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minendo

Elite Member
Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Originally posted by: minendo
There is absolutely no reason why they should reduce the fine. Instead they should pull your license.

for some reason you never have anything decent to say
Why in the hell would I have something decent to say? He was doing 110mph in a 65mph zone. He is not only a risk to himself, but a risk to others. Additionally, it is asshat drivers like this that keep insurance rates so high.
 

yukichigai

Diamond Member
Apr 23, 2003
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Originally posted by: Ilmater
Show me one report that ties number of auto accidents to speed. You won't. Accidents happen because of inattention. That's it.
Point of clarification: collisions and f%$#ups happen because of inattention. Accidents -- rare as they are -- happen because of freak chance.
 

ThisIsMatt

Banned
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: Stefan
At first when I got to the thread I thought I've done 100 in a 60... Then I realized this was in MPH!

In my experience, at 110MPH (180 KPH), vehicles feel like at the slightest turn of the wheel or a gust of wind will throw the vehicle off the road. It is just not a safe speed unless you are driving a car that is designed to handle speeds beyond that.

I've tried flooring 2 vehicles in my life. Once was in a Jeep Grand Cherokee, I hit 182 and decided it was too scary and dangerous to go any faster. The 2nd time was in a Saturn (something or other), I hit 170 and the car felt like it was being ripped apart. Both times I was stupid for driving that fast because if anyone had been comming the other way, I don't think I was in control to prevent an accident if something happened.
my accord feels perfectly normal past 110...
 

acemcmac

Lifer
Mar 31, 2003
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Originally posted by: Stefan
At first when I got to the thread I thought I've done 100 in a 60... Then I realized this was in MPH!

In my experience, at 110MPH (180 KPH), vehicles feel like at the slightest turn of the wheel or a gust of wind will throw the vehicle off the road. It is just not a safe speed unless you are driving a car that is designed to handle speeds beyond that.

I've tried flooring 2 vehicles in my life. Once was in a Jeep Grand Cherokee, I hit 182 and decided it was too scary and dangerous to go any faster. The 2nd time was in a Saturn (something or other), I hit 170 and the car felt like it was being ripped apart. Both times I was stupid for driving that fast because if anyone had been comming the other way, I don't think I was in control to prevent an accident if something happened.

you are talking about KPH with your saturn at 170? right?

Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Bump. I swear to god I want someone to start with me :|

STFU. You call others out yet you are even more useless than all of them combined.

oh, you see harm in pointing out to people what flaming hippocrates these people are? I don't see what gives anyone the right to judge that he should have had his licence taken away. YOU WERENT THERE, GET OVER IT! This is not a game server, you are not admin, you are not the alpha and the omega all knowing. I should have called you on that right away for just blanketly declaring that he should have his licence taken away!

I would be no better if I said that because you (do/do not) belive in (abortion/god/racial clensing/darwin) that you should go to hell. I'm just pointing out that in-my-not-so-humble-opinion, you all need to take one step down from the pedistal...
 

BigToque

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: Stefan
At first when I got to the thread I thought I've done 100 in a 60... Then I realized this was in MPH!

In my experience, at 110MPH (180 KPH), vehicles feel like at the slightest turn of the wheel or a gust of wind will throw the vehicle off the road. It is just not a safe speed unless you are driving a car that is designed to handle speeds beyond that.

I've tried flooring 2 vehicles in my life. Once was in a Jeep Grand Cherokee, I hit 182 and decided it was too scary and dangerous to go any faster. The 2nd time was in a Saturn (something or other), I hit 170 and the car felt like it was being ripped apart. Both times I was stupid for driving that fast because if anyone had been comming the other way, I don't think I was in control to prevent an accident if something happened.

you are talking about KPH with your saturn at 170? right?

Lol... most def KPH. It's no Porsche At 171 the limiter kicked in and dropped me down to 160.
 

edro

Lifer
Apr 5, 2002
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Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Originally posted by: minendo
There is absolutely no reason why they should reduce the fine. Instead they should pull your license.
for some reason you never have anything decent to say
Why in the hell would I have something decent to say? He was doing 110mph in a 65mph zone. He is not only a risk to himself, but a risk to others. Additionally, it is asshat drivers like this that keep insurance rates so high.
Yeah, minendo is the king of the pessemistic nef...

And speeders don't cause high insurance rates... also please don't give me a worthless correlation of speeding to wrecks, because it is bullshit.

After every accident:
Cop: And how fast were you going?
Offender: Umm... like 57-58.
Cop: Ok, so you were speeding... lets add that to the national statistics of wrecks.

