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[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: NoCreativity

Originally posted by: Yzzim
Could some of you FF guys give me your input on this situation?

I'm in a league that was formed here in ATOT. The commissioner proposed a trade earlier this week.

I got:
Plaxico Burress
Steve Smith

He got:
Carson Palmer
Braylon Edwards

Now that Palmer is out today he asked for me to reverse the trade. I thought he was joking and rejected the trade. Now he's posted a Commissioner's Note:

Everyone I need your vote on the trade that was completed this week between my team (Parcell's Jap Plays) and Yzzimians.

I had proposed the trade because I was desperate for a QB and overpaid a bit to get one. The trade was slightly in the advantage of Yzzim but I was OK with it as I was getting the QB I needed.

It was reported today that Palmer would miss todays game and quite possibly more with an injury. The main reason for makeing the trade was for the QB. The trade now looks like Burress/Smith for B.Edwards which is clearly one sided.

I am putting the trade up to a vote to the owners here. If you feel it is too one sided then I can reverse the trade and the players will be returned to their rosters. I would need a majority vote (7) to overturn the deal.

Now I know some of you may say tough crap - injuries happen and whatnot. If that is the case then I would urge that maybe the two owners can work out another deal to compensate for the QB being hurt. Maybe trade Burress back in return for another WR or something.

I will not make any changes until the league decides. I will give it until 11:30pm Saturday next week to make the decision.

Thanks!

Now I don't play FF much, this is my second year playing. Is this normal? It doesn't seem fair, IMO.

Didn't realize it was one of the money leagues which means it's probably not smart to just quit if you have alread paid. The commish should have to live with a trade that lop sided since he proposed it. I can't even begin to think why he would propose that deal.

Anyway, looks like two members have already voted against you according to the other thread. Unfortunately I think you might lose the vote because the others feel the trade makes your team much better than the rest. Since it looks like odds might be stacked against you, maybe make a counter proposal that you get to keep one of the players he traded you and only switch one back. Only do this if it looks like everybody is going to vote to reverse the trade. Since he made a stupid move, he should lose something.

Lastly, if your counter offer isn't accepted and the vote isn't looking good, make sure to let everyone know that you are up for sale if you fall out of contention (i.e. throw games either for some compensation or just to whatch him fall down the standings). Or follow FallenHero's advice and trade your guys away to screw him over.

Actually, the problem appears to be that pending trades were never authorized to be up for league votes in the first place, giving the commissioner sole power over vetos. Had it been up to league vote, it would be on everyone else to review it when it comes up and offer their own input. If I were in that league, and not part of this trade, I would not vote, or at least vote in you favor, as it seems the rules are broken to begin with. It sounds like the commissioner with sole veto power would probably only intervene on trades that hurt his team.

It was his dumb decision and he should live with it. I could bring up the notorious Brian Roberts for Ugeuth Urbina trade to open up our baseball season a few years ago, but those of you that know a little about baseball can imagine how that turned out (...I did quite well )

 

[krunchykrome]

well, i've made some risky moves today....keep in mind that our league has a bit of depth and i'm struggling as my #1 WR Randy Moss is not performing, my QB derek anderson has been horrible, and my RB's Ricky Williams and Darren McFadden have not been doing well either.

I picked up Najeh Davenport this morning; Steeler signed him today.

I also signed Cedric Benson; Bengals signed him today as well. By some miracle, Benson will play well with the few plays he gets and ends up taking Chris Perry's starting job.

 

[BALIstik916]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
well, i've made some risky moves today....keep in mind that our league has a bit of depth and i'm struggling as my #1 WR Randy Moss is not performing, my QB derek anderson has been horrible, and my RB's Ricky Williams and Darren McFadden have not been doing well either.

I picked up Najeh Davenport this morning; Steeler signed him today.

I also signed Cedric Benson; Bengals signed him today as well. By some miracle, Benson will play well with the few plays he gets and ends up taking Chris Perry's starting job.

