Am I getting older or does rap nowadays sound bad?

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OUCaptain

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We are slowly reaching a time when all entertainment is going down hill. It's seems there are no more good new ideas. It's all been done. So it makes complete sense that the genre that is produced by those with lower intelligence and creativity will go downhill as well.

And you're getting older
 

Jinny

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Feb 16, 2000
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i use to be a huge fan of rap in the mid to late 90s but the newer stuff just sucks.
however i'm digging the 2pac remixes on youtube like this one
clicky
and
clicky
 

pyonir

Lifer
Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: effowe
Well, since I'm bored at work and have nothing better to do, I am going to present you with many different hip hop artists that I listen to. Hope some of you go through and listen to these as I'm taking quite some time to make this post. Here we go..

Old school hip hop that basically everyone can listen to and enjoy..
A Tribe Called Quest
De La Soul
The Pharcyde (another)
GangStarr (another)
KRS-One (another)
Souls of Mischief

Now for a little more modern, but still old..
Mos Def and Talib Kweli are Black Star
Common (another, another)
Dr. Octogon (another)
The Roots (another)
Del the funkee Homosapien

Now for some more modern underground hip hop..
Aceyalone (another, another)
Abstract Rude (another)
Living Legends (Murs, Scarub, Eligh, The Grouch, PSC, Sunspot Jonz, Aesop Bicasso)

Ugh, I could go on and on but I've been working on this for over an hour.. Anyways, enjoy some new music and I can provide more artists names (that you can look up on youtube) if you request.
OP...use this post as a guide. This is quality music and will get you started. If you want to listen to new rap music that is actually good, turn off the radio. Go to places like http://forums.undergroundhiphop.com/ and see what's hot in the underground scene.

Some other artists that are fairly recent that i listen to and haven't been listed are Akrobatik, Atmosphere, Brother Ali, The Streets, Illogic, Little Brother, POS, Talib Kweli.
 

pyonir

Lifer
Dec 18, 2001
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311
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Originally posted by: meltdown75
this is sort of OT, but

has anything ever been as good as Illmatic?

i'm not a rap expert, I seriously want any rap album that is this good because it is tha shiznits (white guy inability to use ebonics emphasis added).

There's really nothing that will compare...i mean, based on opinions, there is, but that is ultimately the classic disc IMO.

One of my favorite all time CD's is De La Soul - AOI Mosaic Thump. If i were stranded on a desert island with one CD, i'd really consider this one.
 

anxi80

Lifer
Jul 7, 2002
12,295
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i just recently started listening to it again, but if you guys havent heard 'foreign exchange - connected' i highly recommend it. great album and a better backstory to the creation of the album to boot. wiki blurb about the album
 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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Originally posted by: pyonir
Originally posted by: meltdown75
this is sort of OT, but

has anything ever been as good as Illmatic?

i'm not a rap expert, I seriously want any rap album that is this good because it is tha shiznits (white guy inability to use ebonics emphasis added).

There's really nothing that will compare...i mean, based on opinions, there is, but that is ultimately the classic disc IMO.

One of my favorite all time CD's is De La Soul - AOI Mosaic Thump. If i were stranded on a desert island with one CD, i'd really consider this one.
I'm picking up what you are putting down and filing it for later. Word to your female parent!
 

polarmystery

Diamond Member
Aug 21, 2005
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Originally posted by: effowe
Well, since I'm bored at work and have nothing better to do, I am going to present you with many different hip hop artists that I listen to. Hope some of you go through and listen to these as I'm taking quite some time to make this post. Here we go..

Old school hip hop that basically everyone can listen to and enjoy..
A Tribe Called Quest
De La Soul
The Pharcyde (another)
GangStarr (another)
KRS-One (another)
Souls of Mischief

Now for a little more modern, but still old..
Mos Def and Talib Kweli are Black Star
Common (another, another)
Dr. Octogon (another)
The Roots (another)
Del the funkee Homosapien

Now for some more modern underground hip hop..
Aceyalone (another, another)
Abstract Rude (another)
Living Legends (Murs, Scarub, Eligh, The Grouch, PSC, Sunspot Jonz, Aesop Bicasso)

Ugh, I could go on and on but I've been working on this for over an hour.. Anyways, enjoy some new music and I can provide more artists names (that you can look up on youtube) if you request.


