Alright.. BUDGET CUT...What to do with $15K~?

[Rent]

Originally posted by: LOLyourFace

Originally posted by: slycat

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski and in the end, it's still a ford.

yes, but its juicy and the drippings are good...

ppl should stop saying that when they don't know what they're talking about Ford engineering only applies to the automatic transmission, nothing else. And I'm getting the manual

Not quite. The Mazda 6 is nothing more than a Contour SVT with different body panels. There are minor differences, but in the end, you're driving a Ford. And a damn good one at that.

 

[ryzmah]

Originally posted by: Rent

Originally posted by: LOLyourFace

Originally posted by: slycat

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski and in the end, it's still a ford.

yes, but its juicy and the drippings are good...

ppl should stop saying that when they don't know what they're talking about Ford engineering only applies to the automatic transmission, nothing else. And I'm getting the manual

Not quite. The Mazda 6 is nothing more than a Contour SVT with different body panels. There are minor differences, but in the end, you're driving a Ford. And a damn good one at that.

Could you explain that? I don't see the connection other than the 6 filling the gap in the market left behind. It has 11.5" more rear legroom, which is a huge difference for my needs.

 

[LOLyourFace]

bump for the edit.

 

[Spoooon]

I wouldn't bother with replying to the guy. Who knows how far it would end up going.

 

[StageLeft]

No don't do it because frankly I didn't see much wrong with his original emails. Sure it's not so professional to downtalk other dealers, but then what do you really expect him to say? He knows, as do you, that these cars are a hot sell right now and I think he could quickly tell that your super-lowball offer probably meant you weren't all that serious about buying what he can most likely easily sell for quite a bit more. I'd leave it. In fact I'd take the car at the price he's offering Really based on his offer of $20,900 you should have said something like "Drop it down to $20,500 and I'll be in tomorrow to sign the papers". That would have gotten him rolling, but $19k flat is so far below what he can get for the car that at this point he just feels he's been wasting time with you...

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: LOLyourFace
what do u think? should i do it? :Q

No. You'd just be playing his game, if he even has one.

 

[LOLyourFace]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
No don't do it because frankly I didn't see much wrong with his original emails. Sure it's not so professional to downtalk other dealers, but then what do you really expect him to say? He knows, as do you, that these cars are a hot sell right now and I think he could quickly tell that your super-lowball offer probably meant you weren't all that serious about buying what he can most likely easily sell for quite a bit more. I'd leave it. In fact I'd take the car at the price he's offering

I would Love to if money wasn't a issue.. *sigh*.. my idealistic budget is $17K.. it's only $3000 more yet $3000 is so much.. ahhh the dilemma... alksflekj

 

[Static911]

I feel for you man. I noticed this car industry is all about ego and those who are humble get ahead.

This happened to me about 3 weeks ago. A local BMW dealership insulted me by saying I was incapable of affording a 2003 M5 because I was "thinking about it". This punk kept bothering me day and night for one week straight. I did not want to tell to bug off and let me think about it. Of course, after insulting me, the salesman asked what car I was looking for and I told him a car that is only exists in your dreams.

Ethan

 

[rudeguy]

that salesman sounds pretty typical for car salesmen...what it really breaks down to with cars is getting the best price...so go with whoever gives you the best deal...when I bought my cougar I locked in a pretty good deal with one dealer, then pricematched him to a different dealer who gave me an extra grand off the first price...as far as the salesguy being a jerk, i recommend signing him up for some emails informing him of the wonders of working from home, the wonderful loan rates out right now etc.

 

[crypticlogin]

Don't bother replying. You're not going to get anywhere near your price range and even if you did, it'd be with some financing you're not going to go for.

Face it: you're looking at a car that's in decent demand, selling for close to list, when it's not even the middle of the month yet. Any sane dealership knows what they can get for it, and they know you won't be the one giving it to them.

 

[Antisocial Virge]

i recommend signing him up for some emails informing him of the wonders of working from home, the wonderful loan rates out right now etc.

j.winklepleck@attbi.com

I never even took what he said as a insult *shrug* lighten up.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: LOLyourFace

Originally posted by: Skoorb
No don't do it because frankly I didn't see much wrong with his original emails. Sure it's not so professional to downtalk other dealers, but then what do you really expect him to say? He knows, as do you, that these cars are a hot sell right now and I think he could quickly tell that your super-lowball offer probably meant you weren't all that serious about buying what he can most likely easily sell for quite a bit more. I'd leave it. In fact I'd take the car at the price he's offering

I would Love to if money wasn't a issue.. *sigh*.. my idealistic budget is $17K.. it's only $3000 more yet $3000 is so much.. ahhh the dilemma... alksflekj

How about a Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec-V? (you may need to enter your ZIP).

