Allied 111 piece tool set $28; Amazon rates 5 star

NogginBoink

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Five stars based on one review.

I've tried the cheap Chaiwanese tools before. Try to get off a tough nut/bolt and the socket splits in half.

While it may indeed be appropriate as a first tool set, I wouldn't rely on these tools, just out of sheer skepticism.
 

jitterysquid

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As the OP stated, Allied Tools do carry a lifetime warranty like Craftsman, Vermont American, and just
about every other branded tools manufacturer. I picked up a display model many years ago from Sharper
Image for not much and was sad when the ratcheting driver handle mechanism broke. I called them up
and they shipped me a new one that day - it took no more than 5 minutes of my time and they didn't give
me any hassle or charge me a dime for the shipping/handling. Again, most tool companies do this but
most people don't bother to get a replacement when a tool breaks.

That being said, the tools themselves are average quality, perfect for around-the-house chores. The
hammer is probably the worst, being held together with glue and a plastic wedge. Judging by the picture
the new set appears to have ditched the hammer anyway. Also judging by the picture, the ~6" extension
for the socket handle isn't something you usually get, and can be ever so useful.

If you have no tools other than a few screwdrivers then by all means, this is a great deal. It's also good
for figuring out which tools you actually use, and getting better quality replacements. There's no sense in
getting a 9,000 piece socket set hand-forged by Vulcan himself if you use less than 10 of the sizes.
 

coomarlin

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My dad got me a 100 piece set of Allied tools last year for xmas and they are garbage. Really poor quality. The ratchet is stripped after 1 year of sparing use. I own snapon, mac and craftsman tools. I think the best bang for the money is craftsman. They are not as good as Mac tools, but they are not priced anywhere near them either. If you watch the sales at sears you can get a set of craftsman tools for close to what you'd pay for those garbage Allied tools. And if a tool ever breaks you can just take it to Sears and they'll give you a new one. No questions asked.
 

Tal

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We got a referral link by a poster joined this month (we're 5 days in) and the story about the tool quality is verified by another poster who joined in the last five days and this is their first post. Smells fishy.
 

TrentSteel

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Originally posted by: coomarlin
My dad got me a 100 piece set of Allied tools last year for xmas and they are garbage. Really poor quality. The ratchet is stripped after 1 year of sparing use. I own snapon, mac and craftsman tools. I think the best bang for the money is craftsman. They are not as good as Mac tools, but they are not priced anywhere near them either. If you watch the sales at sears you can get a set of craftsman tools for close to what you'd pay for those garbage Allied tools. And if a tool ever breaks you can just take it to Sears and they'll give you a new one. No questions asked.

Next to Snapon or Mac, which have the professional in mind, anything is going to look like absolute crap. There's just no comparison.

Something like this might be all right to have around for emergencies, but I don't think I'd shell out $30 for it. And as someone pointed out, if you buy in-store, you can exchange defective tools for new ones much more quickly.
 

abaez

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I bought this type of allied set almost two years ago on another amazon hot deal. I have to agree that the set if very poor quality as well.
 

davidwiz

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I bought one of these for my son for repairing his bike. The qualitity is poor to fair. It may be a good kit to give to a 12 year old, for his first set of tools. Homeowners should look elsewhere.
 

C'DaleRider

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Cheap, junk tools are no favor for anyone. They don't fit well, chew up bolts and nuts, and make the user hate using tools. It's like using a POS computer.....guess it's better than nothing, but in the end, frustration sets in and one may give up the hobby/use.
 

J1600B

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Originally posted by: l2adtech
those people who are just moving in to their first home and don't have a ton of tools yet.

Only Amazon review "This set is especially good as a gift for those people who are just moving in to their first home and don't have a ton of tools yet."


 

coomarlin

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Originally posted by: J1600B
Originally posted by: l2adtech
those people who are just moving in to their first home and don't have a ton of tools yet.

Only Amazon review "This set is especially good as a gift for those people who are just moving in to their first home and don't have a ton of tools yet."


