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[TheInternet1980]

Originally posted by: apac
Alright my second conundrum this week. I have 4 viable receivers and only 3 slots. Here's how I'm rating them for week 2.

Dwayne Bowe
Chris Chambers
Eddie Royal
Patrick Crayton

Agree/disagree?

Disagree.

Start Chambers, Royal and Crayton. Bowe has no one to deliver him the ball, nor an OL to make sure the QB has the time to get him the ball.

Also, Eddie Royal is a stud. He absolutely destroyed D'Angelo Hall.

 

[mzinz165]

I've got two spots open (one of them being my flex spot). Which two would you guys use?:
Wes Welker
Marvin Harrison
Julius Jones

 

[TheInternet1980]

Originally posted by: mzinz165
I've got two spots open (one of them being my flex spot). Which two would you guys use?:
Wes Welker
Marvin Harrison
Julius Jones

Welker and Harrison. I'm pretty anti Julius Jones however.

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: mzinz165
I've got two spots open (one of them being my flex spot). Which two would you guys use?:
Wes Welker
Marvin Harrison
Julius Jones

I would probably do JJ and MH. I would hold off on WW until I know how NE is going to fare with Cassell. Besides both MH and JJ offer good matchups this week.

 

[tHa ShIzNiT]

I drafted last in a 12-team league and this is what I ended up with:

QB: Ben Roethlisberger / Kurt Warner
WR: Randy Moss / Reggie Brown / Derrick Mason / Patrick Crayton / Devery Henderson (just picked up)
RB: Frank Gore / Earnest Graham / Michael Turner / Selvin Young / DeAngelo Williams
TE: Heath Miller
K: Rob Bironas
Def: Pittsburgh

I feel like I had a REALLY good draft especially for going last in a 12-teamer. Some people made stupid picks early, allowing me to get Moss and Gore at 12 and 13. My next 2 picks were Burner and Roth-burger.

I ended up getting 6 of the top 30 guys on my draft cheatsheet, which is pretty amazing for a 12-teamer and going last. Anyways I digress about my draft...but yeah I feel like I did amazing in it.

ANYWAYS!!!! The question:

Who would you guys start at RB and WR this week?

WR I'm leaning towards Moss, Henderson, Crayton.
RB I'm leaning towards Gore and Turner. Hard to sit Turner after last week, but I also feel like Graham could have a good day against the ATL defense.

Thoughts? (Sorry its long, I love Fantasy FB)

 

[Pollock]

I have Forte, and I was offered Fast Willie Parker straight up. I don't want to give up Forte...

 

[VoteQuimby]

I debating who my number 2&3 WRs should be this week. I can choose between Anthony Gonzalez, Justin Gage, Courtney Taylor, and Roddy White. My #1 is Randy "gimmie the ball" Moss.

 

[VoteQuimby]

Originally posted by: Pollock
I have Forte, and I was offered Fast Willie Parker straight up. I don't want to give up Forte...

I have Forte in my league as well. See if you can bait them and hold out another week to see how both do this weekend. I had Willie in my league last year and he was a huge disappointment. But maybe he'll bounce back this year. Only concern is the rookie taking goaline carries away. Carolina should be a decent test for Forte. Do you really gain anything by getting Parker?

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: Pollock
I have Forte, and I was offered Fast Willie Parker straight up. I don't want to give up Forte...

I'd do that in a heartbeat man. Willie has proven himself over the last few years. Forte had one good game against a very suspect colts run D. Not to mention Chicago doesn't have a great passing attack, so they will end up being one-dimensional. A lot of teams are going to be putting 8 in the box to stop forte and stop him they will. Deal him while he's hot.

 

[VoteQuimby]

Originally posted by: tHa ShIzNiT
I drafted last in a 12-team league and this is what I ended up with:

QB: Ben Roethlisberger / Kurt Warner
WR: Randy Moss / Reggie Brown / Derrick Mason / Patrick Crayton / Devery Henderson (just picked up)
RB: Frank Gore / Earnest Graham / Michael Turner / Selvin Young / DeAngelo Williams
TE: Heath Miller
K: Rob Bironas
Def: Pittsburgh

I feel like I had a REALLY good draft especially for going last in a 12-teamer. Some people made stupid picks early, allowing me to get Moss and Gore at 12 and 13. My next 2 picks were Burner and Roth-burger.

I ended up getting 6 of the top 30 guys on my draft cheatsheet, which is pretty amazing for a 12-teamer and going last. Anyways I digress about my draft...but yeah I feel like I did amazing in it.

ANYWAYS!!!! The question:

Who would you guys start at RB and WR this week?

WR I'm leaning towards Moss, Henderson, Crayton.
RB I'm leaning towards Gore and Turner. Hard to sit Turner after last week, but I also feel like Graham could have a good day against the ATL defense.

Thoughts? (Sorry its long, I love Fantasy FB)

Your WR selection sounds good. The only real competition (for a stating spot)would be Reggie Brown because of the matchup.

