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[JCH13]

and also are winter rated.

Careful...

https://www.tirerack.com/winter/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=125

May be better than M&S, but aren't on the same tier as a winter tire.

 

[ondma]

Careful...

https://www.tirerack.com/winter/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=125

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May be better than M&S, but aren't on the same tier as a winter tire.

I agree. What I was intending to say was that it's better to either get an all weather tire with good overall performance or dedicated winter tires. The WR-G4 scores pretty low in a lot of non-winter areas but still does not offer winter performance of a dedicated winter tire. The better "all weather" tires such as the Goodyear WeatherReady and Michelin Cross Climate score much better overall compared to the WR-G4 and probably are close or equal to it in winter conditions. Some of the better non-winter rated all season tires such as the Continental Pure Contact LS and General Altimax also do relatively well in the snow, probably close to the "all weather" tires.

Edit: The WR-G4 is fairly expensive also.

 

[snoopy7548]

I just bought a set of Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2s for about $96/each and a set of wheels for $65/each. I'll keep wear off of my M+S all-terrains that cost more and have superior winter performance. Seems like a win-win.

Where did you find them for $96 each? I'm shopping for a new set of winter tires/rims as I just bought a new car, and it seems like the best I can do is ~$100 each for Blizzak WS80s (either 215/60R16 or 205/65R16), or ~$115 for the WS90s. I want to get the Nokian R2s but I'm having trouble finding them; seems like they're replaced by the R3s which are $140 each.

 

[JCH13]

Where did you find them for $96 each? I'm shopping for a new set of winter tires/rims as I just bought a new car, and it seems like the best I can do is ~$100 each for Blizzak WS80s (either 215/60R16 or 205/65R16), or ~$115 for the WS90s. I want to get the Nokian R2s but I'm having trouble finding them; seems like they're replaced by the R3s which are $140 each.

Amazon. There were some older date-coded, but perfectly usable, tires in my size of 265/65R17. You might have some luck there.

Edit: https://www.amazon.com/Nokian-NORDM...jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

 

[heymrdj]

The Michelin Cross Climate plus seems to be the class of the field. They actually are rated as a winter tire (3 peak mountain snowflake symbol), but perform very well in all conditions. However, the are pricey, and for some reason not widely available except from tire rack.

Just put the Cross Climate Plus SUV tires on my wife’s new 2019 GMC Terrain Denali. What a funky tread pattern! The handling on wet roads so far has been phenomenal. Waiting to see how good the snow handling is.