According to ESPN, Chris Perry is projected to get lots of carries and they still have to teach Benson the system so iono bout that

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
well, i've made some risky moves today....keep in mind that our league has a bit of depth and i'm struggling as my #1 WR Randy Moss is not performing, my QB derek anderson has been horrible, and my RB's Ricky Williams and Darren McFadden have not been doing well either.

I picked up Najeh Davenport this morning; Steeler signed him today.

I also signed Cedric Benson; Bengals signed him today as well. By some miracle, Benson will play well with the few plays he gets and ends up taking Chris Perry's starting job.

Benson is terrible. If one assumes he "knew the system" in Chicago after being tolerated there for 3+ seasons, he sure didn't do anything with that knowledge. Expect 15 carries for 20 yards and a fumble.

 

[wyvrn]

I cannot figure out who to start at my #2 RB position and flex WR/RB position. The choices are:

Willis McGahee (injured but still the starter)
Selvin Young (great production, but Denver rotates 2 guys)
Reggie Williams (disappointing this year)
Joey Galloway (is he finally healthy?)

I am leaning towards Young and McGahee. But if Galloway comes back, he still has big day potential. I am not sure if I should just drop Williams and add another WR, but he is still listed as their #1 starter. I also have Matt Jones as my #2 WR.

 

[Garet Jax]

Hey guys,

My TE Zack Miller is on Bye this week. Who should I pick up off the waiver wire:

Zach Miller
Dante Rosario
Dustin Keller
Visanthe Shiancoe
David Martin
John Carlson
Robert Royal
Alex Smith
Delanie Walker
Randy McMichael
Kevin Boss
John Gilmore
L.J. Smith
Greg Olsen
Casey FitzSimmons
Billy Miller
Desmond Clark
Daniel Graham
Todd Yoder
Reggie Kelly
Nate Jackson
Daniel Wilcox
Marcedes Lewis
Chris Baker
Garrett Mills
Martellus Bennett

I'm leaning towards Greg Olsen or Dante Rosario. Thoughts?

Thanks.

 

[BALIstik916]

Originally posted by: Garet Jax
Hey guys,

My TE Zack Miller is on Bye this week. Who should I pick up off the waiver wire:

Zach Miller
Dante Rosario
Dustin Keller
Visanthe Shiancoe
David Martin
John Carlson
Robert Royal
Alex Smith
Delanie Walker
Randy McMichael
Kevin Boss
John Gilmore
L.J. Smith
Greg Olsen
Casey FitzSimmons
Billy Miller
Desmond Clark
Daniel Graham
Todd Yoder
Reggie Kelly
Nate Jackson
Daniel Wilcox
Marcedes Lewis
Chris Baker
Garrett Mills
Martellus Bennett

I'm leaning towards Greg Olsen or Dante Rosario. Thoughts?

Thanks.

yea i'd go with rosario, they're playing the chiefs this week = lol

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
well, i've made some risky moves today....keep in mind that our league has a bit of depth and i'm struggling as my #1 WR Randy Moss is not performing, my QB derek anderson has been horrible, and my RB's Ricky Williams and Darren McFadden have not been doing well either.

I picked up Najeh Davenport this morning; Steeler signed him today.

I also signed Cedric Benson; Bengals signed him today as well. By some miracle, Benson will play well with the few plays he gets and ends up taking Chris Perry's starting job.

Benson is terrible. If one assumes he "knew the system" in Chicago after being tolerated there for 3+ seasons, he sure didn't do anything with that knowledge. Expect 15 carries for 20 yards and a fumble.

well, it's official, Benson is now my flex starter for week 5

Perry is has a minor injury, but he'll probably play. That means more touches for Benson and an opportunity for him to prove everybody wrong. It's a gamble, but It's a risk I have to take

 

[BRObedoza]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
well, i've made some risky moves today....keep in mind that our league has a bit of depth and i'm struggling as my #1 WR Randy Moss is not performing, my QB derek anderson has been horrible, and my RB's Ricky Williams and Darren McFadden have not been doing well either.

