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EliteRetard

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I plan on trying most of the popular/classic ones eventually.

Should the first episode of brotherhood start with no introduction and be about an ice alchemist? Because the one I've found is and I'm confused. It looks correct but I have no context.

I looked, that does appear to be the first episode.
The original series starts off in a similar "future tense" kind of way.
I think the objective is to get you interested in figuring out whats going on.
In the original they "flash back" and explain things along the way.
 

Matthiasa

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I plan on trying most of the popular/classic ones eventually.

Should the first episode of brotherhood start with no introduction and be about an ice alchemist? Because the one I've found is and I'm confused. It looks correct but I have no context.

Yeah that is correct, the next episode gives actual background of it.

Watching episodes 3-6 (maybe 9 for a little more additional information) of the first series goes into their background quite a bit more though in way that I recall also being consistent with brotherhood's story.
 

EliteRetard

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It always amazes me how massively horrible american voice actors are in dubbed anime.
 

Aikouka

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It always amazes me how massively horrible american voice actors are in dubbed anime.

I started watching subs about 13 years ago with Trigun, and at this point, it's just weird to hear English voices in anime. I have the same problem in games that have obvious Japanese art styles. I've seen a few anime that had acceptable dubs, but most of them just don't seem to feel right.
 

Bubbleawsome

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Yeah, I'm watching dubbed, but I may go back to subbed. Some of the actors (childhood friend girl, little brother, main general guy) have good voices for the part, some are just ok, but I'm not sure I'll be able to keep the older brother's voice.
Is there any backstory on why the younger brother wasn't tested for alchemy?

Finished episodes 1 & 2 but I think I'm done for now, it's 3am.
 

Matthiasa

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I believe that gets covered later in brotherhood, but I know it is covered in the episodes from the first one I listed.

It always amazes me how massively horrible american voice actors are in dubbed anime.


Eh for the more popular ones it isn't that bad, no more so than would be done during normal acting at least. Now I won't say the translations are always correct, although usually close, but that applies to subbed versions as well.

Also it is possible the voice acting could be just as bad in Japaneses but unless one actually knows the language enough one wouldn't notice.

I think one thinking English dubs are bad or not is based on if they first started watching anime either subbed or dubbed rather than any one series actually being constantly bad when professionally dubbed. Fan dubs are a whole other story though...
 
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A Casual Fitz

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I started watching subs about 13 years ago with Trigun, and at this point, it's just weird to hear English voices in anime. I have the same problem in games that have obvious Japanese art styles. I've seen a few anime that had acceptable dubs, but most of them just don't seem to feel right.

Except Dragon Ball Z. Though I was a little kid when I watched that.
 

CZroe

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Not an anime fan but I gotta say that Akira and Memories were awesome. Most of the anime tropes in Akira were new and innovative back then, so don't blame it. Blame Dragon Ball Z.

Most of Cowboy Bebop was good but it had it's fair share of suck episodes.

The first Evangelion series was tolerable as more Godzilla mech porn if you are into that.

Miyazaki is over-rated.

All the Slayers and Ah My Goddess and FLCL and Death Note and Naruto fans can TPAD.
 

Charmonium

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The first season of Death Note was quite good. The second season was ok but some parts were over acted, at least in the dubbed version.

edit: if you want something really bizarre and different, check out Speedgrapher. Probably the single most amazing anime I've seen.
 

EliteRetard

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*snip*

Also it is possible the voice acting could be just as bad in Japaneses but unless one actually knows the language enough one wouldn't notice.

I think one thinking English dubs are bad or not is based on if they first started watching anime either subbed or dubbed rather than any one series actually being constantly bad when professionally dubbed. Fan dubs are a whole other story though...

Even very early into anime I knew right away that English dubbed was terrible. It's like they got women to do tough male voices and children to do full grown adults. It's like they don't even try to match a voice actor to the character, and just grab the cheapest person they can find to read a script. There was a very clear and obvious disconnect between the characters I was seeing vs hearing. It's a problem in most English dubs I've attempted to watch.

Since then I have also been to Japan, and met some professional voice actors there. It's a real and respectable profession over there (and they go to school for it). Even when speaking a non native language (like English) it was obvious those voice actors were just way better. I have a friend here who also speaks Japanese. We both agree that most dubs are so bad as to be entirely un-watchable.
 

EliteRetard

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hey they gotta have jobs too

I strongly suspect that there are almost no professional voice actors in america. If there are, they are very rarely used. And if used, rarely are they properly selected for the character they are supposed to voice.
 

Matthiasa

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If judging solely to pitch maybe... but that applies to US made animations as well including popular ones. That however says little of its actual quality though, just that it may not be what you expect.

Have you never talk to a person where there was some form of disconnect in what you expected and how they actually sounded?
 

Charmonium

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If judging solely to pitch maybe... but that applies to US made animations as well including popular ones. That however says little of its actual quality though, just that it may not be what you expect.

Have you never talk to a person where there was some form of disconnect in what you expected and how they actually sounded?
Mike Tyson
 

Aikouka

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Even very early into anime I knew right away that English dubbed was terrible. It's like they got women to do tough male voices and children to do full grown adults.

Using women to do male voices isn't that uncommon in the original Japanese either. I had a friend tell me that he couldn't watch Dragon Ball Z in Japanese because of Goku's voice. I tried to explain that the point was to make him sound childish, because that's how he acts, but he had none of it. :\
 

EliteRetard

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Using women to do male voices isn't that uncommon in the original Japanese either. I had a friend tell me that he couldn't watch Dragon Ball Z in Japanese because of Goku's voice. I tried to explain that the point was to make him sound childish, because that's how he acts, but he had none of it. :\

It's not just the gender...they don't use the right inflections etc and it all adds up to just sounding totally wrong. It's like watching a space shuttle launch, but instead of the roar of engines you hear a toilet flushing. It might be funny once (perhaps you can ignore it) but it doesn't work for me when I'm trying to enjoy a show.
 

CZroe

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Using women to do male voices isn't that uncommon in the original English either. I had a friend tell me that he couldn't watch The Simpsons In English because of Bart's voice. I tried to explain that the point was to make him sound childish, because that's how he acts, but he had none of it. :\
FTFY
 

sdifox

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If judging solely to pitch maybe... but that applies to US made animations as well including popular ones. That however says little of its actual quality though, just that it may not be what you expect.

Have you never talk to a person where there was some form of disconnect in what you expected and how they actually sounded?

Sandra Bullock as Scarlet Overkill is just wrong.
 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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What's the consensus on Clannad here? I love that sappy virgin love story shit.
I like it and After Story.
That and Kanon, Air, Ef - A Tale of Memories, Ef - A Tale of Melodies, Angel Beats, Nagi no Asukara and Koi to Senkyou to Chocolate.

Would rank Tamayura, Tamayura - Hitotose and Tamayura - More Aggressive highly as well (sucker for the OP/EDs by Maaya Sakamoto and Megumi Nakajima)
 

ZYFER

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I know that Bart Simpson is voiced by a female, but Bart Simpson is also a kid. The person's complaint was that adult Goku sounded like a kid.

Even with that, you might tolerate, the voice of King Kai... nope. You can see the character yelling but you hear a calm old man speaking. I know he is the original guy and he is actually old, but he apparently just can't do it anymore apparently. It is like some old musicians still trying to hit a pitch they just can't hit anymore.
 
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