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[DnetMHZ]

So my neighbor talked me in to joining his FF league.

This is my first time doing it. What are some good sites for info, tips, etc?

What should I know ahead of time? (Draft is this Wed.)

Any pointers you have would be appreciated.

<UPDATE> - Below is my current roster

QB - Tom Brady
QB - Donovan McNabb
QB - Joey Harrington
QB - Sage Rosenfels
WR - Derrick Mason
WR - Roy Williams
WR - Reggie Williams
WR - DeSean Jackson
RB - Willis McGahee
RB - Brandon Jacobs
RB - Adrian Peterson (CHI)
RB - Kenny Watson
RB - Michael Bush
TE - Owen Daniels
TE - Donald Lee
K - Phil Dawson
DEF - San Diego
DEF - New England

 

[ElFenix]

most leagues are running back heavy. depending on how many people are in the league, i wouldn't bother getting a QB until the 4th, 5th, or 6th round, because outside of peyton manning or tom brady most QBs are going to be within a very small range, fantasy wise.

 

[Lamont Burns]

Draft as many Chicago Bears as possible.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
most leagues are running back heavy. depending on how many people are in the league, i wouldn't bother getting a QB until the 4th, 5th, or 6th round, because outside of peyton manning or tom brady most QBs are going to be within a very small range, fantasy wise.

This.

Hit up yahoo's fantasy section and check the big boards for rankings based on position/overall.

Take the best RB available to you the first round.
If there's still a top quality RB available the next round grab another.
Third round should be best available WR
4th round next best WR
5th will be a RB if a decent one is still available or top tier QB's and maybe a TE
6th will be another WR
7th will start seeing more QB's & TE going off the board
8th will be more WR & TE's
9th is typically when top ranked Def might get grabbed
10th and up is more WR's, RB handcuffs, and another QB for backup
ect
Last round is the kicker

Tips:
- Don't take a QB your first pick
- Be sure to check bye weeks - you don't want your top two RB's or QB's having a buy week the same weekend
- Do your homework on injuries. Sometimes the pre-rankings don't take into account recent (camp or preseason) injuries (like McGahee)
- Don't take a kicker before the last round or two
- Be on the ball with waiver wire pickups - the last two years waiver wire studs have taken teams to championships. Last year Grant from GB carried people. The year before that it was Colston (TE for New Orleans) and Romo.

 

[GG02]

Do not draft a kicker until the final round. No kicker is worth it.

 

[GG02]

Speaking of Colston...a league I was in two years ago, he was eligible to play TE and WR. If I recall, no other player was able to do that. That really helped out the guy who went on to win. And, interestingly enough, he picked him up with one of his last picks. Of course, at the time, he was relatively unknown...

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: DnetMHZ
So my neighbor talked me in to joining his FF league.

This is my first time doing it. What are some good sites for info, tips, etc?

What should I know ahead of time? (Draft is this Wed.)

Any pointers you have would be appreciated.

Wait wait wait... they have Firefox LEAGUES now?









But in seriousness, how to approach the draft should be determined by how points are awarded in the league.

 

[TallBill]

You could also sign up for a free Yahoo public draft just to get your feet wet and see sort of what happens.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: GG02
Speaking of Colston...a league I was in two years ago, he was eligible to play TE and WR. If I recall, no other player was able to do that. That really helped out the guy who went on to win. And, interestingly enough, he picked him up with one of his last picks. Of course, at the time, he was relatively unknown...

And I should add that the year before that Larry Johnson was a waiver wire pickup for people that that didn't handcuff him to Priest.

Coincidentally I took 2nd place the year I grabbed LJ and first place the year I grabbed Colston.

Last year was horrible for me. LJ was hurt most of the year. Rudi Johnson was out all but a game or two. Brandon Jacobs was out a good part of the season. My QB's in Bulger and Schaub were hurt most of the season. My best WR in A, Boldin missed several games hurt. It was freaking ugly. Nearly half my team had a "Q" or "D" under playing statuses every week. Just goes to show that even the best draft in the world can be a dud due to injuries.

 

[DnetMHZ]

Originally posted by: Injury

But in seriousness, how to approach the draft should be determined by how points are awarded in the league.

Completions (1)
Passing Yards (25 yards per point; 3 points at 300 yards; 3 points at 400 yards)
Passing Touchdowns (6)
Interceptions (-1)
Sacks (-1)
Rushing Yards (10 yards per point; 3 points at 100 yards; 3 points at 150 yards)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Receptions (1)
Reception Yards (10 yards per point; 3 points at 125 yards; 3 points at 175 yards)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Yards (15 yards per point; 3 points at 100 yards)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (1)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (2)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Sack (1)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (4)
Block Kick (2)
Return Yards (15 yards per point)
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns (6)
Points Allowed 0 points (10)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (7)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (4)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (1)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-1)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-4)

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: Lamont Burns
Draft as many Chicago Bears as possible.

Draft Ditka

 

[OdiN]

What's a Firefox league?

 

[vi edit]

Receptions (1)

That can be a sneaky stat to take into consideration of WR's and RB's. An RB like Westbrook will be valued towards the top because he gets a lot of receptions for a back. Reggie Bush will have more value as well.

Same goes for WR selection. A slot guy like Welker might not make a ton of yards every catch, but if he has 8 catches a game for 40 yards and a TD, that's 18 points.

That's the same as having a guy like Randy Moss have a 100 yard game with a TD off of two receptions.