I picked up Najeh Davenport this morning; Steeler signed him today.

I also signed Cedric Benson; Bengals signed him today as well. By some miracle, Benson will play well with the few plays he gets and ends up taking Chris Perry's starting job.

Benson is terrible. If one assumes he "knew the system" in Chicago after being tolerated there for 3+ seasons, he sure didn't do anything with that knowledge. Expect 15 carries for 20 yards and a fumble.

well, it's official, Benson is now my flex starter for week 5

Perry is has a minor injury, but he'll probably play. That means more touches for Benson and an opportunity for him to prove everybody wrong. It's a gamble, but It's a risk I have to take

you're seriously starting Benson this week? even if he were to play, the man is not in any game shape to take a load of snaps. Think about how Rudi Johnson came to the Lions this year. He was limited to 3 carries the week the Lions signed him because he did not know the play book. But at least Rudi Johnson went through training camp and preseason with the Bengals to stay in shape.

Ricky Williams on your bench would be much better. didn't he have over 100 total yards last week? Any decent WR on the waiver wire will get you more points than Benson this week.

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: sleepmachine

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
well, i've made some risky moves today....keep in mind that our league has a bit of depth and i'm struggling as my #1 WR Randy Moss is not performing, my QB derek anderson has been horrible, and my RB's Ricky Williams and Darren McFadden have not been doing well either.

I picked up Najeh Davenport this morning; Steeler signed him today.

I also signed Cedric Benson; Bengals signed him today as well. By some miracle, Benson will play well with the few plays he gets and ends up taking Chris Perry's starting job.

Benson is terrible. If one assumes he "knew the system" in Chicago after being tolerated there for 3+ seasons, he sure didn't do anything with that knowledge. Expect 15 carries for 20 yards and a fumble.

well, it's official, Benson is now my flex starter for week 5

Perry is has a minor injury, but he'll probably play. That means more touches for Benson and an opportunity for him to prove everybody wrong. It's a gamble, but It's a risk I have to take

you're seriously starting Benson this week? even if he were to play, the man is not in any game shape to take a load of snaps. Think about how Rudi Johnson came to the Lions this year. He was limited to 3 carries the week the Lions signed him because he did not know the play book. But at least Rudi Johnson went through training camp and preseason with the Bengals to stay in shape.

If you're that desperate for someone to plug into your flex spot, there has to be a decent WR on the waiver wire you can use.

the best WR available is MIchael Jenkins for the falcons who is projected to score 5 points this week.

I think theres a small chance Benson may see the endzone once or twice.

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: sleepmachine

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
well, i've made some risky moves today....keep in mind that our league has a bit of depth and i'm struggling as my #1 WR Randy Moss is not performing, my QB derek anderson has been horrible, and my RB's Ricky Williams and Darren McFadden have not been doing well either.

I picked up Najeh Davenport this morning; Steeler signed him today.

I also signed Cedric Benson; Bengals signed him today as well. By some miracle, Benson will play well with the few plays he gets and ends up taking Chris Perry's starting job.

Benson is terrible. If one assumes he "knew the system" in Chicago after being tolerated there for 3+ seasons, he sure didn't do anything with that knowledge. Expect 15 carries for 20 yards and a fumble.

well, it's official, Benson is now my flex starter for week 5

Perry is has a minor injury, but he'll probably play. That means more touches for Benson and an opportunity for him to prove everybody wrong. It's a gamble, but It's a risk I have to take

you're seriously starting Benson this week? even if he were to play, the man is not in any game shape to take a load of snaps. Think about how Rudi Johnson came to the Lions this year. He was limited to 3 carries the week the Lions signed him because he did not know the play book. But at least Rudi Johnson went through training camp and preseason with the Bengals to stay in shape.

Ricky Williams on your bench would be much better. didn't he have over 100 total yards last week? Any decent WR on the waiver wire will get you more points than Benson this week.

