Amazon dropping 10,000 affiliates in California

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BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Holy sht, a lesson on taxes! The point that went over your head is that income tax is more than enough for these states to survive. It's called budgeting, something California cannot do.

How do the 4 states that don't require sales tax survive in this brave new world? THINK OF THE FIREMEN, POLICE AND CHILDREN! /roll Fiscal liberals sicken me.


Let's see...the 5 states that don't have state sales taxes are: (and their rank in total tax burden on its citizens)


Alaska #22
Delaware #5
Montana #37
New Hampshire #47
Oregon #40​

Although Alaska does not have a state sales tax, it does allow localities to impose sales taxes, which range from 1% to 7%. Delaware does not have a sales tax, but does impose a gross receipts tax on businesses that can be as high as 2.07% of the total receipts from goods sold and services rendered in the state. This tax is generally not passed on to the consumer.

California...#9 on the list.

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/eco_tot_tax_bur-total-tax-burden-per-capita
 
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All your articles are months old, pre-dating Texas' new budget. All social and education programs were cut to the bone. A couple billion was taken out of the state's savings fund. Deficit was eliminated.

Thanks for the info. I don't watch the news but now I can go back to my pointing and laughing at California. :biggrin:
 

ElFenix

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I might not have been clear. Amazon is staying.

ah, ok.

are you the state with the indian chick for governor?


we're familiar with do-nothing governors over here. that's the kind of governor we like. when they do things it tends to be along the lines of selling the highways to the spanish and causing shortages of hair care products. can't have that.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
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Thanks for the info. I don't watch the news but now I can go back to my pointing and laughing at California. :biggrin:

Closing current gap

Lawmakers dipped into the rainy day fund for about $3.2 billion, the amount blessed by Perry to help meet a part of the shortfall due to a deficit this fiscal year.

They also made about $700 million worth of cuts to close the current fiscal year's budget gap.

To help ease the rest of the shortfall through the next two years, they used what Democrats called "funny money," including leaving up to $4.8 billion in projected Medicaid costs unfunded. Lawmakers are hoping for a federal waiver that would allow another $700 million in Medicaid savings.

The accounting maneuver of pushing back a state school payment would provide about $2 billion.

Budget staff said other revenue raisers, such as allowing unclaimed property to revert more quickly to the state, will yield more than $1 billion. Lawmakers also are assuming that school property values will rise, freeing another $800 million.

The budget would ease some of the deepest cuts originally proposed by the House, which passed a bare-bones budget that would have shorted school districts about $8 billion compared with what they could expect under current formulas and made Medicaid reimbursement rate cuts to nursing homes that threatened closure of many facilities.

Rep. Sylvester Turner, D-Houston, said, "This budget is shaky at its best. And for all of our conservative friends: No taxes, true. No rainy day fund, true. But the deferrals, deficit spending ... and funding that's questionable, all exist."

Sen. Mario Gallegos, D-Houston, added, "My school districts right now are gearing up for tax hikes to cover these cuts."

Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7585876.html#ixzz1Qsb1TC4q
Closing current gap

Lawmakers dipped into the rainy day fund for about $3.2 billion, the amount blessed by Perry to help meet a part of the shortfall due to a deficit this fiscal year.

They also made about $700 million worth of cuts to close the current fiscal year's budget gap.

To help ease the rest of the shortfall through the next two years, they used what Democrats called "funny money," including leaving up to $4.8 billion in projected Medicaid costs unfunded. Lawmakers are hoping for a federal waiver that would allow another $700 million in Medicaid savings.

The accounting maneuver of pushing back a state school payment would provide about $2 billion.

Budget staff said other revenue raisers, such as allowing unclaimed property to revert more quickly to the state, will yield more than $1 billion. Lawmakers also are assuming that school property values will rise, freeing another $800 million.

The budget would ease some of the deepest cuts originally proposed by the House, which passed a bare-bones budget that would have shorted school districts about $8 billion compared with what they could expect under current formulas and made Medicaid reimbursement rate cuts to nursing homes that threatened closure of many facilities.