RBs look solid too. Graham will get some yards and maybe a TD, however Griese is starting and the offense may studder at first. Turner has the potential though to blow-up.

 

[NoCreativity]

Not sure who to replace Colston with in my line up. I've got three choices on my bench:

Dwayne Bowe- KC (OAK) - Oakland is bad and he did okay against NE last week

Devery Henderson-NO (@was) - had a good week last week and figure he will get quite a few catches with Brees at the helm.

DeSean Jackson-Phi (@dal)-had a good week, but it was against the lowely Rams. Logic saya he won't have as good a week against a great dallas team but sometimes that's when players can really shine. and will McNabb continue to utilize him as much?

I'm leaning towards Henderson. Any advice?

 

[Cuda1447]

Tough choices, I'd go with DeSean Jackson. Dallas is weak with the deep ball, thats where DeSean shines. For some reason Roy Williams can never cover that. Oakland isn't THAT bad, at least not defensively. Denver is just really good. Oakland has two of the better corners in the league, Eddie Royal made them look dumb... but Eddie Royal is a talent and Cutler is on the verge of becoming a great QB. K.C. won't have as much success. Devery Henderson isn't even a consideration for me. Saints will look to Bush or Shockey or someone else. Henderson is a career backup.

 

[Garet Jax]

OK guys - one final question.

Tim Hightower or Jamal Lewis?

The only reason there is a question right now is because Jamal is against Pittsburgh. I have been flip flopping on this all week and have had each man in my starting lineup for about half the week.

I know whichever one I choose will be wrong so I thought I'd ask you guys - that way I can blame you

 

[Cuda1447]

Hightower had 8 carries for 13 yards on week 1. He only was worth a damn cause he got in the endzone, which isn't a guarantee. I'd start lewis, he's the safe bet and the starter. Hightower is teh backup.

 

[Cuda1447]

I'll throw my situation out there. Start 1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 Flex 1 TE 1 Kicker 1 D.

Starters (currently):
QB: Cutler
RB: Gore, Barber
WR: Fitzgerald, Roy Williams
Flex: Bush
TE: Shockey
Kicker: Longwell
Def: Bills

Reserve:
QB: McNabb (can't start him, he's playing against my team, Dallas... can't root for him this week)
RB: Steve Slaton, Reshard Mendenhall, Chris Perry
WR: Ocho Cinco, Torry Holt, Eddie Royal, Robert Meachem
TE: Heap



I almost pulled a multi-trade deal. I was going to trade Fitzgerald and Bush to get Palmer/Adrian Peterson. Then I was going to trade McNabb for Anquan Boldin. It fell through at the last minute cause I couldn't guarantee the Boldin/McNabb trade and without that I didn't want to kill my receiving depth. Overall though Ive got an excellent team i think.

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Hightower had 8 carries for 13 yards on week 1. He only was worth a damn cause he got in the endzone, which isn't a guarantee. I'd start lewis, he's the safe bet and the starter. Hightower is teh backup.

That's all true, but that will be Hightower's role this year. He will be the back for the goaline situations (as long as he doesn't fumble). We get 6 points for a TD, so considering he got 13 yards rushing, 27 yards passing, he got 9 points this past week. Against Miami, I have to figure he will get some goal line opportunities

If Cleveland scores TDs this week, it will most likely be in the air since I can't see Lewis running over the Steelers. The only way Lewis scores against Pittsburgh is on long runs 10-15 yards + or on passes.

With that said, Lewis will need to run for close to 100 yards against the Steelers to get points close to what I believe Hightower is going to get.

 

[Cuda1447]

I see your point Garet. But Lewis is also the goal line back. The way I see it is the cap for Hightower is probably around 10-12 points, with the low being 2-3 points. Lewis could score 2 TD's and 100 yards rushing on a good day. Thats 22 points, assuming no passing yards. Not likely against Pitt, but possible. More likely I think you could say 15-20 carries for 60-80 yards and a TD. That's still 12-14 points, low end. I don't think there is a chance in hell Lewis rushes 10 times for 25 yards and 2 points.

Point being, I think you are comparing Hightowers 'high' performance to Jamal's 'medium to low'.

 

[Garet Jax]

Just for posterity sake I checked how Lewis did last year against Pittsburgh in his two games:

Att Yards Avg Long TDs Fumbles Lost Rcvg Yrds
11 35 3.2 7 0 1 1 11
16 35 2.2 11 0 2 1 8

He did exactly what I was worried about. So in the first game, he got 2 points and in the second game he got 1 point. He does this to me, I will lose this week.

PS - He only lost two fumbles all last year. Both against the Steelers.

 

[Pollock]

Originally posted by: VoteQuimby

Originally posted by: Pollock
I have Forte, and I was offered Fast Willie Parker straight up. I don't want to give up Forte...