Ricky Williams is starting for me lol. Here is my team:

Starting:
QB: Kyle Orton
WR: Brandon Marshall
WR: Randy Moss
RB: Ricky Williams
RB: Cedric Benson
Flex (WR/RB): WR Antonio Bryant
TE: Dallas Clark
K: Jason Kasay
Defense: New England

Bench:
QB: Derek Anderson***BYE***
WR: Chansi Stuckey***BYE***
RB: Darren McFadden***BYE***
QB: Brady Quinn***BYE***
RB: Najeh Davenport
Defense: Seattle

 

[BRObedoza]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: sleepmachine

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
well, i've made some risky moves today....keep in mind that our league has a bit of depth and i'm struggling as my #1 WR Randy Moss is not performing, my QB derek anderson has been horrible, and my RB's Ricky Williams and Darren McFadden have not been doing well either.

I picked up Najeh Davenport this morning; Steeler signed him today.

I also signed Cedric Benson; Bengals signed him today as well. By some miracle, Benson will play well with the few plays he gets and ends up taking Chris Perry's starting job.

Benson is terrible. If one assumes he "knew the system" in Chicago after being tolerated there for 3+ seasons, he sure didn't do anything with that knowledge. Expect 15 carries for 20 yards and a fumble.

well, it's official, Benson is now my flex starter for week 5

Perry is has a minor injury, but he'll probably play. That means more touches for Benson and an opportunity for him to prove everybody wrong. It's a gamble, but It's a risk I have to take

you're seriously starting Benson this week? even if he were to play, the man is not in any game shape to take a load of snaps. Think about how Rudi Johnson came to the Lions this year. He was limited to 3 carries the week the Lions signed him because he did not know the play book. But at least Rudi Johnson went through training camp and preseason with the Bengals to stay in shape.

Ricky Williams on your bench would be much better. didn't he have over 100 total yards last week? Any decent WR on the waiver wire will get you more points than Benson this week.

Ricky Williams is starting for me lol. Here is my team:

Starting:
QB: Kyle Orton
WR: Brandon Marshall
WR: Randy Moss
RB: Ricky Williams
RB: Cedric Benson
Flex (WR/RB): WR Antonio Bryant
TE: Dallas Clark
K: Jason Kasay
Defense: New England

Bench:
QB: Derek Anderson***BYE***
WR: Chansi Stuckey***BYE***
RB: Darren McFadden***BYE***
QB: Brady Quinn***BYE***
RB: Najeh Davenport
Defense: Seattle

damn you're in a bad position because of bye's hahah good luck. i actually picked Benson up in a 16-team keeper league on the chance that he may revive his career, as unlikely as that may be.

 

[Stojakapimp]

I have Ronnie Brown, Mewelde Moore, and Roddie White vying for 2 spots in my lineup. Who do you think I should play? I just picked up Mewelde Moore and feel like I should play him before Willie gets healthy again, but Ronnie Brown is coming off of a 5 TD game and Roddie White has been pretty solid. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: wyvrn
I cannot figure out who to start at my #2 RB position and flex WR/RB position. The choices are:

Willis McGahee (injured but still the starter)
Selvin Young (great production, but Denver rotates 2 guys)
Reggie Williams (disappointing this year)
Joey Galloway (is he finally healthy?)

I am leaning towards Young and McGahee. But if Galloway comes back, he still has big day potential. I am not sure if I should just drop Williams and add another WR, but he is still listed as their #1 starter. I also have Matt Jones as my #2 WR.

If the last 2 weeks are any indication, then M'Clain will be getting the majority, if not all of McGahee's touchdowns. Remember the Staley/Bettis conundrum a few seasons ago?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
well, i've made some risky moves today....keep in mind that our league has a bit of depth and i'm struggling as my #1 WR Randy Moss is not performing, my QB derek anderson has been horrible, and my RB's Ricky Williams and Darren McFadden have not been doing well either.

I picked up Najeh Davenport this morning; Steeler signed him today.