Rep. Sylvester Turner, D-Houston, said, "This budget is shaky at its best. And for all of our conservative friends: No taxes, true. No rainy day fund, true. But the deferrals, deficit spending ... and funding that's questionable, all exist."

Sen. Mario Gallegos, D-Houston, added, "My school districts right now are gearing up for tax hikes to cover these cuts."

Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7585876.html#ixzz1Qsb1TC4q

Go ahead and laugh. In the end, Tex-Ass is still hurting...and your kids will take the brunt of the cuts...unless your school district manages to raise taxes to help fund their operations.
California is also cutting school funding...and hurting OUR kids.
Neither state is doing very well...but you go ahead and laugh...but laugh at yourself as well.
 

highland145

Lifer
Oct 12, 2009
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ah, ok.

are you the state with the indian chick for governor?


we're familiar with do-nothing governors over here. that's the kind of governor we like. when they do things it tends to be along the lines of selling the highways to the spanish and causing shortages of hair care products. can't have that.
our dumb ass tea party/pro job/palin supported/Hindu/"hands off approach" governor is using up good air.
That would be a yes.

We had the Love Gov before her(Sanford).
 

Nebor

Lifer
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Go ahead and laugh. In the end, Tex-Ass is still hurting...and your kids will take the brunt of the cuts...unless your school district manages to raise taxes to help fund their operations.
California is also cutting school funding...and hurting OUR kids.
Neither state is doing very well...but you go ahead and laugh...but laugh at yourself as well.

The jokes on you, I don't have kids!
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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The jokes on you, I don't have kids!

That's probably a good thing...but the "you" in that refers to the children of Tex-Ass who will get a sub-standard education...even more so than just because of the neocon-approved textbooks with their revisionist history.
 

AlienCraft

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Nov 23, 2002
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Fucking whaaa...Amazon is going to have to realize that they can't continue to be exempt from collecting state sales taxes forever.

If they keep dumping their "affiliates" in states that want to collect sales taxes from internet sales, pretty soon, they're only going to have "affiliates" in 3 or 4 states...
My last order from Amazon was shipped from a CALIFORNIA based company. There was no sales tax paid on that order placed, filled and shipped all within California.
I also clicked through Adam Carolla's podcast affiliate link to do it.

Loopholes are institutionalized corruption. This one needs to be filled.
 

AlienCraft

Lifer
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I have no problem with sales tax being applied to the state the item is shipped to, that is entirely their pejorative. However, double dipping to try and steal money (yes, businesses are already taxed on that sale through income tax) is horse manure.
Prerogative I think you mean, maybe?
Although some people think the word TAX is a pejorative.
 

SP33Demon

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Let's see...the 5 states that don't have state sales taxes are: (and their rank in total tax burden on its citizens)




California...#9 on the list.

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/eco_tot_tax_bur-total-tax-burden-per-capita

Well, your link proves that all of the states are in the clear except Delaware. Alaska, it'd be shocking if any locality would pass a Nexus tax.

RE: Delaware's gross receipts tax that can be as high as 2%, it's most likely on the lower side compared to other states if a plethora of corporations are incorporating there. Regardless, companies know that Delaware is not going to pass anti-business laws (such as the Amazon affiliate tax) in our lifetime so they gladly pay their corporate income tax there.
 

Orsorum

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Was it north carolina or south carolina that went through this same think about a year ago.

The states want more money to support their welfare / illegal immigrants. But it would cost amazon more money collecting the taxes, then what their making in profits.

Also, think it the auditing nightmare for amazon. If some state like california was able to audit amazon to make sure the taxes are being collected.

Ding ding ding ding! THIS is the issue. California has a labrynthian sales tax regime. Properly collecting and remitting is an administrative nightmare, and one that I would not wish on anyone.

What this issue is REALLY about is whether Amazon should be forced to act as an agent of the California state government and held liable as such.
 
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