Wow, thanks man I will definitally check them out!!
 

effowe

Diamond Member
Nov 1, 2004
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Originally posted by: eaj0010
Wow, thanks man I will definitally check them out!!

:thumbsup: No problem.. I'm finally home so I can look in my Music folder and list some more people if you want to check them out on the youtubes..

2Mex, Aesop Rock, A-Team (Aceyalone and Abstract Rude), Atmosphere, Awol One, Blackalicious, Busdriver, Company Flow, Denizen Kane, DJ Krush, DJ Shadow, Dose One, EL-P, Existerio, Freestyle Fellowship (Aceyalone, Myka Nyne, Peace, Self Jupiter), Gravediggaz, Guru, Haiku De Tat (Aceyalone, Myka Nyne, Abstract Rude), Hieroglyphics, Hi-Tek, J-Dilla, Juice, Jurassic 5, King Geedorah, Lateef, Latyrx, Life Rexall, LMNO, Lyrics Born, Madlib, Medaphoar, Mestizo, MF Doom, Myka Nyne, Moka Only, Molemen, Mood, Mystik Journeymen, Nacrobats, Offwhyte, Oh No, Peace, Peanut Butter Wolf, People Under the Stairs, Percee P, Phoenix Orion, Pigeon John, Planet Asia, Project Blowed, Pugslee Atomz, Quasimoto, Qwel, Radioinactive, Rifleman (Ellay Khule), RJD2, Sage Francis, Slum Village, Sole, SoleSides, Typical Cats, Ultramagnetic MC's, Vakill, Vast Aire, Visionaries, Wildchild, Zion I.

Phew, ok there you go, that should give you plenty of things to listen to and find what you like.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: iroast
"Am I getting older or does rap nowadays sound bad?"

Both.

:thumbsup:

QFT. But then again, rap has ALWAYS sounded bad. I've had the pleasure of hating the sound of rap since it came out, about 25 years ago...I used to enjoy much of the music that was R&B, but the modern crap is just that...crap.
 

Oceandevi

Diamond Member
Jan 20, 2006
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Originally posted by: eaj0010
I remember when I was growing up I liked listen to any and all rap from pretty much any artist. Most of the time the rapper in question had a good beat, the words rhymed, and if they cursed, it wasn't overly done and fine. However...

Since 2003ish or so, I have steadily declined listen to rap because now it just seems that they are not even rapping or rhyming. It seems that all the new rap I hear on the radio is just some guy trying to act 'hard' like he owns the world or that he is the ultimate love machine for any woman on the planet. I guess the worst part is the beats are so-so at best and 9 times out of 10 the words don't even rhyme! Am I just too old to appreciate the new style or does anyone else feel this way?

I live in Dallas, TX and they have 97.9 the beat and K104 and after swishahouse music all but vanished I steadily stopped listening to it. (yes I liked Screwed and chopped music somewhat, but I was very picky at which I preferred)

90.1 ftw
 

DangerAardvark

Diamond Member
Oct 22, 2004
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90% of all music period is going to suck. That's why I marvel at people who listen to the radio, which is 99% suck, at least. Are they so inured to shit music that they can just stand in the middle of a rushing torrent of aural sewage with their mouth open and gargle it?
 

Omegachi

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Mar 27, 2001
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i feel the same thing about rap nowadays, its crap. i heard this new rap song on the radio today and its pretty much a guy yelling in the background, wtf. (no its not lil jon)
 

zach0624

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Jul 13, 2007
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Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Originally posted by: clamum
There's still some good quality stuff out there. Check out:

Del tha Funkee Homosapien
Hieroglyphics
Deltron 3030
Binary Star
Jurassic 5
Zion I

Some of those are a little older (early 00s, late 1990s) but still good; none of that gangster/bling/MTV bullshit. I haven't kept up on new hip-hop too much, I listen to mostly punk music.

