Although I am christian, I think sharia law would be cool.

[inachu]

I do not mind seeing any neighbors hands being chopped off for stealing my property no matter how small the item was.

This is a troll thread, and entirely unsuited for this forum.

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[mikeymikec]

I do not mind seeing any neighbors hands being chopped off for stealing my property no matter how small the item was.

Not sure if serious, not sure if this is a topic for Discussion Club... if anything, what exactly would you like to discuss?

 

[inachu]

Not sure if serious, not sure if this is a topic for Discussion Club... if anything, what exactly would you like to discuss?

That sounds like a reply from Eliza computer program.


It is a legit comment that stirs up the righteous indignations we have against petty thefts in and around our towns.

So first time the persons hand gets chopped off. SEcond time they steal then chop off their parents hand.

 

[silicon]

I do not mind seeing any neighbors hands being chopped off for stealing my property no matter how small the item was.

Seriously Sharia law? This law is for throwbacks and is not valid in a modern culture.

 

[mikeymikec]

So first time the persons hand gets chopped off. SEcond time they steal then chop off their parents hand.

So if a kid steals something from you, their hand should be chopped off?

Did you ever do anything stupid when you were a kid?

Do you think there's no difference between a kid who steals something once and one that does it habitually? How about one that does it out of need and the other for fun / purely personal gain?

 

[cabri]

Although I am christian, I think sharia law would be cool.

Apparently you also feel that you can pick & choose which parts you wish to obey.

Forgettting that transgression is also quickly punishable by more than a scolding

 

[Retro Rob]

So if a kid steals something from you, their hand should be chopped off?

Did you ever do anything stupid when you were a kid?

Do you think there's no difference between a kid who steals something once and one that does it habitually? How about one that does it out of need and the other for fun / purely personal gain?

I think the point is that a law to chop off hands would or could serve as a strong deterrent.

Note: I'm not at all in support of it, just trying to get the point behind such a law.

 

[inachu]

I think the point is that a law to chop off hands would or could serve as a strong deterrent.

Note: I'm not at all in support of it, just trying to get the point behind such a law.

Which is also my point. Maybe not for kids but 100% for adults.
If adults do not value their own body when stealing then why should we?

 

[Vdubchaos]

Seriously Sharia law? This law is for throwbacks and is not valid in a modern culture.

Based on the amount of people we have in prisons, we might want to reevaluate "modern culture". Our laws and justice is clearly not working.

Wait.......I forgot putting people's in prisons is a big business now, private one too!

 

[PhatoseAlpha]

Our justice system is ultimately run by people. People make mistakes.

How many innocent people are going to lose their limbs in a single month of this?

And then there's the basic problem of complete disproportionality acting as a rather strong incentive to escalate your crime. You're going to lose your hand either way, so why steal just his wallet? Steal everything you can, since the penalty is the same whether you take a single pen or the entire contents of his home?

 

[repoman0]

Based on the amount of people we have in prisons, we might want to reevaluate "modern culture". Our laws and justice is clearly not working.

Wait.......I forgot putting people's in prisons is a big business now, private one too!

I wonder if that's because we lock people up for things like rape and murder when less modern cultures would just let it slide :\ You also seem to be forgetting that the US is not the only "modern culture" and by far imprisons more than any other country, largely due to the war on drugs. (The next two countries are China and Russia, followed by Brazil, India, Thailand, Mexico, Iran, etc.. I could keep going)

On topic, OP is a psychopath, noted. Ignore his posts even more than already do.

 

[sandorski]

You don't need Sharia for that kind of Barbarism, just use the Old Testament Law in your Bible.

 

[mikeymikec]

Which is also my point. Maybe not for kids but 100% for adults.

So first time the persons hand gets chopped off. SEcond time they steal then chop off their parents hand.

Then what do the parents have to do with it?

If adults do not value their own body when stealing then why should we?

If that's your logic, then why not just kill them?

 

[Caravaggio]

I do not mind seeing any neighbors hands being chopped off for stealing my property no matter how small the item was.

Come on Inachu, you are too smart for that 'eye for an eye' primitive stuff.

Just buy a cheap CCTV and hand the SD card to the local crim-busters, who will instantly identify the felons. The crime squad will swab your home and think long and hard about a prosecution, and then, after nearly 30 seconds serious thought, drop the idea, in favour of an early lunch.

 

[inachu]

I wonder if that's because we lock people up for things like rape and murder when less modern cultures would just let it slide :\ You also seem to be forgetting that the US is not the only "modern culture" and by far imprisons more than any other country, largely due to the war on drugs. (The next two countries are China and Russia, followed by Brazil, India, Thailand, Mexico, Iran, etc.. I could keep going)

On topic, OP is a psychopath, noted. Ignore his posts even more than already do.

That is a compliment thank you so much!