(my point is that everyone speeds, so OF COURSE, all wrecks are going to be associated with speeding.
 

Yo Ma Ma

Lifer
Jan 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: kermalou
i want an update...

Yeah, me too! but LOLyourFace last visited on 06/17/2004 12:58 PM, maybe he went right from court to the cell :shocked:
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: edro13
Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Originally posted by: minendo
There is absolutely no reason why they should reduce the fine. Instead they should pull your license.
for some reason you never have anything decent to say
Why in the hell would I have something decent to say? He was doing 110mph in a 65mph zone. He is not only a risk to himself, but a risk to others. Additionally, it is asshat drivers like this that keep insurance rates so high.
Yeah, minendo is the king of the pessemistic nef...

And speeders don't cause high insurance rates... also please don't give me a worthless correlation of speeding to wrecks, because it is bullshit.

After every accident:
Cop: And how fast were you going?
Offender: Umm... like 57-58.
Cop: Ok, so you were speeding... lets add that to the national statistics of wrecks.

(my point is that everyone speeds, so OF COURSE, all wrecks are going to be associated with speeding.

Mmmmmk I'll humor you and assume that accidents rates are the same no matter what the speed. Which do you think will cause more damage, a car going 110 mph, or a car going 65 mph? Which do you think will be more likely to cause a serious (expensive) injury or death?

I'll give you a hint.
Kinetic energy = 1/2 m * v^2
m = mass - one of the reasons SUV drivers pay higher rates
v = velocity. Notice it's squared. That makes a substantial difference.

So it's not unreasonable to say that faster drivers cause higher costs for insurance companies, which get passed along to their customers.
 

Kilrsat

Golden Member
Jul 16, 2001
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: edro13
Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Originally posted by: minendo
There is absolutely no reason why they should reduce the fine. Instead they should pull your license.
for some reason you never have anything decent to say
Why in the hell would I have something decent to say? He was doing 110mph in a 65mph zone. He is not only a risk to himself, but a risk to others. Additionally, it is asshat drivers like this that keep insurance rates so high.
Yeah, minendo is the king of the pessemistic nef...

And speeders don't cause high insurance rates... also please don't give me a worthless correlation of speeding to wrecks, because it is bullshit.

After every accident:
Cop: And how fast were you going?
Offender: Umm... like 57-58.
Cop: Ok, so you were speeding... lets add that to the national statistics of wrecks.

(my point is that everyone speeds, so OF COURSE, all wrecks are going to be associated with speeding.

Mmmmmk I'll humor you and assume that accidents rates are the same no matter what the speed. Which do you think will cause more damage, a car going 110 mph, or a car going 65 mph? Which do you think will be more likely to cause a serious (expensive) injury or death?

I'll give you a hint.
Kinetic energy = 1/2 m * v^2
m = mass - one of the reasons SUV drivers pay higher rates
v = velocity. Notice it's squared. That makes a substantial difference.

So it's not unreasonable to say that faster drivers cause higher costs for insurance companies, which get passed along to their customers.

Its the difference in speeds that cause damage to vehicles. If you're going to start quoting equations, I'd expect you to know that.

A car traveling at 112mph that runs into the back of a car doing 110mph (both traveling in the same direction) does not result in the both cars blowing to pieces. Now a car going 112mph running into the back of a car doing 65mph is a different story, and a car going 112mph running into a vehicle doing 65mph headed in the opposite direction will result in lots of flying pieces. But the point is that just because an accident occurs at a high rate of speed doesn't mean that it will always result in major damage.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: Kilrsat
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: edro13
Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Originally posted by: minendo
There is absolutely no reason why they should reduce the fine. Instead they should pull your license.
for some reason you never have anything decent to say
Why in the hell would I have something decent to say? He was doing 110mph in a 65mph zone. He is not only a risk to himself, but a risk to others. Additionally, it is asshat drivers like this that keep insurance rates so high.
Yeah, minendo is the king of the pessemistic nef...

And speeders don't cause high insurance rates... also please don't give me a worthless correlation of speeding to wrecks, because it is bullshit.

After every accident:
Cop: And how fast were you going?
Offender: Umm... like 57-58.
Cop: Ok, so you were speeding... lets add that to the national statistics of wrecks.

(my point is that everyone speeds, so OF COURSE, all wrecks are going to be associated with speeding.