 

[Zenmervolt]

As someone who has been through the sale of a few cars on the private market (family and friends and my own car), I can honestly say that there is very little worse than that "low-baller". You think you can get a car for 1,000 below invoice with the destination charge included? What have you been smoking? Mazda won't be offering any dealer incentives yet, so in this case the dealer will be getting the car at invoice price. And you should not be financing at the dealer, finance through a bank, better people to deal with.

ZV

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Rent

Originally posted by: LOLyourFace

Originally posted by: slycat

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski and in the end, it's still a ford.

yes, but its juicy and the drippings are good...

ppl should stop saying that when they don't know what they're talking about Ford engineering only applies to the automatic transmission, nothing else. And I'm getting the manual

Not quite. The Mazda 6 is nothing more than a Contour SVT with different body panels. There are minor differences, but in the end, you're driving a Ford. And a damn good one at that.

the only thing ford about that car is the duratec 6, which mazda engineers have heavily modified. the chassis has NOTHING to do with the mondeo.

and while the dealer shouldn't have insulted you, you did make a damn ridiculous offer. i think you shouldn't get into it and should go to a different dealer.

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge

i recommend signing him up for some emails informing him of the wonders of working from home, the wonderful loan rates out right now etc.

j.winklepleck@attbi.com

I never even took what he said as a insult *shrug* lighten up.

lol..nice touch...I thought you were asking if you should mess with the guy

 

[Babbles]

I have to agree with those that think you may be close to nuts if you think you will get a brand new, in-demand care for $1k under invoice.

I believe the salesman was doing allright for handling business via e-mail. I think he would have been more apt to deal if it was face to face, or hell even over the phone.

He has no reason to sell a car for under invoice if he can probably push it for over invoice to somebody else.

 

[Pepsi90919]

send your email, CC it to the manager, and go shop elsewhere and consider other makes besides mazda and ford.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919and consider other makes besides mazda and ford.

bigot

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919and consider other makes besides mazda and ford.

bigot

ass-flame.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919and consider other makes besides mazda and ford.

bigot

ass-flame.

hater

 

[StageLeft]

I think looking at 17k as your realistic ceiling you may have to downgrade your choice of cars. Altima, accord, 6...you won't be getting any of these new unless you get exceptionally lucky.

 

[Sundog]

I didn't take what he replied to you as an insult.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919and consider other makes besides mazda and ford.

bigot

ass-flame.

hater

The only thing worse than being ignorant is not knowing how ignorant you are. That's Mr. ElFenix's problem. And that's why I feel compelled to say something about treacherous schizophrenics.

There is a format he should follow for his next literary endeavor. It involves a topic sentence and supporting facts. Even though he gives flattering titles to his natural distempers, he is too meddlesome to read the writing on the wall. This writing warns that his factotums seem to be caught up in their need for enemies. If, after hearing facts like that, you still believe that all any child needs is a big dose of television every day, then there is unquestionably no hope for you.

Didn't ElFenix tell his slaves that he wants to distort the facts? Did he first give any thought to what would happen if he did? Of course, that question is ridiculous -- as ridiculous as his obscene personal attacks. My prediction that he would break down ages-old institutions and customs came true so quickly, so brutally, so horribly, that even I was stunned by the magnitude and viciousness of it all. He may bring this battle to a fever pitch right after he reads this letter. Let him. One day, I will exemplify the principles of honor, duty, loyalty, and courage. ElFenix is perfectly willing to show his embarrassingly poor reasoning and warped ethics in print. Don't make the mistake of thinking otherwise. ElFenix does, and that's why he is an opportunist. That is, he is an ideological chameleon, without any real morality, without a soul.