It just makes you consider the little dink and dunk plays a little more.

 

[DnetMHZ]

Can someone explain to me the "Don't take a QB your first pick"

Just from looking at the stats from last year.. let's take Brady as an example he has almost 900 fantasy points and the highest rated RB has less than 400.

Am I missing something? Is my league THAT QB slanted?

 

[SpunkyJones]

I wouldn't ponder Brady till about the 6th or 7th overall pick or so, then his value overshadows the need for a RB. You can get a decent QB in the 5 round, but RB's will be junk by the 3rd.

 

[vi edit]

Brady was a bit of a freak last year and flew in the face of most conventional wisdom. But he was an exception, not a rule.

There's a dozen or so QB's that will average 15 or points a week in most leagues. Some weeks they'll pull 25 points. Sometimes they'll lose 5. That's just how the position goes with INT and Sacks costing you points. There just isn't that much of a gap between top 5 QB's and top 15 QB's.

RB's on the other hand, an elite back that gets uncontested carries like LT, Westbrook, Addai, Gore, SJax, ect are good for 15-20 points a week. A second or third round RB will usually be good for 10 points or so. The difference between a top 5 and a top 5 RB is pretty significant.

 

[Uppsala9496]

Originally posted by: DnetMHZ
Can someone explain to me the "Don't take a QB your first pick"

Just from looking at the stats from last year.. let's take Brady as an example he has almost 900 fantasy points and the highest rated RB has less than 400.

Am I missing something? Is my league THAT QB slanted?

Look at the difference between the top 5 or 10 QB's and the top 5 or 10 RB's.
If the QB differential isn't that great, you can wait.


With so many teams running a 2 RB system, a RB in a solo situation is going to be valued even more.

For a nice ranking, check out ESPN or even Yahoo's rankings.

 

[DnetMHZ]

Originally posted by: Uppsala9496

Originally posted by: DnetMHZ
Can someone explain to me the "Don't take a QB your first pick"

Just from looking at the stats from last year.. let's take Brady as an example he has almost 900 fantasy points and the highest rated RB has less than 400.

Am I missing something? Is my league THAT QB slanted?

Look at the difference between the top 5 or 10 QB's and the top 5 or 10 RB's.
If the QB differential isn't that great, you can wait.


With so many teams running a 2 RB system, a RB in a solo situation is going to be valued even more.

For a nice ranking, check out ESPN or even Yahoo's rankings.

Excluding Brady from my little comparison this is what I come up with..

Top 10 RB's

381 - Brian Westbrook
380 - LaDainian Tomlinson
292 - Adrian Peterson
275 - Joseph Addai
274 - Clinton Portis
261 - Maurice Jones-Drew
258 - Jamal Lewis
240 - Marion Barber
232 - Willis McGahee
231 - Earnest Graham

Value difference between 1 & 10 (150 points)

Top 10 QB's (excluding Brady)

762 - Drew Brees
706 - Tony Romo
670 - Brett Favre
669 - Peyton Manning
667 - Carson Palmer1
627 - Matt Hasselbeck
613 - Derek Anderson
548 - Jon Kitna6
546 - Kurt Warner
540 - Ben Roethlisberger

Value difference between 1 & 10 (222 points)

In this example it seems clear that getting a QB early has more value than getting a RB early.

Is my logic flawed here?

 

[Uppsala9496]

You can start 2 RB's and only 1 QB?

Does that change your mind now?

If oyu get 2 weak RB's you are screwed. 1 strong RB, 1 weaker RB, and 1 top QB should be available.

 

[Uppsala9496]

You should also get a feel for how the draft is going. If there is a run on QB's for example, you can guage whether it is worth grabbing one your next pick or waiting.

As someone else previously mentioned, do a yahoo draft as practice. This way you will get a feel for how runs happen (everyone going after qb's or te's for example).

ALSO - DO NOT draft a kicker until your last pick. Kickers are random as hell and taking one before your last pick is just stupid.

 

[QED]

Damn it... I came in here expecting a question on Fast Fourier Transforms... sucks to be me.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: OdiN
What's a Firefox league?

Someone beat you to it.

 

[alkemyst]

yes nitrous can blow out your floorboards.

 

[vi edit]

A couple things about RB's:

1) You start two of them each and every week. Settle for a 15 and a 10 point a week RB's instead of a 20 and a 15 and that's over 160 points you've lost over the course of the season.

2) RB's are the most injury prone players out there. Knees, feet, hands, hamstrings, ect. You can't count on just one stud carrying you. There's a good chance one of them goes down for a few weeks. You can't just pick up a 10 point a week RB off the waiver to fill a position. You lose that production unless you drafted deep at the position.

With a QB, there is always somebody on the waiver that you can drop in there and unless they are absolutely horrible or get hurt in the first quarter after throwing an interception and taking a few sacks, you aren't going to miss out on that many points.

 

[DnetMHZ]

How does my roster look?

QB - Tom Brady
QB - Donovan McNabb
QB - Joey Harrington
QB - Sage Rosenfels
WR - Derrick Mason
WR - Roy Williams
WR - Reggie Williams
WR - DeSean Jackson
RB - Willis McGahee
RB - Brandon Jacobs
RB - Adrian Peterson (CHI)
RB - Kenny Watson
RB - Michael Bush
TE - Owen Daniels
TE - Donald Lee
K - Phil Dawson
DEF - San Diego
DEF - New England