Am I the only one that thinks the Ipod sucks?

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: sheik124
Gurck, stop it with the half-assed claims, QuickTime does NOT force you to set any file-types, PERIOD. Just as WMP and WinAmp do, it allows you to choose which filetypes to associate with QuickTime, if you're too incompetent to install QT, then why are you even here?

I'm perfectly competent, but thanks for the jab... sucks to have to do that when you have no argument, yes? Had you actually read the post (second time you've responded without doing so, I'm starting to wonder about your literacy level), you'd see I'm referring to the average user, who indeed doesn't know how to uninstall it. Again, it gives you the option whether or not to reset your file associations; the problem is that regardless of your choice, it resets them. You would know this had you even tried using a different player, but then I'm sure it's easy to sit there creaming your shorts about how much Apple "rulz" becuase of their image, paid for by advertising dollars, and to knock the competition without even having any knowledge of or experience with it..

Uhh I just installed Quicktime onto my Windows PC and it did not reset the file associations after I told it not to. I like you how bash a company based conspiracy theories you read on some 1337 undergr0und messageboard.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Uhh I just installed Quicktime onto my Windows PC and it did not reset the file associations after I told it not to. I like you how bash a company based conspiracy theories you read on some 1337 undergr0und messageboard.

I did? And here I thought firsthand experience with it was what mattered...

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Uhh I just installed Quicktime onto my Windows PC and it did not reset the file associations after I told it not to. I like you how bash a company based conspiracy theories you read on some 1337 undergr0und messageboard.

I did? And here I thought firsthand experience with it was what mattered...

I'm surprised your mom let you on the family computer long enough to mess around with a program like quicktime. Based on your ability and age, I'd say Quicktime is just a little too advanced for you. That would explain these non-existant problems you've been having.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Uhh I just installed Quicktime onto my Windows PC and it did not reset the file associations after I told it not to. I like you how bash a company based conspiracy theories you read on some 1337 undergr0und messageboard.

I did? And here I thought firsthand experience with it was what mattered...

I'm surprised your mom let you on the family computer long enough to mess around with a program like quicktime. Based on your ability and age, I'd say Quicktime is just a little too advanced for you. That would explain these non-existant problems you've been having.

This from the forum's resident unsupervised middle schooler?

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Uhh I just installed Quicktime onto my Windows PC and it did not reset the file associations after I told it not to. I like you how bash a company based conspiracy theories you read on some 1337 undergr0und messageboard.

I did? And here I thought firsthand experience with it was what mattered...

I'm surprised your mom let you on the family computer long enough to mess around with a program like quicktime. Based on your ability and age, I'd say Quicktime is just a little too advanced for you. That would explain these non-existant problems you've been having.

This from the forum's resident unsupervised middle schooler?

Last I checked I wasn't your older brother

 

[PhoenixPyre]

I like the iPod because the user interface is so much better than any other mp3 player I've ever tried and Auto-Sync is easy to use and incredibly convenient. Seems like Microsoft likes iPods, too.
http://wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,66460,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_2

 

[Schneider879]

Originally posted by: PhoenixPyre
I like the iPod because the user interface is so much better than any other mp3 player I've ever tried and Auto-Sync is easy to use and incredibly convenient. Seems like Microsoft likes iPods, too.
http://wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,66460,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_2

Why wouldn't they?

 

[onlyCOpunk]

I got an iPod a while ago when they were offering a $200 with the purchase of a laptop. Great deal, but after a year and half the hard drive is screwed. So while I enjoy the ease of use of the iPod, I will never buy one again.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Schneider879

Originally posted by: PhoenixPyre
I like the iPod because the user interface is so much better than any other mp3 player I've ever tried and Auto-Sync is easy to use and incredibly convenient. Seems like Microsoft likes iPods, too.
http://wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,66460,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_2

Why wouldn't they?

Because it is a sign of weakness for the company as a whole if your employees are purchasing the competitors product.

And to Gurck: Wow man. You have really sunk quite low in this thread. It was nice when we argued fruitfully (to an extent mind you ) but your presentation is only hurting iteself through your incessant trolling.

We all understand that you are not by any means infatuated with the product. We kind of found that out for ourselves. That said, your arguments trail off into shrewd personal attacks that ultimately ruin your credibility. It seems like you are a competent adult (I think you once said you were in your 30s), so this is inexcusable. I wouldn't tolerate any such behavior from ANY member.

Examples of your statements:

This from the forum's resident unsupervised middle schooler?

Probably less than you've spent watching IQ-attack TV programming...

Just taking a guess at what other things you might be doing

Now here and there you do offer a slither of competent arguments such as:

Software isn't a factor at all, though a file manager and a quality PC player like foobar are better than itunes fwiw.

