am i supposed to be able to see mod forums?

[brblx]

well that's stupid, if I get banned, you won't get a payout since I'd be banned, betting on me is pointless.

who says you're the only bookie? :ninja:

 

[HamburgerBoy]

It is evidence of a personal hit list that is kept outside of the normal, acceptable methods used by the other mods here. Nevermind the fact that these alleged actions took place 8+ years ago. That's quite a long time to maintain a non dossier.

It is also evidence that posts on other forums are being brought into disciplinary discussions since a "TFNN Conspiracy" is mentioned. That speaks to an abuse of power as well as a need for meds.

You keep repeating yourself. I have already shown repeatedly that the powers that be have nothing against a concept of a personal dossier, and you have not shown how it is an unacceptable way to store evidence. Please clearly and logically demonstrate how personal dossier = abuse of power.

 

[darkxshade]

who says you're the only bookie? :ninja:

well then I vote on darkxshade as well... may as well hedge this. I if I get banned, I'm going to disney land. :awe:

 

[Greenman]

Alone will be banned soon I guess.

Banned, and burned in effigy. Not for the first time.

 

[busydude]

Encrypting posts is perfectly fine - just ask Spaceman or Nemesis 1.

LMAO.. I laffed so hard.

Usually I LMAO like this:

but now I LMAO'd like:

 

[shiner]

Then hopefully in the ensuing discussion of said info, it is correctly determined to be bullshit and no action is taken (except maybe against the one presenting it)? I seriously love this thread, a bunch of TFNN diehards effectively arguing against accountability for the actions of long-term and privileged forum members.

You're not getting it. The problem I, and many others have, is that they were brought into the discussion at all.

Items outside of the normal causes for disciplinary action should never be brought up to help support an argument for "sanctions" The fact that they were is what is troubling and should be raising your eyebrows.

 

[Red Dawn]

That's a lot of allegations against Red. :shocked:

I'm here to say that most of them were not true and the ones that are happened a long long time ago when there was a lot of shenanigans going on by the staff.

That said, what you'[ve read that Perk has posted is a direct result of him and I beefing. I've been talking smack about him over at TFNN and he was just responding in kind in a forum that he thought was private away from the view of the membership. As much as I dislike him to be fair I think he was just blowing off steam and I truly believe the rest of the staff took it as so. As Dr Pizza posted I didn't even recieve a PM about it, no infraction, no warning, nada.

There's a lot of anonimosty between the two of us and I definitely have certain opinions about him being an FD but it's not for me to discuss on these forums.

The one thing I really want to get across is that as an Admin and a Mod it was my pleasure to work alongside most of the other staff, none who kept any dossiers in their capacity as a member of the staff. The one that did, did so on his own accord without the knowledge of the others so you should not accuse them of it as it is very unfair.

Give them a break folks, they are not the enemy. The actions of one shouldn't define the rest of them.

 

[darkxshade]

anyone find it interesting people show up at the most opportune moments?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

You're not getting it. The problem I, and many others have, is that they were brought into the discussion at all.

Items outside of the normal causes for disciplinary action should never be brought up to help support an argument for "sanctions" The fact that they were is what is troubling and should be raising your eyebrows.

Who is "they"? That first statement doesn't even make sense. Your second one is just your opinion man, as unless you demonstrate a reason as to why should items "should never be brought up", you're not providing an argument. Furthermore, do you not see any value in keeping a log on guys that consistently toe the line but never cross it? Look at a good troll like <insert a certain infamous poster here> that rarely crosses into personal attacks and appears to have a legitimate presence, yet manages to consistently enrage many members of the forum. Is it not worthwhile to keep an eye out on the occasion that they slip up?

 

[Locut0s]

Can I at least get a vistor pass? I promise not to steal any silverware or look in the medicine cabinet while I'm in the bathroom. ()

I trust the word of those former mods/directors. Known them for a long time and they have always been straight shooters with me.

I'm sure there isn't anything in that area. It does sound like someone is keeping a personal "shitlist", for lack of a better term, outside of the forums and using it to help shape their admin decisions.

If that is the case then I believe it is the real problem here.

Perhaps it isn't true, but as I said I place a high value on the word of those former admins and trust them without question.

