Kim, from north korea can now tell our movie theaters what films to show.

Rage on troll, and wipe the frothing spittle off your monitor while you're at it.
 

Blanky

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I started thinking more about this issue last night and the ramifications of Sony's decision for future media...and it pissed me off to no end. I hate that we are living in a country where veiled threats are defining how we live. It makes me angry and nauseous.
It's an unbelievably bad precedent. I don't entirely blame Sony, though. In this country if somebody does commit a murder at a showing--even just a yahoo with no affiliation to anything--Sony could be sued. People are already suing the theater with the batman killer, for example. Something needs to happen perhaps at the federal level with an edict or emergency passage of a law saying that anybody legally showing artwork or creating an intellectual product cannot be held responsible for what somebody else does who doesn't like it. Otherwise, somebody who doesn't want a movie to come out about Obama can do the same thing, or somebody who hates Taylor Swift can say they'll blow up any venue that is hosting one of her shows. It's terrible this happening.
 

Ancalagon44

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It would be a shame if someone were to "hack" into Sony's servers and release, I mean "leak" The Interview as a torrent.

With a release note saying "Kim Jong Un, watch this!"
 

JimmiG

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NK days the film is an act of war... What a bunch of little whiny bitches..

Haven't they starved to death yet?

According to NK, the war never ended. They think they're still at war with the USA. They also think the world is too afraid to attack because NK has missiles (designed by the Dear Leader himself!). In reality no one cares about NK any more, and Sony shouldn't, either.

China has no interest in taking over NK. They like to keep NK the way it is, as an "exclusion zone" and guard dog against SK. They don't want them to get all rich and powerful, but they don't want the country to collapse and reunite with SK either.

USA doesn't care because no oil.

Putin is too busy terrorizing eastern Europe and brainwashing his own people.
 
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Blanky

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It would be a shame if someone were to "hack" into Sony's servers and release, I mean "leak" The Interview as a torrent.

With a release note saying "Kim Jong Un, watch this!"

Unfortunately the hackers did get the interview but haven't released it, whereas they did the others. I really hope this gets out in high def one way or another.
 

SlowSpyder

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The left doesn't care. One of there favorite countries on the planet just threatened US movie theaters, which fearing that threat proceeded to cancel the move showing. What was sony supposed to do?

America is so much safer under Obama, that Supreme commander Kim, from north korea can now tell our movie theaters what films to show.


I work with some left-leaning people, one is a registered Democrat. I have not once heard any of them say anything positive about North Korea. Do you have any evidence that Obama had anything to do with this? Or is that just how you want it to be for your own agenda?

I think it is lame that theaters were cancelling the showing of this movie and that Sony eventually cancelled the release. But I don't know how we can blame Obama for what a corporation decides to do.
 

Zorba

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The left doesn't care. One of there favorite countries on the planet just threatened US movie theaters, which fearing that threat proceeded to cancel the move showing. What was sony supposed to do?

America is so much safer under Obama, that Supreme commander Kim, from north korea can now tell our movie theaters what films to show.

These decisions were made by independent companies. They came to these decisions because America is so controlled by fear of terrorism nowadays. Guess which administration made pushing fear part of its daily routine?

This has nothing to do with Obama, useless you are calling for a massive expansion of executive powers where the president can order private businesses to show specific movies. Just wait until he uses that power to make theaters show nothing but Michael Moore movies.
 

bshole

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I have to wonder how Americans and our government would respond if a major movie was produced that had as it's premise killing Obama. Would we be offended or outraged? Dunno.

I do know that I WILL see this movie. All of the controversy has made this movie a must-see for me.
 

unokitty

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Don't know about all the North Korea hate. There is no published evidence that the Sony attack originated there. Besides isn't it obvious that anyone with a grudge against Sony would do their best to make it appear that the attack came from North Korea?

Perhaps a better question would be why was Sony such a soft target? After all:
While the company had a heightened awareness of denial-of-service attacks and other threats at the edge of the network, its internal IT staff was stretched thin. Earlier this year, Sony Pictures experienced repeated trouble with e-mail service, as its Microsoft Exchange 2007 infrastructure strained under the company’s e-mail load and its retention policy that forced users to keep e-mail in their inboxes forever, which had been in place for nearly seven years. A reduction in the amount of IT support from corporate parent Sony Corporation of America and poor support team training exacerbated the problems, according to e-mails leaked out of Sony Pictures.

The international aspect of Sony Pictures and the layoffs that the company had undertaken earlier this year overseas and in the US gave some credence to the claims by the “Guardians of Peace” that they were acting on behalf of former employees. The unprofessional nature of the code used in the “Destover” wiper malware adds to that illusion. It used commercial components and looks like something hobbled together from a well-worn malware kit bought off an underground web forum.
Reportedly, the attack code wasn't very sophisticated.

... Craig Williams, senior technical leader for Cisco’s Talos Security Intelligence and Research Group, in an interview with Ars. “The code is simplistic, not very complex, and not very obfuscated.”