That said, you do not go anywhere with it. On a lively discussion board such as this one, it should be your prerogative to not only refute that with which you do not agree with, but offer a counter point in the form of a competent defense, which you always shy away from.

Stop attacking people, and start defending your MS-DRM capable players and software if you want respect and legitimate discussion.

I have tried on countless occasions to discuss why I think software is important. You shoot me down along with others, responding with, frankly, utter garbage, criticizing almost everyone and everything. That's just not cool man.

Over the years I have gained a lot from this board, and frankly, it has been from people with dispositions different than your own, or at least the one you present here. The people who have made this board great are the ones who show no sense of an "axe to grind," who even go as far as to openly evaluate their own defense in the open out of confidence and fairness.

I know I am dragging this out too far, but it is because I care. I really would like to have an honest debate/discussion about DAPs, the future of music distribution with anyone and everyone on here. That said, if you continue to state fiction as fact, blow events out of proportion, such as the QuickTime thing, legitimate debate will not thrive.


That said, with QuickTime, the current settings do not automatically reassign file associations. In the past, Icons would change, and at one point file associations, but that has since changed.

That said, I find it quite convenient for you to exclude any discussion of how competitors deal with file association. It would have been nice if you had mentioned how by default, Windows Media Player, Real Player, Winamp, and a whole host of other programs DO in fact reset your File associations.

Is having our file associations changed automatically a good thing? Well, such a question is exactly what this board is meant for. That said, it totally destroys your QuickTime argument, but not for the reason that most might think. What is does is show how you aren?t willing to be unbiased. You are finding a point, sticking to it, and ignoring all arguments.

Remember, we are all here to interact and to learn.

Fvking interact civilly dammnit

 

[SuperTool]

Ipod is the BMW 3-series of MP3 players.

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Damn ladies and gents...

Quite the tiff going on up in this joint!

Phillipine Mango is a silly, silly guy.

A few thoughts/contributions:

1. Filemaker PRO >> Access (just my opinion but shared by most who are in a position to know)

2. Mac users need to stop fighting the truth-- there are huge weak areas in the Mac software portfolio: engineering design software like ProEngineer/Wildfire, SolidWorks, chemical engineering simulation software is one example.

3. Mac OS X stock tracking software:

take your pick plus hook that up with some RSS feeds and BAM!, you got your own little stock trading suite/studio/whatever...I hear BlueChip is pretty nice and cost a tremendous $12.

Plus you can extend something like BlueChip using Applescript really easy.


Finally, a question or two:

With a player like the River H340 or iaudio whatever...is there any other way to setup playlists other than via the device interface. With the iPod, playlists can be setup in iTunes really easy.

thanks in advance.


BTW...my wife has an iPod mini and loves it...seems to work just fine.

Cheers!

I find it quite appalling that you would compare bloomberg to those cheap useless freeware programs.... Bloomberg is so much more then just ticker symbols.... It provides up to the minute news and has info about companies dating back to the early 80s. I personally like access better despite some (you guys) thinking that file maker pro is better... It's all about preference, some like the macs because of the interface and the same can be said with the PC. The best part of access is the integration it has with other M$ applications. While too much integration is bad, it's still nice to be able to import files from one program into another with no problems.

 

[Yo Ma Ma]

I wouldn't turn down a free one.

 

[konakona]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Ipod is the BMW 3-series of MP3 players.

in the midst of ferraris, lambos, mclarens... looks a bit shabby to me

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: Yo_Ma-Ma
I wouldn't turn down a free one.

Why the hell did you revive the backalley abortion of a thread

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Ipod is the BMW 3-series of MP3 players.

pre- or post-Bangle?

 

These threads are always funny.

Part of the whole draw of the ipod/itunes thing is that the whole process is incredibly easy.

The average joe family can use it all together with little to no effort.
Joe family doesn't have time to worry about which device to get, what file manager to use in conjunction with what media player, while worrying if they are getting a high enough bit rate so their headphones frequency responce is within acceptable operating ranges.

Always remember that the vast majority of the population doesn't give a rats ass about the finer points of technology.

 

[konakona]

Originally posted by: SampSon
These threads are always funny.

Part of the whole draw of the ipod/itunes thing is that the whole process is incredibly easy.

The average joe family can use it all together with little to no effort.
Joe family doesn't have time to worry about which device to get, what file manager to use in conjunction with what media player, while worrying if they are getting a high enough bit rate so their headphones frequency responce is within acceptable operating ranges.

Always remember that the vast majority of the population doesn't give a rats ass about the finer points of technology.

i agree wholeheartedly. except i thought people at ATOT would be a tad bit more technologically capable. honestly, i really dont think its matter of convinience; more like those who never figure out how to use TV remotes. any np3 player is rather easy to use once you bother going thru the manual once, provided you have some common sense (something an 'average joe' may lack). so again, i-pod is a fine product for the intended market, but luckily i know there isnt a whole lot to this 'ease of use' bs.

