AM1 (FS1b) motherboards at Newegg!

VirtualLarry

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GIGABYTE GA-AM1M-S2H AM1 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
$34.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128696

MSI AM1I AM1 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Mini ITX AMD Motherboard
$34.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130759

ASUS AM1M-A AM1 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
$49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813132097

BIOSTAR AM1ML AM1 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
$34.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138401

BIOSTAR AM1MHP AM1 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
$37.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138399

ASRock AM1B-ITX AM1 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Mini ITX AMD Motherboard
$39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157490

ASRock AM1H-ITX AM1 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Mini ITX AMD Motherboard
$58.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157491

Note that these don't show up in Newegg's normal product listings yet. Searches for "AM1" or "FSB1" don't return any mobo hits either. (My bad, it's FS1b)

May I suggest this case?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811154115

The Asrock board is the only one with 4 SATA ports.

Newegg doesn't have the AM1 CPUs yet, but ProVantage does.

Edit: Found this link, through a combo deal (started a thread in Hot Deals about it).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819113366

Still looking for the link for the 5350 CPU at Newegg.

Edit: Newegg has four CPUs listed here:
http://promotions.newegg.com/amd/14-1701/index.html
 
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Waiting for the asrock board to appear on amazon(Gift Cards!). What a nifty platform, 4K out of the box on HDMI or DP1.2, Wish the DVI-D would support my 1440P monitor, but I am liking the options. Especially the DC input on the asrock board. It's a good excuse to obtain the new samsung monitor to test out the capabilities on this tiny platform.

Chances are if I wait a month prices will go down to MSRP, I hear the 5350 should only be $59, so save $6 if I wait. I remember overpaying for my 3570K cause I bought it at launch. Hopefully the motherboards come down a little as well.

I bought the e-350 itx board when it came out over two years ago, I remember trying to play SC2 on that, doable but painful. This platform might manage SC2 on low settings. I am sure it will feel a lot smoother for everyday task than my crummy crippled Celeron 847 board(That was only $70 for board and cpu). Nice thing about the celeron is I do have a lot of sata ports though. But this SOC on chip was made to minimize all that for power savings. I have an A6-1450 laptop, with double the base clock on this, I would love tyo give the 5350 a whirl.
 

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I just ordered the ASRock AM1H-ITX at and 5350 at NCIX. I plan on using an old 19V laptop adapter and adding in low profile DIMM's and at least a 128GB mPCIe SSD. I want to stuff it all into a into a tiny enclosure to sit alongside a high resolution display for basic research and development purposes.

By having the power fully externalized this should be easy enough to keep low profile.

Hopefully the heat sink that comes with the Athlon 5350 is low profile enough else I'll have to figure a way to jury rig my existing noctua low profile cooler I ripped off my FM2 build recently.

I'm hoping the entire unit consumes under 40W in normal load conditions which is nigh impossible with current FM2 platforms. This will be fun to play around with
 

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I just ordered the ASRock AM1H-ITX at and 5350 at NCIX. I plan on using an old 19V laptop adapter and adding in low profile DIMM's and at least a 128GB mPCIe SSD. I want to stuff it all into a into a tiny enclosure to sit alongside a high resolution display for basic research and development purposes.
mPCIe SSD? Not mSATA? Because the slot on that board is indeed mPCIe, and not mSATA.
 

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Madpacket

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mPCIe SSD? Not mSATA? Because the slot on that board is indeed mPCIe, and not mSATA.

Good catch, thanks for the correction. Plan B is to use a 7.5mm Samsung SSD on normal sata port and use the mPCIe for an Intel Wireless AC adapter. This will probably be a better configuration anyway given the limited number of available USB ports.
 

cbn

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No offense, but WTH is the point of that board? No 2nd pair of SATA ports, no front-panel USB3.0, no HDMI, no DVI... and yet, it's the same price as their ITX board with all of those features? All that sacrifice, just for an additional PCI-E x1 slot?

I noticed the price has been reduced to $33.99.

So yeah..... lower price for less features makes sense to me.
 

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Besides the ASUS AM1I-A, do we know which of the other boards support cpu overclocking? Eventually I like a budget board for use with overclocking a Sempron 2650.

Also does anyone have information on ECC support or upcoming ECC support on AM1 boards?
 

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Besides the ASUS AM1I-A, do we know which of the other boards support cpu overclocking? Eventually I like a budget board for use with overclocking a Sempron 2650.

Also does anyone have information on ECC support or upcoming ECC support on AM1 boards?

The AsRock boards do not currently support any sort of overclocking. The MSI board apparently can overlock a very small amount (2050 to 2100) but allows you to up the GPU speeds. I'm not sure of the others' but would be nice if someone who had access to all of these boards would mention the overclocking capabilities.
 

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I just ordered the ASRock AM1H-ITX at and 5350 at NCIX. I plan on using an old 19V laptop adapter and adding in low profile DIMM's and at least a 128GB mPCIe SSD. I want to stuff it all into a into a tiny enclosure to sit alongside a high resolution display for basic research and development purposes.
......