LOL. The thread title states "Amazon rates 5 stars!!" Looks like l2adtech is probably the guy that posted that review on Amazon.
 

jitterysquid

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Sigh. No, I'm not a shill for someone who uses referral links. When I said "average quality" I meant "better than using your fingers". A set of tools, no matter how crappy is better than trying to use no tool or the wrong tool for a task. No, I would not purchase an Allied Tool again. Do I think the set is worth $25? Yes, in the circumstance where I have no tools and only $25 to spend. If I had 4 times that much I would get the most basic Craftsman tool set ($60, 19pc) a small set of metric drive sockets for the driver in the 19pc kit ($10), a good multipurpose hammer ($20), and some allen and torx wrenches ($10). It starts to add up quickly and that's just for basic, around-the-apartment stuff - not counting anything for making a hole or cutting something to length.

Sorry for the rant (and only my second post), but sometimes people read the HD forum because they don't have very much money.

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Craftsman really can't be beat, and is all that is really necessary unless your livelihood depends on your tools.

Sears will freaking replace any broken craftsman tool no matter wth you did to it, and how far are you ever from a Sears? To me you can't beat that.

I am really starting to like Sears. They also are supporting thier employees that are/were called into active service very well.
 

coomarlin

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Sears had a 96 piece craftsman set that had basically the same thing as the allied set for $39.99 just two weeks ago. The $10 extra dollars would've been well spent. If you keep your eye out Sears sells tool sets for half price all the time.
 

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Originally posted by: FranksAndBeans
Craftsman really can't be beat, and is all that is really necessary unless your livelihood depends on your tools.

Sears will freaking replace any broken craftsman tool no matter wth you did to it, and how far are you ever from a Sears? To me you can't beat that.

I am really starting to like Sears. They also are supporting thier employees that are/were called into active service very well.

When I was a kid, I used a Craftsman wrench as a tire-iron jack handle.

Bent it in a way that no one could mistake as defective when used for general use.

Sears replaced it for my Dad with no questions asked.
 

fzj80

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When I was a kid, I used a Craftsman wrench as a tire-iron jack handle.

Bent it in a way that no one could mistake as defective when used for general use.

Sears replaced it for my Dad with no questions asked.

Yep, Sears is good about that, and why? Because it makes you want to buy more Craftsman tools, very simple marketing, and it works, very cool.

I've been fairly happy with some Stanley tools I've seen, better than average quality, replacing isn't as easy as Craftsman, but really nobody is as easy as Craftsman, even SnapOn or Mac, not as easy as finding one of the 8-trillion Sears stores.

Out...

 

DonCrescas

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Originally posted by: coomarlin
Sears had a 96 piece craftsman set that had basically the same thing as the allied set for $39.99 just two weeks ago. The $10 extra dollars would've been well spent. If you keep your eye out Sears sells tool sets for half price all the time.

No, that was an off brand set sold by sears. It was not craftsman. Sears sells both.
 

Zontor

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It's been my experience that you should stay away from cheap tools, even if they have a lifetime warranty (used to be a mechanic and machinist). Why?

1] They are usually stamped and not forged. The softer metal gets mis-shapen by use and can damage nuts, bolts, etc. Then you're off to either by some easy-outs or better tools to remove the damaged nut, bolt, what have you.

2] Lifetime warranty isn't worth crap if it breaks at midnight and you need the tool. I don't know about you, but I don't want to wait a few days or weeks for a new tool (expecially if something on my car breaks in the middle of nowhere or my sink is spouting water all over the kitchen).

Want cheap but good tools? Consider going to a pawn shop and buying used Craftsman, Snap-on, etc. Takes a bit more time to build up a collection, they may not all 'look' the same, but at least you can rely on them. They also still have a lifetime warranty that you can usually invoke locally.