 

[So]

Well, all I can say is:

I have an iPod and am very happy with it. I could easily imagine being happy with another HD based mp3 player, and I'd recommend the iPod along with the Zen and a few others to someone who asked me for advice. Being a fanatic about an MP3 player seems...well...silly to me.

That said, the shuffle bothers me, simply because (IMO) a deficiency is being markerd as a feature.

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: So
Well, all I can say is:

I have an iPod and am very happy with it. I could easily imagine being happy with another HD based mp3 player, and I'd recommend the iPod along with the Zen and a few others to someone who asked me for advice. Being a fanatic about an MP3 player seems...well...silly to me.

That said, the shuffle bothers me, simply because (IMO) a deficiency is being markerd as a feature.

i never was able to adapt to the 4th gen's touchpad thingy. sometimes it would move too slow, sometimes too fast. pissed me off. anyway, sound quality isnt as good as say rio or creative, but for the intended audience, its a genius product. easy,? check. shiny/sexy? check. good advertising campagin? hell yea check.

too bad, for me, ive been spoiled by the wma/flac/wav and gapless ogg/mp3 support. i'll never go back to just mp3/wav and apple formats.

 

[hans030390]

I've seen ipods...personally, I think they're ugly. The interface is bland, and the touchwheel....wtf? what is up with that? why can't you just go up or down and not have to go in circles? it reminds me of DDR (dance dance revolution) when you pick a song...plus, the play/stop/whatever buttons are on the touch wheel...why? what if you accidentally press them? It looks stupid...plus, the battery life could be better

I'd recommend a Creative Zen Touch...I've messed with one, the interface looks nice, the scroll bar is nice (and not too sensitive like some make it to be), and has a great battery life (so it's a tad bigger)...personally, I think a little extra weight is worth the 12 extra battery life hours...oh, and did I mention it looks good and is $70 less than an Ipod???

Ok, so for the normal person, the Ipod might be one of the most polished, very good all around mp3 players (and it's popular....but thats stupid), but why waste the money? you can get a better or equal mp3 player for less....thats why I hate ipods.

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: hans030390
I've seen ipods...personally, I think they're ugly. The interface is bland, and the touchwheel....wtf? what is up with that? why can't you just go up or down and not have to go in circles? it reminds me of DDR (dance dance revolution) when you pick a song...plus, the play/stop/whatever buttons are on the touch wheel...why? what if you accidentally press them? It looks stupid...plus, the battery life could be better

I'd recommend a Creative Zen Touch...I've messed with one, the interface looks nice, the scroll bar is nice (and not too sensitive like some make it to be), and has a great battery life (so it's a tad bigger)...personally, I think a little extra weight is worth the 12 extra battery life hours...oh, and did I mention it looks good and is $70 less than an Ipod???

Ok, so for the normal person, the Ipod might be one of the most polished, very good all around mp3 players (and it's popular....but thats stupid), but why waste the money? you can get a better or equal mp3 player for less....thats why I hate ipods.

i dont like the touch interface at all. too finickey for me. i'd rather have the scroll wheel like on my mice and rio karma. much more natural.

i tried a zent touch. much more responsive touchpad than a ipod with some touch feedback as far as the ridges go, but 5gb isnt enough.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: hans030390
I've seen ipods...personally, I think they're ugly. The interface is bland, and the touchwheel....wtf? what is up with that? why can't you just go up or down and not have to go in circles? it reminds me of DDR (dance dance revolution) when you pick a song...plus, the play/stop/whatever buttons are on the touch wheel...why? what if you accidentally press them? It looks stupid...plus, the battery life could be better

I'd recommend a Creative Zen Touch...I've messed with one, the interface looks nice, the scroll bar is nice (and not too sensitive like some make it to be), and has a great battery life (so it's a tad bigger)...personally, I think a little extra weight is worth the 12 extra battery life hours...oh, and did I mention it looks good and is $70 less than an Ipod???

Ok, so for the normal person, the Ipod might be one of the most polished, very good all around mp3 players (and it's popular....but thats stupid), but why waste the money? you can get a better or equal mp3 player for less....thats why I hate ipods.

Hate is such a strong word.

 

[imported_rayc]

i don't think ipods suck. they serve their purpose. besides people trying to be non-conformist, i think the beef is that they seem to be more $$$ than other mp3 players. fair assessment. i didn't opt to buy one myself because of that reason. i got mine as a gift.

 

[Philippine Mango]

bump

 

[suse920]

Ah the good old days of Gurk.. oh an nano is the shiznit