I have Forte in my league as well. See if you can bait them and hold out another week to see how both do this weekend. I had Willie in my league last year and he was a huge disappointment. But maybe he'll bounce back this year. Only concern is the rookie taking goaline carries away. Carolina should be a decent test for Forte. Do you really gain anything by getting Parker?

I already have 3 good RBs in a 2 RB 3 WR league (LT, Thomas Jones, Forte), and I had Colston go down, so I'm hurting for a WR. The guy with Parker also has Holmes and another player with week 6 bye, so I'm going to try and get Holmes for cheap after his weaksauce week 1.

Parker had a monster week one, but he got hardly any TDs last year (although I do have Mendenhall on my team)..

 

[hpkeeper]

Originally posted by: Garet Jax

Originally posted by: hpkeeper

Originally posted by: Elbryn
i like morris over hightower, i dont trust arizona to provide you enough points for 2 roster spots. with cassel out, the pats will run more and its looking like morris gets the goaline carries and about 50% of total carries per game.

Originally posted by: ghost recon88
Morris all the way. NE will run him a ton this weekend since the normal New England starting RB (can't remember his name right now) sucked it up in the pre-season and week 1. The "yahoo experts" think Morris will get around 30 carries against the NYJ since Cassel is now the starting QB, and they don't want to force him to throw right away.

I'm glad both of you have confidence in morris, because Hightower had more points than Edge did last week. Hightower actually had the TD last week too. That's where the problem is I guess... do I sit Edge, or do I sit Hightower. I'm basically waiting for Edge to go down with an injury then I'll have a full time back in Hightower. Until then Hightower gets to steal the goal line carries.

I think the answer depends on your scoring system. Assuming the standard 1 point for 10 yards rushing + 6 points for TD - points for turnovers, it is hard to sit Hightower in favour of Edge. Unless Hightower continues the fumbleitas from the preseason, he will be getting most if not all the red zone/short yardage situations.

As a result, he will probably keep pace or outpoint Edge all year long. I am thinking about starting Hightower over Jamal Lewis this week because of their respective matchups.

Scoring system:

1 Point per reception
1 Point Per 10 receiving yards
1 Point Per 10 rushing yards
6 Points per receiving/rushing touchdown
4 points per thrown touchdown
1 point per 50 yards thrown

So you're thinking Adrian Peterson, Tim Hightower and Sammy Morris then? I'm still thinking that I might want to trade Sammy Morris to the guy who has Lawrence Maroney... for one of this RB's straight up, or try to trade Sammy Morris for Chester Taylor and some other player (if his value is above chester taylors, which I think it is)

 

[hpkeeper]

Originally posted by: weirdichi

Originally posted by: weirdichi
My RBs:
E. Graham
R. Bush
C. Perry
J. Jones

My WRs:
V. Jackson
T. Owens
R. Wayne
T. Houshmandzadeh

His RBs:
A. Peterson
M. Turner
B. Jacobs
C. Johnson
F. Jones

His WRs:
B. Edwards
B. Marshall
Others that I can't think of off the top of my head

I'm thinkin Wayne for Turner and Marshall. He's in dire need of better receivers and I think Housh will come through for me soon, but not right now. Any suggestions?

Alright, here's the new trade:

Wayne & Graham for Jacobs & Calvin Johnson.

Thoughts?

I think you're better off keeping Reggie Wayne, simply by who is throwing to them. There is no doubt that Reggie Wayne is the go-to-guy in Indy... Calvin Johnson is good, but he has Kitna throwing to him, I think Wayne is just going to see bigger numbers overall this year similar as to when Marvin Harrison went down last year.

Brandon Marshall hasn't played in a game yet and you're ready throw everything and the kitchen sink to get him, Eddie Royal showed up big last week so Brandon Marshall may not get as many looks with Darrell Jackson and Eddie Royal on the field with him. I'd say stay where you are at with the receivers you have, Vincent Jackson is poised to have a breakout year along side Chris Chambers. If anything I'd say go with what you have right now and try to upgrade your RB's... Julius Jones is in a platoon system, Chris Perry plays for Cinncinatti, even Rudi Johnson in his prime didn't put big numbers up there, Ernest Graham is okay as is Reggie Bush... Reggie particularly in PPR leagues. I'd sell Reggie high to someone else in your league and try to get another quality RB who didn't produce as much this week, or to dump Ernest Graham to another team because I think the NFC south is going to be under rated this season defensively.

 

[apac]

Any reason yahoo would project my kicker Martin Gramatica at 0.00 points? He's the starter for NO, and doesn't appear to be injured.

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: apac
Any reason yahoo would project my kicker Martin Gramatica at 0.00 points? He's the starter for NO, and doesn't appear to be injured.

I just checked and couldn't find anything - you should be good to go.

 

[TallBill]

Any word on the Houston Baltimore game and when it will be and how it affects this weeks fantasy teams.

 

[hpkeeper]

Originally posted by: TallBill
Any word on the Houston Baltimore game and when it will be and how it affects this weeks fantasy teams.

Are there any players on either team with significant output for fantasy football aside from Andre Johnson?