Though, I do think that the attack is significant irregardless of where the attack came from... The fact that a major organization like Sony could leave itself vulnerable to attack by code that is "...simplistic, not very complex..." seems like major management malpractice to me...

Just my perspective, I think that organizations like Sony have an obligation to have decent information security... Blaming some crazy Asian for Sony's problem doesn't seem productive... Leave your door unlocked long enough, some one is going to walk through it...

Continue with your revenge fantasy if you want, but you might want to ask one of the still living crewmen from the USS Pueblo how much US deterrence impacts North Korean behaviours...

Uno
 
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SlowSpyder

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I have to wonder how Americans and our government would respond if a major movie was produced that had as it's premise killing Obama. Would we be offended or outraged? Dunno.

I do know that I WILL see this movie. All of the controversy has made this movie a must-see for me.


Well, apparently the number one song in North Korea is about nuking the US.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2412128
 

jhbball

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The left doesn't care. One of there favorite countries on the planet just threatened US movie theaters, which fearing that threat proceeded to cancel the move showing. What was sony supposed to do?

America is so much safer under Obama, that Supreme commander Kim, from north korea can now tell our movie theaters what films to show.

Spoken like a ignorant shit-kicking retard. Thanks Michael!
 
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The left doesn't care. One of there favorite countries on the planet just threatened US movie theaters, which fearing that threat proceeded to cancel the move showing. What was sony supposed to do?

America is so much safer under Obama, that Supreme commander Kim, from north korea can now tell our movie theaters what films to show.

So much derp, so little time.
 

cbrunny

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I have to wonder how Americans and our government would respond if a major movie was produced that had as it's premise killing Obama. Would we be offended or outraged? Dunno.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=movi...7.4023j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8


Executive Decision
Air Force One
Olympus has Fallen
The entire 24 TV series
Vantage Point
Death of a President
The Manchurian Candidate
JFK
The Day of the Jackal
Shooter
The Assassination of Richard Nixon
The Conspirator
In the Line of Fire
Executive Action

Geeze, even The West Wing had an episode where the President actually got shot.

Now, none of these are specifically Obama, but I think it's a safe bet that no one would care, especially if it were starring Seth Rogan.
 

inachu

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I will see it. But I would even more likely to not just see it but pay for 20 movie tickets and give them to friends if it was a movie about Benjamin being killed in Israel.

Then again I would buy 50 movie tickets if it was a movie of my father being shot and killed.(DEXTER RELATED)
 

Fenixgoon

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https://www.google.ca/search?q=movi...7.4023j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8


Executive Decision
Air Force One
Olympus has Fallen
The entire 24 TV series
Vantage Point
Death of a President
The Manchurian Candidate
JFK
The Day of the Jackal
Shooter
The Assassination of Richard Nixon
The Conspirator
In the Line of Fire
Executive Action

Geeze, even The West Wing had an episode where the President actually got shot.

Now, none of these are specifically Obama, but I think it's a safe bet that no one would care, especially if it were starring Seth Rogan.

how many of those movies featured someone acting as the current president?
 

TreVader

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Ok you guys saying "nobody would care" if they made a movie about assassinating a sitting president are idiots. I can guarantee to you at the very least the secret service would be breathing down your throats, and if it were another country it would be the CIA. There is no precedent for this movie, never has a movie company made a movie about assassinating a sitting world leader without at least changing the name.


Bottom line: Sony was fucking stupid to do this and they've fucked their employees bad. As an American it pisses me off that NK was able to do this to an "American" company. But as a human, with common sense, I can only smh. Sony is a Japanese owned company, tho, so it's not like these guys took down GM or Apple.

And BTW it was Sony's Tokyo corporate office that gave the order to cut the movie. That was done because Sony just doesn't want to take the liability of showing it in theaters should something go down.
 

Raizinman

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Could this be a ploy by Sony to get more people interested in this movie? What a publicity stunt!! I had not planned on seeing this movie, but now I am. The whole world is talking about this movie. How much would this of cost in real advertising dollars. Everyone now wants to see this movie, including myself. This could be the most wanted to see movie this year. Way to go Sony.
 

dainthomas

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How far we've fallen. What if "30 Seconds over Tokyo" wasn't released in 1944 for fear of offending the Emperor?

Sad.
 

Zorba

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Ok you guys saying "nobody would care" if they made a movie about assassinating a sitting president are idiots. I can guarantee to you at the very least the secret service would be breathing down your throats, and if it were another country it would be the CIA. There is no precedent for this movie, never has a movie company made a movie about assassinating a sitting world leader without at least changing the name.

I am pretty sure there were looney tunes shorts showing the characters killing Hilter.

The movie Hot Shot showed us dropping a bomb in Saddam's lap.

If Russia made a stupid comedy of trying to poison Obama and it going horribly wrong, I wouldn't care, but I think my outrage drive is broken.
 
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