#dextermorgan

If my wish did come true then America would be a safer place to live.

 

[inachu]

Come on Inachu, you are too smart for that 'eye for an eye' primitive stuff.

Just buy a cheap CCTV and hand the SD card to the local crim-busters, who will instantly identify the felons. The crime squad will swab your home and think long and hard about a prosecution, and then, after nearly 30 seconds serious thought, drop the idea, in favour of an early lunch.

Yeah sounds nice. Buy the equipment. My living room is already full of blinking lights from all these internet gadgets and video players that the living room is no longer pitch dark at night but a more like a disco.

 

[inachu]

You don't need Sharia for that kind of Barbarism, just use the Old Testament Law in your Bible.

Ah yes.... An eye for an eye. Or let GOD sort them out.

 

[balloonshark]

Punishment will not solve the problem. If you want to solve most crime then find out and fix why the guy stole in the first place. Unfortunately that makes too much sense and isn't profitable so we'll keep banging our heads. 'Merica.

 

[SMOGZINN]

I do not mind seeing any neighbors hands being chopped off for stealing my property no matter how small the item was.

Under Sharia law being a Christian is illegal.

 

[cabri]

Punishment will not solve the problem. If you want to solve most crime then find out and fix why the guy stole in the first place. Unfortunately that makes too much sense and isn't profitable so we'll keep banging our heads. 'Merica.

Most do not do it out of need but rather envy or desire.

 

[brycejones]

Under Sharia law being a Christian is illegal.

Can't that just be ignored for the OP because he is special? He promises not to tell anyone else about his faith and pay a tax.

 

[PhatoseAlpha]

Can't that just be ignored for the OP because he is special? He promises not to tell anyone else about his faith and pay a tax.

It can be ignored because it's not actually true. Being a Christian is OK under Sharia law. Practicing in public, not legal. Trying to convert Muslims or proselytizing, not legal and gets you tossed in jail. Actually converting away from Islam, illegal and punishable by death. But simply being a Christian in and of itself isn't an offense.

 

[Dessicant]

Punishment will not solve the problem. If you want to solve most crime then find out and fix why the guy stole in the first place. Unfortunately that makes too much sense and isn't profitable so we'll keep banging our heads. 'Merica.

I don't know or care why someone of low character chooses to steal from others. Don't know. Don't care. And prison is perfect because it keeps this cretin out of my world. SO prison works perfectly. It keeps the cretins out of the good peoples' lives. BAD people in jail. GOOD people out of jail. That's how we want to have it.

I am willing to spend billions and billion of tax dollars to make this a reality. BAD PEOPLE GO AWAY AND HANG WITH EACH OTHER! Good people are free and trade with each other and behave rationally and morally and do not steal from each other.

Keep it simple. No need to get into anything complicated when it comes to criminals. Lock them up and get them out of the way of the good people.

I don't need to correct a criminal or a thug, I only need to be rid of him.

That's how we want to do it.

 

[Ban Bot]

It can be ignored because it's not actually true. Being a Christian is OK under Sharia law. Practicing in public, not legal. Trying to convert Muslims or proselytizing, not legal and gets you tossed in jail. Actually converting away from Islam, illegal and punishable by death. But simply being a Christian in and of itself isn't an offense.

Vaguely assenting to Christian tenants or principles is not the same as "being a Christian."

"Being a Christian" historically and based on the most rudimentary tenants almost all denominations agree to involves regular public worship as well as evangelizing non-believers with the objective of bringing them into the Christian fold. So going back to your summary:

Practicing in public, not legal.

"Being a Christian" involved regular public worship.

Trying to convert Muslims or proselytizing, not legal and gets you tossed in jail.

Evangelism is a principle pillar of the Church.

Actually converting away from Islam, illegal and punishable by death.

Conversion is the objective of Evangelism. Muslims are not considered remotely "orthodox" by any relevant Christian standard and therefore would be those evangelized with the purpose of conversion.

But simply being a Christian in and of itself isn't an offense.

Being a Christian is OK under Sharia law.

Talk about a lot of half truths. The version of a "Christian" you are saying Islam allows is not too dissimilar to how other oppressive regimes (think Nazis, or even at times the Catholic Church for that matter) dictate others must practice a faith under their terms, not the actual terms of the religion itself.

 

[Caravaggio]

Vaguely assenting to Christian tenants or principles is not the same as "being a Christian."

"Being a Christian" historically and based on the most rudimentary tenants.

We have all had to live with the most rudimentary of tenants at "the God Bless Me Jesus", St. Sarah Palin, Bible College, Alabammy. I feel your pain. I know, they are worse than Scientologists.

But the basic TENETS of the Christian faith are love and forgiveness.

I'm an atheist but I thought you should know that.

If you get nasty with me I will set Moonbeam on you. He knows more about faith, its loss and its renewal, than you will barely comprehend.