 

coomarlin

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Originally posted by: DonCrescas
Originally posted by: coomarlin
Sears had a 96 piece craftsman set that had basically the same thing as the allied set for $39.99 just two weeks ago. The $10 extra dollars would've been well spent. If you keep your eye out Sears sells tool sets for half price all the time.

No, that was an off brand set sold by sears. It was not craftsman. Sears sells both.


Thats BS. It was this set
Here

Those are real craftsman tools.
 

kgouldsk

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If you want good, inexpensive kits like these, go to Costco. I've bought several sets of tools from there, primarily Crescent, and you get great kits for $30-$50. I do a lot of work on my hotrod, and they're fine. Mac? No. Craftsman? No. Snap-On? No. But far from being junk, nice finish, excellent durability. No comparison to the "made in china" crap you usually see. Check them out.
 

Rumpltzer

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Originally posted by: Zontor
Want cheap but good tools? Consider going to a pawn shop and buying used Craftsman, Snap-on, etc. Takes a bit more time to build up a collection, they may not all 'look' the same, but at least you can rely on them. They also still have a lifetime warranty that you can usually invoke locally.

Interestingly, this is how I built up about half my collection of Craftsman tools! I spent my summer vacation working in the Orlando area, and they seem to have a LOT of pawn shops with a lot of loose tools in that area... more than I've seen in the other places I've lived since then.

Generally, I just bought the tools from the pawn shop and used them. When a ratchet gave out or I sheared a wrench (yeah, it happened!), though, I'd just trade it in. No questions asked.

I dunno if I saved a lot in the long-run. I mean, if you've got a hundreds of dollars on hand, I think you can buy large, complete sets from Sears and save a bundle. If you just need a few pieces or you haven't got the cash, though, the pawn shop route works out well.
 

ChurchOfSubgenius

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Originally posted by: kgouldsk
If you want good, inexpensive kits like these, go to Costco. I've bought several sets of tools from there, primarily Crescent, and you get great kits for $30-$50. I do a lot of work on my hotrod, and they're fine. Mac? No. Craftsman? No. Snap-On? No. But far from being junk, nice finish, excellent durability. No comparison to the "made in china" crap you usually see. Check them out.


Agreed, I love my set of Crescents
 

NogginBoink

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Originally posted by: Tal
We got a referral link by a poster joined this month (we're 5 days in) and the story about the tool quality is verified by another poster who joined in the last five days and this is their first post. Smells fishy.

I don't think it sounds fishy.

I think the original poster posted what is a good deal for many people. Several of us here are just saying this deal isn't for us.

I2adtech, keep posting deals and don't let this get you down. While I wouldn't jump on this, many people would love a deal like this.

Edit: On the other hand, posting referral links here will get you in disfavor real quick.
 

Zontor

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Originally posted by: Rumpltzer
Originally posted by: Zontor Want cheap but good tools? Consider going to a pawn shop and buying used Craftsman, Snap-on, etc. Takes a bit more time to build up a collection, they may not all 'look' the same, but at least you can rely on them. They also still have a lifetime warranty that you can usually invoke locally.
Interestingly, this is how I built up about half my collection of Craftsman tools! I spent my summer vacation working in the Orlando area, and they seem to have a LOT of pawn shops with a lot of loose tools in that area... more than I've seen in the other places I've lived since then. Generally, I just bought the tools from the pawn shop and used them. When a ratchet gave out or I sheared a wrench (yeah, it happened!), though, I'd just trade it in. No questions asked. I dunno if I saved a lot in the long-run. I mean, if you've got a hundreds of dollars on hand, I think you can buy large, complete sets from Sears and save a bundle. If you just need a few pieces or you haven't got the cash, though, the pawn shop route works out well.

I was picking up loose sockets in a bin for .25 each. Yeah, you had to sort to find the good brands, but it wasn't too bad if you discount your time.

I'm not saying the good brands don't break, it is just not as likely they will. I'm not, by any stretch, knocking buying a bundle of tools all at once, I just think you should pay a little more for quality. My 2 cents....
 
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