I also signed Cedric Benson; Bengals signed him today as well. By some miracle, Benson will play well with the few plays he gets and ends up taking Chris Perry's starting job.

Benson is terrible. If one assumes he "knew the system" in Chicago after being tolerated there for 3+ seasons, he sure didn't do anything with that knowledge. Expect 15 carries for 20 yards and a fumble.

well, it's official, Benson is now my flex starter for week 5

Perry is has a minor injury, but he'll probably play. That means more touches for Benson and an opportunity for him to prove everybody wrong. It's a gamble, but It's a risk I have to take

sucks to be in that position, when you consider that he had 3 years with the Bears and a decent enough O-Line to prove everybody wrong, and he failed week-in, week-out. It wouldn't be so bad if the Bears didn't trade away much better backs, like Thomas Jones, to give Benson the chance to "prove himself"

...call me bitter, if you will

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: sleepmachine

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
well, i've made some risky moves today....keep in mind that our league has a bit of depth and i'm struggling as my #1 WR Randy Moss is not performing, my QB derek anderson has been horrible, and my RB's Ricky Williams and Darren McFadden have not been doing well either.

I picked up Najeh Davenport this morning; Steeler signed him today.

I also signed Cedric Benson; Bengals signed him today as well. By some miracle, Benson will play well with the few plays he gets and ends up taking Chris Perry's starting job.

Benson is terrible. If one assumes he "knew the system" in Chicago after being tolerated there for 3+ seasons, he sure didn't do anything with that knowledge. Expect 15 carries for 20 yards and a fumble.

well, it's official, Benson is now my flex starter for week 5

Perry is has a minor injury, but he'll probably play. That means more touches for Benson and an opportunity for him to prove everybody wrong. It's a gamble, but It's a risk I have to take

you're seriously starting Benson this week? even if he were to play, the man is not in any game shape to take a load of snaps. Think about how Rudi Johnson came to the Lions this year. He was limited to 3 carries the week the Lions signed him because he did not know the play book. But at least Rudi Johnson went through training camp and preseason with the Bengals to stay in shape.

If you're that desperate for someone to plug into your flex spot, there has to be a decent WR on the waiver wire you can use.

the best WR available is MIchael Jenkins for the falcons who is projected to score 5 points this week.

I think theres a small chance Benson may see the endzone once or twice.

projections smrujections.

yahoo, ESPN, or CBS? ...or NFL.com league?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: sleepmachine

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: sleepmachine

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
well, i've made some risky moves today....keep in mind that our league has a bit of depth and i'm struggling as my #1 WR Randy Moss is not performing, my QB derek anderson has been horrible, and my RB's Ricky Williams and Darren McFadden have not been doing well either.

I picked up Najeh Davenport this morning; Steeler signed him today.

I also signed Cedric Benson; Bengals signed him today as well. By some miracle, Benson will play well with the few plays he gets and ends up taking Chris Perry's starting job.

Benson is terrible. If one assumes he "knew the system" in Chicago after being tolerated there for 3+ seasons, he sure didn't do anything with that knowledge. Expect 15 carries for 20 yards and a fumble.

well, it's official, Benson is now my flex starter for week 5

Perry is has a minor injury, but he'll probably play. That means more touches for Benson and an opportunity for him to prove everybody wrong. It's a gamble, but It's a risk I have to take

you're seriously starting Benson this week? even if he were to play, the man is not in any game shape to take a load of snaps. Think about how Rudi Johnson came to the Lions this year. He was limited to 3 carries the week the Lions signed him because he did not know the play book. But at least Rudi Johnson went through training camp and preseason with the Bengals to stay in shape.

Ricky Williams on your bench would be much better. didn't he have over 100 total yards last week? Any decent WR on the waiver wire will get you more points than Benson this week.

