Altered Carbon Poll Thread

BxgJ

Golden Member
Jul 27, 2015
1,054
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I said good, but haven't finished it yet. So it's possible my opinion could change.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
30,383
912
126
I've only seen the first episode so far, and it seems... fine? The acting is probably the weakest part so far as both Joel Kinnaman and the female detective feel almost... too forced or one-note in their performance. Kinnaman's "Tak" seems like he's supposed to be that sort of bad-ass character that doesn't need to say much, but I just don't get that vibe.

As a side note, I have a bit of a dislike for their abbreviating Takeshi as "Tak"... mostly because that's the same thing Tokyopop did to Takumi in the Initial D manga when they translated it.
 
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Guurn

Senior member
Dec 29, 2012
319
30
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I actually like how he's playing Tak and so far (episode 3) I think the show is pretty good. I'm a little worried about where they are going but until then the ride seems fine.
 
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glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
25,383
1,013
126
Got to watch the entire series on a couple of cross-country flights and thought it was fucking awesome. I’m a big fan of the source books and think they both respected them and added some interesting new angles as well. Couple of changes I disagreed with but overall must everything they did actually improved the original story lines from the book. This series is what I thought Blade Runner 2049 would be but actually succeeds, and looks like it was made with just as big a budget TBH. Thoroughly impressed.
 
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thebestMAX

Diamond Member
Sep 14, 2000
7,487
121
106
Committed to a good rating but it there were something in between that and excellent I d go there.
 

PricklyPete

Lifer
Sep 17, 2002
14,714
164
106
Got to watch the entire series on a couple of cross-country flights and thought it was fucking awesome. I’m a big fan of the source books and think they both respected them and added some interesting new angles as well. Couple of changes I disagreed with but overall must everything they did actually improved the original story lines from the book. This series is what I thought Blade Runner 2049 would be but actually succeeds, and looks like it was made with just as big a budget TBH. Thoroughly impressed.

I thought Bladerunner 2049 was fantastic.

Interested in the show. Trailer seemed a bit over the top, but fun. Not familiar with the source material at all.
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
25,135
2,445
126
It's good, but not "House Of Cards Season 1" good. All of the violence and sex seems to be a bit over the top... it started reminding me of the Starz version of Spartacus towards the end.
 

glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
25,383
1,013
126
It's good, but not "House Of Cards Season 1" good. All of the violence and sex seems to be a bit over the top... it started reminding me of the Starz version of Spartacus towards the end.

The book was written that way and the series doesn't really add any sex or violence that wasn't in the original (with one exception that doesn't change the overall tone).
 
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KIAman

Diamond Member
Mar 7, 2001
3,342
23
81
Saw the first episode out of curiosity. Love the visuals and the cyber punk look and feel. The story seemed a little slow and so far I don't really care about any of the cast, most likely because of the premise of what is "true death" in that world. if this show fails, it's gonna be from that plot point where they have the room to pretty much get away with anything they want.
 

Ancalagon44

Diamond Member
Feb 17, 2010
3,274
202
106
Having read the book, I feel like the series has lost a little of the books soul. I can't quite put my finger on it.

Stuff like the Envoy background, and how Kovacs went from being just an Envoy, to an Envoy that fought on the wrong side of the war.

And the whole "Envoys take what is offered."

Just... doesn't feel right.
 

PeterScott

Platinum Member
Jul 7, 2017
2,605
1,540
136
Depends on the audience.

As generic SciFi, I would call it average. Too much CGI, and the lead actor is completely bland and uninteresting. If the lead doesn't work, nothing works.

As someone who read the book, I voted for "kind of sucks" since that was what was below average. It changes significant things in negative ways. So, not as good as the book, coupled with the bland lead, makes it a below average experience for this book reader.
 
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Kadarin

Lifer
Nov 23, 2001
44,303
15
81
I would call it excellent. A coworker of mine has a female friend who said she stopped watching it because she didn't like the way the show portrayed women, completely missing the point that in the show, if you're a member of the lower class you get treated extremely poorly regardless of your gender. And I like how they portray the effectively immortal extremely wealthy as something a bit other than human (i.e. they lost their humanity). It's surprisingly deep scifi, and I think it'll be worth rewatching at some point to see what I missed the first time around. Note: I'm 7 episodes in at the time I am writing this.
 
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iCyborg

Golden Member
Aug 8, 2008
1,327
52
91
I watched all the episodes, it's just OK for me.
The detective story bit is decent, but I'm not too big on this 'apocalyptic dehumanized society' vision of the future, it's much heavier on Fi than Sci. And I got the impression that more time is dedicated to this background aspect than the main plot.
 
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Charmonium

Diamond Member
May 15, 2015
9,564
2,939
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Thanks for all of the votes so far. It's an interesting distribution which seems to skew to the high end so right now I think I'm going to be checking this out.

I've gone from watching a lot of tv to almost none and I have no idea why. I have an idea but that's a topic for another thread. So if I can avoid it, I really don't want to invest any time in a show I'm going to have to abandon. This helps me out a lot.
 
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Thebobo

Lifer
Jun 19, 2006
18,592
7,673
136
I started watching it that stopped before 10 mins I will try again this weekend. All my friends and family are saying its very good. I'm getting tired of fight and chase scenes they are mostly boring to me unless truly epic.
 
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Charmonium

Diamond Member
May 15, 2015
9,564
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I tend to ff through those too. Sometimes there's dialog you need and can't do that but usually it's an option. I generally don't mind too much if there's good sfx though.
 

Ackmed

Diamond Member
Oct 1, 2003
8,478
524
126
2 episodes in, wife and I are enjoying it. It is interesting and some twists so far, and a few more that we can already see (or think we do). Gonna try and finish it before we start anything else.
 

PeterScott

Platinum Member
Jul 7, 2017
2,605
1,540
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Thanks for all of the votes so far. It's an interesting distribution which seems to skew to the high end so right now I think I'm going to be checking this out.

I've gone from watching a lot of tv to almost none and I have no idea why. I have an idea but that's a topic for another thread. So if I can avoid it, I really don't want to invest any time in a show I'm going to have to abandon. This helps me out a lot.

I wouldn't go by a popularity poll to determine what you watch. Then you end up watching reality TV.

IMO, if you want lots of flashy CGI, watch this.

If, you want nuanced, intelligent SciFi, watch Counterpart.
 
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