How do you plan to use the laptop adapter instead of a normal psu?
 

cbn

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Though these are BGA Kabini, (not AM1 socketed Kabini) I thought I would include them in this thread for comparison sake:

(The Biostar is a A4-5000 and the Gigabyte is a E1-2100)

http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=712







http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4976#ov





Source: http://www.fanlesstech.com/2014/04/a-duo-of-kabini-motherboards.html

These BGA Kabini boards are in addition to the existing ECS BGA Kabini already found at Newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813135364



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813135363

 

alexruiz

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They seem tempting.
What I wonder, and that is something Anand didn't test (or anyone else for that matter) is how it stacks against an A6-6400k, a dual core part clocked at 3.9 GHz that can be had for comparable costs.

Right now I am putting a low cost PC together (web browsing and office use) and I am thorn in between a Kabini Athlon 5350 and FS1b board vs. an A6-6400k and FM2 board...
 

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They seem tempting.
What I wonder, and that is something Anand didn't test (or anyone else for that matter) is how it stacks against an A6-6400k, a dual core part clocked at 3.9 GHz that can be had for comparable costs.

Right now I am putting a low cost PC together (web browsing and office use) and I am thorn in between a Kabini Athlon 5350 and FS1b board vs. an A6-6400k and FM2 board...

What FM2 motherboard do you want to use?

P.S. If you are looking for a cheaper FM2 cpu there is also the A4-4000 richland (3.2 Ghz dual core) for $45 at Newegg. It is actually an interesting comparison to Kabini because it has the same 128 stream processor for the iGPU.
 

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Comparing Pass mark scores:

A6-6400K : 2394 cpu marks http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A6-6400K+APU&id=1960

Athlon 5350: 2639 cpu marks http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Athlon+5350+APU+with+Radeon+R3&id=2195

Keep in mind those scores are for multi-thread. If using a predominately single threaded browser like Firefox you might want to keep that in mind.

The A6-6400K has the better iGPU (192 stream processors clocked at 800 Mhz vs. Athlon 5350's 128 stream processors at 600 Mhz) , but I am not sure how much this difference will matter for web browsing.

Main thing about Kabini is that it allows the Mini-ITX form factor at a much lower price point than FM2/FM2+. Also, even the cheapest of AM1 Mini-ITX boards (the $32 Biostar for example) come with usb 3.0 and SATA 6 Gbps (although you only get two SATA ports).
 
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cbn

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Another A4-5000 BGA Kabini, the Asrock QC5000-ITX/WiFi:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/QC5000-ITXWiFi/







D-Sub
DVI-D
HDMI 4K x 2K (4096x2160) @ 24Hz or 4K x 2K (3840x2160) @ 30Hz
DisplayPort (4096x2160) @ 30Hz

four SATA 6 Gbps ports (two are native to the SOC, the other two SATA 6 Gbps ports come from Asmedia ASM1061)
 

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Newegg:

Athlon 5350: $64.99 FS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819113364

Athlon 5150 $54.99 FS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819113365

Sempron 3850 $44.99 plus $1.99 shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819113366

Sempron 2650 $39.99 plus $.99 shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819113366

Amazon:

Athlon 5350 $64.29 FS http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IOMFAQ0/...xtension-kb-20

Athlon 5150 $54.56 FS http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IOMFAPG/...xtension-kb-20

Sempron 3850 $36.00 FS http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IOMFFUG/...xtension-kb-20

Sempron 2650 $31.00 (FS with orders over $35) http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IOMFFYM/...xtension-kb-20

Looks like Semprons are a good deal cheaper on Amazon.
 
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cbn

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According to this list, more AM1 motherboards could be on the way:



^^^^ Four Biostar boards, one ECS and two Gigabytes from that list are not included in the current AM1 crop at Newegg.
 
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cbn

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Another E1-2100 BGA Kabini, the Biostar A68N-2100:

(This, along with the ECS KBN-I/2100 and Gigabyte E2100N, increases the total number of E1-2100 boards to three)

http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=711#spec





It appears to be identical to the Biostar A68N-5000 (A4-5000 APU) with the exception of having a much smaller passive heatsink.

P.S. I wonder if we will end up seeing any E1-2500 (1.4 Ghz dual core Jaguar, 400 Mhz 128 SP GCN iGPU) and E2-3000 (1.65 Ghz dual core Jaguar, 450 Mhz 128 SP GCN iGPU) processor versions of the various BGA Kabini boards?
 
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cbn

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Something to think about: With AM1 launching at $62 for a motherboard and Sempron 2650 combo, I wonder how much the two new E1-2100 boards will sell for?

In March 2014 we saw ECS sell the KBN-1/2100 for $31.99 AR at Newegg......and now Gigabyte and Biostar are showing E1-2100 units on their website.

It makes me wonder what the expected retail will be for these?

One advantage the BGA does have over the AM1 is a passive heatsink, but then, of course, the E1-2100 processor is much lower performance (compared to even the Sempron 2650) and not upgradeable.
 

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Nice thread, watching closely to see what one of these I will want...
 

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On Newegg in the reviews of that Asus board, someone said they overclocked the 1.6ghz quad to 2ghz. I'm wondering what I could get the 2.05 up to....
 

alexruiz

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What FM2 motherboard do you want to use?

P.S. If you are looking for a cheaper FM2 cpu there is also the A4-4000 richland (3.2 Ghz dual core) for $45 at Newegg. It is actually an interesting comparison to Kabini because it has the same 128 stream processor for the iGPU.

Thanks for the info, still on the fence deciding.
I was planning on a Gigabyte A55 board
 

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