Amazon dropping 10,000 affiliates in California

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Lifer
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Amazon is full of bleep. You gotta collect taxes. I have zero problem with this. For years we have lived high off the hog. This is a legitmate right of the state and they should hold their ground here.
 

Nebor

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Amazon is full of bleep. You gotta collect taxes. I have zero problem with this. For years we have lived high off the hog. This is a legitmate right of the state and they should hold their ground here.

But California can't do this by itself. All they've done is cost their state jobs and revenue. Businesses will just go elsewhere.
 

RampantAndroid

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Amazon is full of bleep. You gotta collect taxes. I have zero problem with this. For years we have lived high off the hog. This is a legitmate right of the state and they should hold their ground here.

So you have zero problem with California violating a supreme court decision from 1992? CA is in direct violation of the US Constitution.
 
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So you have zero problem with California violating a supreme court decision from 1992? CA is in direct violation of the US Constitution.

How is it violating that decision? CA is saying that affiliates and what-not constitute a nexus. The USSC has not ruled on that, merely that a company has to fulfill this somewhat ambiguous concept of having a nexus within a state to be subject to sales tax collection rules.
 

senseamp

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They can affiliate with another retailer that is not a tax-dodge enabler. No big loss.
 

Hacp

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Amazon is full of bleep. You gotta collect taxes. I have zero problem with this. For years we have lived high off the hog. This is a legitmate right of the state and they should hold their ground here.
If you love paying taxes, you go on right ahead. Meanwhile, I don't like people who advocate policies that takes money from my pocket. If I took 200 dollars from you and gave it to my friend, its called stealing. When the government takes 200 dollars and gives it its friends, that's legal?
 

senseamp

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This is exactly why proposals that we eliminate income tax and replace it with a sales tax are laughable.
 

BoomerD

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If you love paying taxes, you go on right ahead. Meanwhile, I don't like people who advocate policies that takes money from my pocket. If I took 200 dollars from you and gave it to my friend, its called stealing. When the government takes 200 dollars and gives it its friends, that's legal?

Yet, you seemed to think it was OK to steal your roommate's ice cream...and replaced it with some cheap knock off brand in an attempt to avoid being caught...

You have no moral ground to bitch about anyone stealing.
 

Nebor

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This is exactly why proposals that we eliminate income tax and replace it with a sales tax are laughable.

Well we really just say that in an effort to expedite the collapse of the country as you know it. Starve the beast to the point of collapse, then BAM Patriot Act II.
 

Queasy

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This is exactly why proposals that we eliminate income tax and replace it with a sales tax are laughable.

Why? The Fair Tax, for example, applies to online sales as well and would be across the board for every state.
 

BoomerD

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Why? The Fair Tax, for example, applies to online sales as well and would be across the board for every state.

Fair tax? ROFLMFAO....there is no such thing. It doesn't matter which end of the spectrum you're on...every taxation scheme will be unfair to someone...or at least, will SEEM unfair to someone.
The "Fair Tax" is only "fair" for the wealthy...because it will mean they pay less than they do now.
 

Queasy

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Fair tax? ROFLMFAO....there is no such thing. It doesn't matter which end of the spectrum you're on...every taxation scheme will be unfair to someone...or at least, will SEEM unfair to someone.
The "Fair Tax" is only "fair" for the wealthy...because it will mean they pay less than they do now.

Yeah, I'm not going to get into a debate about the Fair Tax proposal. I was specifically asking senseamp why a national sales tax would be laughable since it would be applied to both online and retail store sales.
 

abaez

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How is it violating that decision? CA is saying that affiliates and what-not constitute a nexus. The USSC has not ruled on that, merely that a company has to fulfill this somewhat ambiguous concept of having a nexus within a state to be subject to sales tax collection rules.

And if CA thinks that Amazon's affiliates are a nexus, they have EVERY right to end that affiliate program if they want to.
 

thescreensavers

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Its down! They want their tax money lol, what is the world comming too! Expandable infrastructure.... lol

Update: Its backup, it went down for 5 min, hmm Who tripped over the power cable.
 
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0roo0roo

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If you love paying taxes, you go on right ahead. Meanwhile, I don't like people who advocate policies that takes money from my pocket. If I took 200 dollars from you and gave it to my friend, its called stealing. When the government takes 200 dollars and gives it its friends, that's legal?

which is nice and all but wars and schools have to be paid for, that is real world stuff outside of your little rage bubble.
 

Bateluer

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Still up for me. If Anonymous can't bring down Amazon, you think the State of California can?
 

highland145

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dunno if the state nets or not. south carolina apparently is cutting its nose off to spite its face, but seeing as how there's about 5 people that actually live in that backwater they certainly don't have the volume of ordering that texas does. of course, if they do close the facility we'll have neither the jobs nor the taxes. sounds like manufacturing in china.


the only way this whole catalog sales tax mess gets sorted out is with federal action.
Yep. Me and my 4 cousins. And they are hot.

How so with the nose/face?
 

MotF Bane

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And you owe use tax on it.

If you don't pay, you're breaking the law and a tax evader.

Nothing wrong with tax evasion, as evidenced by the antics of our esteemed politicians, who are so wise and know what is best for us.
 

Anubis

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But if given the choice of buying your $3000 TV from Frys.com, or bestbuy.com, and paying state sales tax, or buying it from amazon.com or J&R electronics and saving $240, what are you going to do?

i live in NY i dont have a choice i pay tax on everything. however even with tax online is generally cheaper and less annoying then dealing with nearly all B&M stores
 
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