Ricky Williams is starting for me lol. Here is my team:

Starting:
QB: Kyle Orton
WR: Brandon Marshall
WR: Randy Moss
RB: Ricky Williams
RB: Cedric Benson
Flex (WR/RB): WR Antonio Bryant
TE: Dallas Clark
K: Jason Kasay
Defense: New England

Bench:
QB: Derek Anderson***BYE***
WR: Chansi Stuckey***BYE***
RB: Darren McFadden***BYE***
QB: Brady Quinn***BYE***
RB: Najeh Davenport
Defense: Seattle

damn you're in a bad position because of bye's hahah good luck. i actually picked Benson up in a 16-team keeper league on the chance that he may revive his career, as unlikely as that may be.

yeah, that blows. I had 5 of my starters on bye last week too that put me at 3-1.

sucks to have to start Ricky Williams these days. At least your WR slots are pretty strong.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
I have Ronnie Brown, Mewelde Moore, and Roddie White vying for 2 spots in my lineup. Who do you think I should play? I just picked up Mewelde Moore and feel like I should play him before Willie gets healthy again, but Ronnie Brown is coming off of a 5 TD game and Roddie White has been pretty solid. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Brown was super strong the first half of last season, and looks like he may be on track for that kind of performance again. One week does make for lopsided performance, but I'd consider him a must start.

 

[Stojakapimp]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
I have Ronnie Brown, Mewelde Moore, and Roddie White vying for 2 spots in my lineup. Who do you think I should play? I just picked up Mewelde Moore and feel like I should play him before Willie gets healthy again, but Ronnie Brown is coming off of a 5 TD game and Roddie White has been pretty solid. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Brown was super strong the first half of last season, and looks like he may be on track for that kind of performance again. One week does make for lopsided performance, but I'd consider him a must start.

Would you do Moore over White then? White is projected to have a big game, but I figure it's easier for a RB than a WR to get points.

 

[zinfamous]

eh, I tend to have better luck with WR for points than I do with backs. They tend to rack up points quickly, but that's assuming they get at least 3 or 4 catches. I'm not familiar with either, but I'd look at the match-up in each case and go from there.

 

[Gibson486]

Westbrook may be our again???? Ah man....looks like its 1-4 for me. I lost Maroney and got nothing too

 

[wyvrn]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: wyvrn
I cannot figure out who to start at my #2 RB position and flex WR/RB position. The choices are:

Willis McGahee (injured but still the starter)
Selvin Young (great production, but Denver rotates 2 guys)
Reggie Williams (disappointing this year)
Joey Galloway (is he finally healthy?)

I am leaning towards Young and McGahee. But if Galloway comes back, he still has big day potential. I am not sure if I should just drop Williams and add another WR, but he is still listed as their #1 starter. I also have Matt Jones as my #2 WR.

If the last 2 weeks are any indication, then M'Clain will be getting the majority, if not all of McGahee's touchdowns. Remember the Staley/Bettis conundrum a few seasons ago?

Would you go Young and Galloway then ?

 

[Deeko]

Hmmmm, I've been offered Larry Fitz and Jon Kitna for Aaron Rodgers and Santonio Holmes

Considering Rodgers is my backup (starter is Romo), good trade for me. I upgrade BIG TIME at WR since I have either Holmes or Driver starting, and a downgrade at backup QB...but meh. I think it works out.

 

[BRObedoza]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Hmmmm, I've been offered Larry Fitz and Jon Kitna for Aaron Rodgers and Santonio Holmes

Considering Rodgers is my backup (starter is Romo), good trade for me. I upgrade BIG TIME at WR since I have either Holmes or Driver starting, and a downgrade at backup QB...but meh. I think it works out.

i'd do it. with Romo starting you will never use Rodgers. Fitz is a significant upgrade over Holmes.

 

[Deeko]

Yea, I think I'm going to - him and I have been sending trade proposals back and forth for a couple of weeks now, I was trying to make a play for Addai, but he doesn't want to give him up (we're starting keepers for the first time this year)..man, the starting HB combo of LT and Addai would have been sweet. Oh well, I'll take LT + the WRs of Fitz and Marshall!