It should be stressed that his proxies all look like him, think like him, act like him, and provide misguided conspiracies with the necessary asylum to take root and spread, just like ElFenix does. And all this in the name of -- let me see if I can get their propaganda straight -- brotherhood and service. Ha! Although the Gospel According to ElFenix says that people are pawns to be used and manipulated, I claim that those of us who are too lazy or disinterested to deal with the relevant facts have no right to complain when he and his trained seals parlay personal and political conspiracy theories into a multimillion-dollar financial empire. It must be stated quite categorically that I could make a long argument for the idea that his refusal to admit the obvious -- that he has no idea what he's doing -- must rank as one of the most ethically bankrupt disinformation campaigns in history. Yet he says it is within his legal right to control your bank account, your employment, your personal safety, and your mind. Whether or not he indeed has such a right, ElFenix's helpers are unified under a common goal. That goal is to take a condescending cheap shot at a person that most biased, lousy psychics will never be in a position to condescend to.

Even if our society had no social problems at all, we could still say that ElFenix's threats manifest themselves in two phases. Phase one: impede the free flow of information. Phase two: grant a free ride to the undeserving. It has been brought to my attention that anyone who takes ElFenix's virulent prevarications seriously has obviously not spent much time around what I call obtrusive, unruly anarchists. While this is true, ElFenix's pouty expedients are in full flower, and their poisonous petals of antagonism are blooming all around us. This is not to say that ElFenix frequently takes an accepted moral principle, adopts it as his own, and then accuses mainstream society of violating that principle. It is merely to point out that ElFenix is essentially describing a situation that does not exist. The best example of this, culled from many, would have to be the time ElFenix tried to fan the flames of pessimism into a planet-spanning inferno. Just because I understand his ebullitions doesn't mean I agree with them.

We must stop his encroachments on our heritage. Only then can a society free of his fickle policies blossom forth from the roots of the past. And only then will people come to understand that he thinks it would be a great idea to increase alienation and delinquency among our young people. Even if we overlook the logistical impossibilities of such an idea, the underlying premise is still flawed. ElFenix can't attack my ideas, so he attacks me. It could be worse, I suppose. He could jawbone aimlessly.

If some people are offended by my mentioning that his "agitate for indoctrination programs in local schools" mentality is so pervasive that I feel like I'm going to wander around in a quagmire of self-pity and depression, then so be it. For those of you out there who don't know what I'm talking about, let me give you a quick explanation: this is not Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, where the state would be eager to take control of a nation and suck it dry. Not yet, at least. But we need to look beyond the most immediate and visible problems with him. We need to look at what is behind these problems and understand that if he succeeds in his attempt to deny minorities a cultural voice, it'll have to be over my dead body. Griping about ElFenix will not make him stop trying to turn a deaf ear to need and suffering. But even if it did, he would just find some other way to make life less pleasant for us. Don't get me wrong; his memoirs have a distinctly pestiferous tone. But I'll tell you what we need to do about all the craziness he is mongering. We need to lend a helping hand.

Ancient Greek dramatists discerned a peculiar virtue in being tragic. ElFenix would do well to realize that they never discerned any virtue in being dastardly. It's unfortunate that he has no real education. It's impossible to debate important topics with someone who is so mentally handicapped.

Oh, and one more thing. We must reach out to people with the message that the most scummy pests I've ever seen simply pass through this world sowing the seeds of evil. We must alert people of that. We must educate them. We must inspire them. And we must encourage them to challenge the present and enrich the future. Besides being completely offensive and abusive, ElFenix's remonstrations are seriously defamatory, by which I mean that if we don't soon tell ElFenix to stop what he's doing, he will proceed with his cuckoo bons mots, considerably emboldened by our lack of resistance. We will have tacitly given ElFenix our permission to do so.

One might think that he ducks the issue of post-structuralism by using words and phrases so vague and subject to interpretation that they have no true meaning at all, and this is, not surprisingly, the case. While he might not go to great lengths to conceal his true aims and mislead the public per se, ElFenix's intent is to prevent us from asking questions. He doesn't want the details checked. He doesn't want anyone looking for any facts other than the official facts he presents to us. I wonder if this is because most of his "facts" are false. Plan to join ElFenix's camp? Be sure to check your conscience at the door. Now that you've read this letter, let me challenge you, the reader, not just to help me create a world in which animalism, neocolonialism, and voyeurism are all but forgotten, but also to educate others about what I've written.

 

[ElFenix]

nice find-replace job there

why the hatred of mazda? whats wrong with it? they're just as reliable as any other japanese manufacturer.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
nice find-replace job there

why the hatred of mazda? whats wrong with it? they're just as reliable as any other japanese manufacturer.

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i didn't say anything about hating mazda.