Mmmmmk I'll humor you and assume that accidents rates are the same no matter what the speed. Which do you think will cause more damage, a car going 110 mph, or a car going 65 mph? Which do you think will be more likely to cause a serious (expensive) injury or death?

I'll give you a hint.
Kinetic energy = 1/2 m * v^2
m = mass - one of the reasons SUV drivers pay higher rates
v = velocity. Notice it's squared. That makes a substantial difference.

So it's not unreasonable to say that faster drivers cause higher costs for insurance companies, which get passed along to their customers.

Its the difference in speeds that cause damage to vehicles. If you're going to start quoting equations, I'd expect you to know that.

A car traveling at 112mph that runs into the back of a car doing 110mph (both traveling in the same direction) does not result in the both cars blowing to pieces. Now a car going 112mph running into the back of a car doing 65mph is a different story, and a car going 112mph running into a vehicle doing 65mph headed in the opposite direction will result in lots of flying pieces. But the point is that just because an accident occurs at a high rate of speed doesn't mean that it will always result in major damage.

Yes I realize that, but the only situation where high speed wouldn't be likely to cause more damage is a rear-end collision where both cars are moving very fast.
 

Freejack2

Diamond Member
Dec 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Originally posted by: minendo
There is absolutely no reason why they should reduce the fine. Instead they should pull your license.

for some reason you never have anything decent to say
Why in the hell would I have something decent to say? He was doing 110mph in a 65mph zone. He is not only a risk to himself, but a risk to others. Additionally, it is asshat drivers like this that keep insurance rates so high.

So does reading the newspaper, eating, putting on makeup, talking on the cellphone without a headset, watching tv, talking, fiddling with the radio, etc...

The driver doing 110mph in a 65 is very likely to be solidly focused on the road. Granted this is insane during normal hours but he was doing this in the wee hours of the morning. Him and the cop were probably the only ones on the road.

Edit: Oh and no they won't pull his license, He's not in New York, Massachusetts is very lenient about this. They may even reduce the fine as he was doing this in the middle of the night and not during high traffic hours. Most likely they'll just make him pay the fine for speeding and drop the other bs.
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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If he's in jail I will laugh my ass off for days. I will LOVE IT. Hell, I'll goddamn pass out.
 

Crimson

Banned
Oct 11, 1999
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High speed in and of itself is not reckless.. except for maybe to yourself. My Ducati can get up to over 100 faster than most of you can blink.. I've been up to 110 or so on back country roads.. there is no danger, other than to myself of course..
 

mryellow2

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Dec 2, 2000
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Last I heard you're supposed to automatically lose your license and go to jail when you're going that much over the speed limit. This is in Virginia btw. Heh, shoulda just paid the fine I suppose.
 

Freejack2

Diamond Member
Dec 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: mryellow2
Last I heard you're supposed to automatically lose your license and go to jail when you're going that much over the speed limit. This is in Virginia btw. Heh, shoulda just paid the fine I suppose.

In Mass speed limits are not absolute. If the stretch of highway he was driving down was outside a thickly settled area then he'd have to be doing 115 to get in any kind of major trouble.


State Traffic and Speed Laws
NMA - Massachusetts Page
 

Subzero

Banned
May 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: LOLyourFace
appx 3 months ago, 110 in 65 zone

I'm in my tie and dress shirt, ready to rock and roll. Speeding was absolutely stupid for me to do and I'm just gonna tell the judge straight-up that it is my fault, desperately hoping he'll reduce the fine.

Wish me luck!


I hope they tag you for every cent and then your insurance does the same,idiots like you are the reason us "normal/sane" folks get our rates raised ...next time aim for the nearest tree and do us all a favor..:thumbsup:

Ever heard of a track where it is leagal to drive that fast ????

Grow up ...
 

Slacker

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Hey, lets look on the bright side, a little jail time would be an exciting experience! part of the whole living on teh edge lifestyle, hell, if you never been to jail you aint ]-[ardc0re!


That kind of speed around here will find you treated like a fleeing felon, guns drawn, face down on the ground cuffed and stuffed with extreme prejudice.

The judge doesnt givashit about technicalities or angles, and any attitude you want to show off will be returned tenfold.

The judge is not your mommy he will not take your side.

Dont fvck with the judge, you're in his house, he is the man.


on a side note, I did over 110 in a rural 55mph zone yesterday.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: iliopsoas
booya!

we've been syringered and stefaned.

I'm sure he'll update, he just hasn't been here since he left to go to court.

What do you mean by Stefaned? Did he do the same thing as syringer?
 
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