am i supposed to be able to see mod forums?

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Locut0s

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This is distasteful, Ben, but it all needs to be said.

Anand came to me with your allegations. He's a busy man, but we converse regularly, often by phone, often for more than an hour at a time, and at least once for more than 2 hours .

About your allegations, I told him I had nothing to hide, that he should ask for links and proof from you, and investigate fully.

He told me he asked you for same, and that you responded something along the lines of "you couldn't be bothered, you didn't have the time for all that", and that instead you gave him the names of two posters who you claimed had received egregious treatment from me.

He contacted both, and asked for their stories. One never responded, and the other responded so weakly that Anand dismissed any claim of mistreatment as outright having ZERO basis in fact.



Lol, you still don't know until today, but you were fired before you ever resigned. You were lazy and capricious and unintentionally arrogant in your tenure as co-FD.

You were so bad that I brought a petition to Anand signed by ALL the active forum Admins except one asking for your dismissal, to be kindly disguised as your resignation so as to not unduly embarrass you, and Anand looked into it and agreed.

When you resigned ahead of that, Anand was relieved and called me with to tell me we'd "dodged a bullet."

HOLLY FUCKING SHIT. Your name is Dave!? I know something about an admin.

 

HamburgerBoy

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lol, as if that's what he's talking about

What is he talking about? The other accusations against him were about FS/T shenanigans, abuse of power, "malicious trolling", and... that's about it. All of those occurred on this forum.
 

Kirby

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What is he talking about? The other accusations against him were about FS/T shenanigans, abuse of power, "malicious trolling", and... that's about it. All of those occurred on this forum.

he's talking about other forums commenting on the mods/admin. not some coordinated goatse attack.
 

Greenman

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Mosh should have known better. She told me months back that PM's were compromised. GA was cretin to do himself in, it was just a matter of finding a long enough piece of rope.

The only bummer is that the central clearing house for all the AT dirt is gone. It was so handy being able to get the inside story with one click.

"She told me months back that PM's were compromised."

Another nose grower.
admin allisolm
 
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jTanked

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I missed the goatse attack? DAMMIT!


I gotta say, this thread has waffled between admin/mod misconduct as revealed by the screencaps, and accusations of overreaction. With direct attacks salted in.

Can someone put together a powerpoint? I'm having trouble visualizing the bullet points.
 

Locut0s

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Yet it's because of the past three days, and more specifically, because of this thread tonight, that NNFT has seen its traffic increase... exponentially?

So? If people want to play in the 3 year old sandbox fine with them. My point was simply that -->I<-- am not interested in that shit. For ME the moderating on here keeps this place civil enough for nice discussions which is why I post here and intend to keep posting.
 

jTanked

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Mosh should have known better. She told me months back that PM's were compromised. GA was cretin to do himself in, it was just a matter of finding a long enough piece of rope.

The only bummer is that the central clearing house for all the AT dirt is gone. It was so handy being able to get the inside story with one click.

WHO says it's gone? :sneaky:
 

Locut0s

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Now that the pics have been posted here, how are the comments that were made in them by a Forum Director toward a mod defensible?

It is obvious that a dossier/shitlist/whatever was being kept that noted things outside of the normal forum notes feature and items from that dossier/shitlist/whatever were brought into a discussion about sanctioning the mod.

To me that is an obvious abuse of power and clear indication that personal feelings are being brought into disciplinary discussions. Now, were they acted upon? I don't know, but the fact that they are even brought up is an abuse of power. If they were acted upon then it is an even worse abuse of power.

In either case I believe such actions cannot be defended and should not be acceptable to the admin staff here.

You clearly have no idea what abuse of power is.
 

M0oG0oGaiPan

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i was implying the mods wanted johncu out so they logged into his account and caused trouble so they could ban him . We could find out his ip by doing something like embedding an image on a host where we have access to logs but for the most part us users would assume it was johncu.
 

jTanked

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Just had a thought...

Didn't the stated policy of NOT reading users private messages protect AT from liability in association with any illegal dealings done via PM? Such as pirating movies or selling stolen goods? And wouldn't AT now be open to prosecution for facilitation since it's been stated that mods/admins read PMs?

I need to go send some PMs. BRB
 

Mike Gayner

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Having a discussion with my brother at the moment about the whole thing - I'll update people on what happened as I go.

It seems like he was banned over some pretty banal stuff....
 

