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Smoblikat

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Now that I see this post, I should do a suicide run on my 2500k chip. Yesterday I ran 4.6ghz on 1.20v trying to make it unstable which I couldn't! I ran 20 passes of "high" IBT with AVX and it would not crash.

My 2700k will be here and I bet it won't o/c as good but I want HT for the GTX 680.

Thats the only thing keeping me from getting a 2600K. Is that i will never get another chip that clocks as well as mine does
 

Kenmitch

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I looked at that and it didnt explain it very well. I know its an extension, and its for codes. But what does it actually do, any why is it better?

Heres a quote from the following intel link. http://software.intel.com/en-us/avx/

Intel® AVX is a new 256 bit instruction set extension to SSE and is designed for applications that are Floating Point (FP) intensive. It was released early 2011 as part of the Sandy Bridge processor family and is present in platforms ranging from notebooks to servers. Intel AVX improves performance due to wider vectors, new extensible syntax, and rich functionality. This results in better management of data and general purpose applications like image, audio/video processing, scientific simulations, financial analytics and 3D modeling and analysis.

Here a quote from the following link http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/utilizing-intel-avx-with-cakewalk-sonar-x1/

Measurable Intel® AVX performance gains in SONAR* X1

SONAR* X1, the latest generation of the SONAR* product family, has code optimized for Intel® AVX enabled processors. Running on a processor such as in the Intel® Core™ processor family, Cakewalk* saw CPU gains while playing back projects which exercise the optimizations described earlier.
To verify Intel® AVX gains Intel engineers tested the following workloads on2.2GHz Intel® Core™ software development vehicles configured in Table 1, running at 2ms audio latency. Measurements were performed by measuring CPU cycles spent with and without Intel® AVX. The non AVX test was performed by disabling AVX in the BIOS.

HardwareOSMemoryCakewalk*Intel® Core™ 2.2 GHZ64-bit Windows 74 GBSONAR* X1

Workload- A was a project with several audio tracks and plug-ins typically used in high track count benchmarks. In this workload, CPU cycles were reduced by 1.23x or a net gain of 23% CPU bandwidth, when running with Intel® AVX enabled as compared to AVX disabled.
Workload- B was another benchmark project with several plug-ins used for high plug-in count benchmarks. In this workload we noted a reduction of CPU cycles by CPU cycles by 1.44x or a net gain of 44% CPU bandwidth, with AVX enabled.
Workload- C was a real world multi-track project from the SONAR* sample content disk. In this workload we observed a reduction of CPU cycles by 1.10x or a net gain of 10% CPU bandwidth, with AVX enabled.

It does look like it has advantages that can be implemented in software. It's just a matter of if any software you use, want to use, or may need to use in the future has been optimized to take advantage of it.
 

Smoblikat

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Heres a quote from the following intel link. http://software.intel.com/en-us/avx/



Here a quote from the following link http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/utilizing-intel-avx-with-cakewalk-sonar-x1/



It does look like it has advantages that can be implemented in software. It's just a matter of if any software you use, want to use, or may need to use in the future has been optimized to take advantage of it.

Wait, i might be understanding this wrong, but it said FLOPS, which wouldnt that help with encoding video? Like a graphics card..................but which is better, my 2500K or my GTX470 for video encoding w/AVX
 

Kenmitch

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Wait, i might be understanding this wrong, but it said FLOPS, which wouldnt that help with encoding video? Like a graphics card..................but which is better, my 2500K or my GTX470 for video encoding w/AVX

I'm not really into encoding video so I wouldn't know which would be faster.

Video encoding is one thing that can benefit from AVX as long as the app has been optimized to take advantage of it.
 

Smoblikat

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I'm not really into encoding video so I wouldn't know which would be faster.

Video encoding is one thing that can benefit from AVX as long as the app has been optimized to take advantage of it.

Thats interesting. Ive been getting into video making/editing of late, and i might switch over to a CPU platform if AVX will outperform my gtx470 (really my 9800GTX since ima game on my 470).
 

Rvenger

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I demand 24hr stable Prime95

No point. Just use the computer for a week and if it doesn't crash then its stable.

I have had instances where prime 95 said it was stable for 24hrs. I started to use it like normal then it crashed so I quit doing extensive runs. Its just a waste of electicity imo.
 

Borealis7

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i think a legitimate issue arises here: if you only use your computer for gaming, wouldn't it be beneficial to turn off AVX, and overclock more for better gaming performance and lower load temperature? i mean...if no game uses AVX anyway...
 

chimaxi83

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i think a legitimate issue arises here: if you only use your computer for gaming, wouldn't it be beneficial to turn off AVX, and overclock more for better gaming performance and lower load temperature? i mean...if no game uses AVX anyway...

You won't get better gaming performance overclocking to 5GHz with these chips, and since "no game uses AVX anyway", why worry about the load temperatures

Besides, it's an Intel feature that the processor supports, and Windows 7 Service Pack 1 just adds that support into Windows. OP there's nothing wrong with installing the Service Pack, all those bad things you say you heard are negated by the other millions of users who are using it just fine... unless that "this copy of Windows is not genuine" in your screenshot has something to do with it

Anyway though, like IDC said, you can't compare your temps to everyone else's, if you're not running the same test.
 

Rvenger

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Lol nice spot, I missed that. Seems to explain a few things....


Its really easy to get that message actually. Install windows with new motherboard, once in windows adjust the date and time and that message will pop right up on reboot. I never activate windows until the 180 day period expires just in case of issues.
 

Puppies04

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Its really easy to get that message actually. Install windows with new motherboard, once in windows adjust the date and time and that message will pop right up on reboot. I never activate windows until the 180 day period expires just in case of issues.

Actually it is even easier than that, just download a dodgy copy of windows and install.
 

PUN

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Seriously, what is the reason for 24hr prime run? why not 365days 24/7 prime run since it's up and running for more than those days.

Like grimpr and many have said, 30mins-2hrs are fine. Anything beyond that is just waste of electricity. Almost no applications come as intenstive as running prime. If your computer is stable for 30mins+ within reasonable temps, stop worrying.
 

Smoblikat

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Seriously, what is the reason for 24hr prime run? why not 365days 24/7 prime run since it's up and running for more than those days.

Like grimpr and many have said, 30mins-2hrs are fine. Anything beyond that is just waste of electricity. Almost no applications come as intenstive as running prime. If your computer is stable for 30mins+ within reasonable temps, stop worrying.

I agree

how do you not have that running?

I dont have SP1 installed, i dont need/want it.
 

chimaxi83

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Might be able to tell in CPU-Z, where it lists the feature flags. Or run IBT.

But like Kenmitch said, if SP1 is installed, then it just works.
 

Ferzerp

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Considering the first screenshot itself says "This copy of Windows is not genuine" that's a safe assumption.
 

stylez777

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5ghz is still damn good on an air cool with those temps.

Everyone has their own "quirk" about what is stable or not. If you can run all your software and games or do what ever it is you do on your PC and it doesn't crash seems stable enough to me.

My chip I can't go over 4.6ghz without a huge spike in temp so I run at 4.6ghz.
 
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