EDIT: Tech N9ne is a bit different than the above, more midwest-hardcore rap, but still decent.

Adding to the list of underground artists:

Aesop Rock's latest album is pretty damn hot, his best since Labor Days (which has Daylight, possibly my favorite song of all time, on it).

Sage Francis' last album was good as well, though it doesn't quite live up to Healthy Distrust (and neither can compete with Hope, which he did as the Non-Prophets, easily one of the best hip hop albums in the last decade).

Cannibal Ox was amazing. They released one album, Cold Vein, which was an instant classic, then broke up (which sucks a lot).

I don't generally like "punchline" rap, but Tonedeff is amazing. He has one of the hottest flows you will ever hear and his lyrics are ridiculous (which just happens to be the name of one of his first singles). If you aren't impressed by the flow on "Move In, Ride Out," you don't like rap.

Blackalicious is an amazing artist, with great lyrics and flow, who can deftly switch between word play (Alphabet Aerobics), speed rhyming (Blazing Arrow), serious concepts (Shallow Days) and lazy rhyming (Sleep, one of those beautiful tracks where the melody is like a lullaby).

But yeah, I stopped checking out new hip hop a few years ago (with the exception of artists I already knew). In the words of Sage Francis "hip hop went from being artistic to a pop hit, mainstream took control and we cannot stop it. It's a black art being manipulated by white controllers, just like rock and roll is." This statement is delightfully ironic as Sage Francis is white, but ignoring that humorous trivia, he has a point. I've entertained myself in recent years by going back and discovering artists I'd heard about in the early 90s but never really listened to: Big Daddy Kane, Organized Konfusion, Run DMC, Eric B and Rakim, Biz Markie, Slick Rick, A Tribe Called Quest, etc. It's amazing how much great music I missed out on being stuck in the mindset of "if it isn't in the vein of NWA or Snoop, it isn't real hip hop." Ah to be young and ignorant again...

wow rap got good again. I may actually have to go out and buy some rap albums now. Aesop Rock was pretty darn good.
 

QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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Originally posted by: manowar821
Most of it is utter shit, now. There is no skill, it's all commercialized. I can lay down a better beat in 5 minutes on my electribe MX than they can pump out of their studio, and a retard could make up crunk-rap lyrics.

Not saying you can't, but if you can why don't you? That idiot Solija Boy is a million air, if it's as easy as you say even if you don't like it, you should be able to make a killing. I'd do just about any job regardless how much I hated it if I knew I could make millions of dollars with little work involved.
 

QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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Originally posted by: pyonir
Originally posted by: meltdown75
this is sort of OT, but

has anything ever been as good as Illmatic?

i'm not a rap expert, I seriously want any rap album that is this good because it is tha shiznits (white guy inability to use ebonics emphasis added).

There's really nothing that will compare...i mean, based on opinions, there is, but that is ultimately the classic disc IMO.

One of my favorite all time CD's is De La Soul - AOI Mosaic Thump. If i were stranded on a desert island with one CD, i'd really consider this one.

Vakill's 2nd album "Worst Fear Confirmed" is as good as anything. It was slept on but I would put it up against Illmatic, It Takes A Nation Of Millions, It's A Big Daddy Thing, Straight Outta Compton, you name it. VAkill is probably the nicest dude out, and the beats are almost all perfect for the songs. As a complete album it's one of my favorite album in a decade easy. It should be considered a classic right next to whatever people think is the best of the best.


 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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I understand where rap is coming from but I never cared for it.

Modern dance/hip-hop/trance whenever they call it now is quite good. I listen to the dance station in Phoenix whenever I travel that way. Local radio here sucks, one boring classic rock station after another with interspersed crap country and norteño stations.
 

WaTaGuMp

Lifer
May 10, 2001
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2,506
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My thing lately at least for listening at home has been cranking Sirius stations from Dish Network. Area, channel 6033 has some kickass trance progression music. Sounds killer blasting through my Paradigms and my little Martin Logan sub going town. I also like channel 6073 which is New Age Instrumentals, for relaxing after work.
 
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