Jeff7

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Don't know about Spaceman but Nemesis1 is right on, most of the time, I could not figure out what he was trying to say. Don't forget about Moonbeam on P&N when he got his groove on.
You need to look for more Spaceman threads.


You haven't experienced ATOT fully until you've been threading manpost a space in.
 

Mike Gayner

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OK so here's the basic story - I won't name any names or go into specifics. BTW my bro (GA) has no motive to lie to bend the truth - he doesn't really care about being banned and doesn't hold any grudges or anything (on Skype with him at the moment).

- GA saw this thread so went on over to the open mod forums to check it out.
- He posted early on in this thread that he was taking a look.
- Many members saw that he was noseying around and PM'd asking if he found anything juicy.
- My bro says the mod forum was completely banal and he didn't find a single interesting thing. There were a couple of anal retentive thread-starters who complained constantly and a couple of users who had a habitual history of bitching about others. I asked him to forward me anything worth having but he says there's really nothing worth looking at.
- In response to some PM's he basically told people how lame it was and there's nothing worth discussing. My bro and Mosh have a bit of a history so they were joking and PM'ing back and forward about some of the lamer users and their hilarious discussions with mods.
- There was nothing malicious and no scheming to take down the system or anything stupid like that. It was completely pedestrian.
- He doesn't think Mosh actually saw or disseminated anything.

He also says that the mods are free to divulge his entire PM history to support all of this - he doesn't really care.
 

Red Dawn

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What is he talking about? The other accusations against him were about FS/T shenanigans, abuse of power, "malicious trolling", and... that's about it. All of those occurred on this forum.

Allegedly, look at my Heatware, 365 and 0 and that's just a fraction of the deals I made, all stellar. There was no abuse of power, just false accusations made by a person who let his emotions get the better of him. If you really want to find out just ask Olds, we disagreed a lot but he's honest and I think he'd verfiy what I'm saying. Now if you were to question me as a team player you'd have a good argument, I wasn't and is why I'm no longer an Admin and that's fine. Life is much better for me here that I don't have to deal with the BS, both internally and externally.

You know after years and years of being a member of the staff being part of the backroom running of the site gets kind of addicting, enough to make you forget what it's like just to be a member. I mean it's interesting and all but there is also a lot of crap that you really don't need. If you were to ask any ex staff member they'd probably say the same thing, they are all glad they are no longer part of the staff. It's like this thread and drama, I'm sure the staff is really hating this. They are all under attack for doing what they felt was right. Agree with them or not, most aren't being vindictive, they are just isolatede from the membership and develop and Us vs Them attitude, something that often happens with Cops. It's not that they are assholes,in fact for most it's the opposite, they feel that they are constantly under attack and devolop what is called a Bunker Mentality. Keep in mind none of these people get paid, aside from the occasional hand me downs from Anand that may or may not work.. You definitely need to cut them some slack
 

Kirby

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Apr 10, 2006
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OK so here's the basic story - I won't name any names or go into specifics. BTW my bro (GA) has no motive to lie to bend the truth - he doesn't really care about being banned and doesn't hold any grudges or anything (on Skype with him at the moment).

- GA saw this thread so went on over to the open mod forums to check it out.
- He posted early on in this thread that he was taking a look.
- Many members saw that he was noseying around and PM'd asking if he found anything juicy.
- My bro says the mod forum was completely banal and he didn't find a single interesting thing. There were a couple of anal retentive thread-starters who complained constantly and a couple of users who had a habitual history of bitching about others. I asked him to forward me anything worth having but he says there's really nothing worth looking at.
- In response to some PM's he basically told people how lame it was and there's nothing worth discussing. My bro and Mosh have a bit of a history so they were joking and PM'ing back and forward about some of the lamer users and their hilarious discussions with mods.
- There was nothing malicious and no scheming to take down the system or anything stupid like that. It was completely pedestrian.
- He doesn't think Mosh actually saw or disseminated anything.

He also says that the mods are free to divulge his entire PM history to support all of this - he doesn't really care.

i thnk everyone suspected as much
 

lupi

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Apr 8, 2001
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Given the obvious visible changes to the forum over the last many months, I'm only shocked so many are surprised by these types of actions.
 

Red Dawn

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Yeah, weren't you too busy organizing your jihad?

Lol, I can't even organize a sock drawer let alone some "Jihad".That was just a staff member venting his frustration over the smack I was laying down about him at another forum. It's just personal shit, nothing that was meant for the membership to see.
 
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