There's nothing stopping you from keeping such a personal shit list either. The mods are people too just like the rest of us. It's been made abundantly clear that people are banned based on clear evidence. Links to posts, previous history etc... If a mod has a personal vendetta against person X and keeps creepy notes on that person outside of the forums then person X decides to go and break some major forum rule, well creepy notes or not that person is probably going to get banned ones the right evidence is brought forth. Note that I'm not agreeing OR disagreeing with what happened here, this is just based on the logic.

 

[Imp]

Been ignoring this thread for days. Wow. Just finished going through all 30 pages. Who knew there was so much drama over an internet forum...

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

whoa so mods can access your pms willy nilly? awesome.

So i wonder if all that random outburst by johncu a while back was actually a mod that hacked into his account?

No they can't. And no it wasn't.
admin allisolm

 

[SparkyJJO]

whoa so mods can access your pms willy nilly? awesome.

So i wonder if all that random outburst by johncu a while back was actually a mod that hacked into his account?

OT: I want to kill your avatar.

 

[jTanked]

All I see in those screenshots is paranoia.

If you aren't paranoid, you aren't high enough up the ladder.

 

[lxskllr]

whoa so mods can access your pms willy nilly? awesome.

So i wonder if all that random outburst by johncu a while back was actually a mod that hacked into his account?

IP addresses are easy to check in VB. I'd expect they were checked if anyone suspected shenanigans.

 

[her209]

IP addresses are easy to check in VB. I'd expect they were checked if anyone suspected shenanigans.

Can it check in real time?



EDIT: Ok, I thought you meant VB as in Visual Basic. Or did you mean vBulletin?

 

[shiner]

There's nothing stopping you from keeping such a personal shit list either. The mods are people too just like the rest of us. It's been made abundantly clear that people are banned based on clear evidence. Links to posts, previous history etc... If a mod has a personal vendetta against person X and keeps creepy notes on that person outside of the forums then person X decides to go and break some major forum rule, well creepy notes or not that person is probably going to get banned ones the right evidence is brought forth. Note that I'm not agreeing OR disagreeing with what happened here, this is just based on the logic.

True, but I am not in position to bring about disciplinary actions on these forums.

 

[Svnla]

Encrypting posts is perfectly fine - just ask Spaceman or Nemesis 1. :awe:

Don't know about Spaceman but Nemesis1 is right on, most of the time, I could not figure out what he was trying to say. Don't forget about Moonbeam on P&N when he got his groove on.

 

[lxskllr]

Can it check in real time?



EDIT: Ok, I thought you meant VB as in Visual Basic. Or did you mean vBulletin?

vBulletin :^)

 

[shiner]

Who is "they"? That first statement doesn't even make sense. Your second one is just your opinion man, as unless you demonstrate a reason as to why should items "should never be brought up", you're not providing an argument. Furthermore, do you not see any value in keeping a log on guys that consistently toe the line but never cross it? Look at a good troll like <insert a certain infamous poster here> that rarely crosses into personal attacks and appears to have a legitimate presence, yet manages to consistently enrage many members of the forum. Is it not worthwhile to keep an eye out on the occasion that they slip up?

They are the items brought up that were outside of the normal methods for determining guilt/innocence. For example, something that takes place on another forum should never be cause of discipline here.

 

[shiner]

G'nite all......

 

[darkxshade]

G'nite all......

you can't leave until you have someone to sub in for you

 

[jTanked]

G'nite all......

'Nite sweetcheeks.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

They are the items brought up that were outside of the normal methods for determining guilt/innocence. For example, something that takes place on another forum should never be cause of discipline here.

Ok, so you just repeated yourself yet again. Aside from that PCAbusers thing (which still had a direct relation to Anandtech) the evidence provided did involve this forum, and I question the claim that activity external to a given forum should be ignored. If some guys on another forum openly coordinated a goatse attack, do you see anything wrong in alerting ones fellow moderators of it?

EDIT: Unfortunately, I too am due for bed. I have posts #1 through this one saved, and hope that others will preserve the rest for sufficient lulz in case I wake up to find this thread missing.

 

[Kirby]

Ok, so you just repeated yourself yet again. Aside from that PCAbusers thing (which still had a direct relation to Anandtech) the evidence provided did involve this forum, and I question the claim that activity external to a given forum should be ignored. If some guys on another forum openly coordinated a goatse attack, do you see anything wrong in alerting ones fellow moderators of it?

lol, as if that's what he's talking about