Amazon have treated me appallingly

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Elixer

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Well, now, I am officially appalled at Claire for not doing another response.

This thread had such high hopes, almost got the popcorn out, but now, thanks to Claire, it will never be.

Thanks Claire.
 

Mike64

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I'm guessing self-awareness isn't your strong suit. j/k
As previously noted, my whopping 53 reviews have been posted over a period of 17 years. If you think an average of roughly 3 per year is considering myself obligated to review each of the couple hundred items I've bought there over the years, 4th grade arithmetic apparently isn't your strong suit.
 
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Perknose

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My whopping 53 reviews have been posted over a period of 17 years. If you think an average of roughly 3 per year is considering myself obligated to review each of the dozens of items I've bought annually in that time, 4th grade arithmetic apparently isn't your strong suit.
Your review of my post has resulted in the termination of your account, because reasons!
 

mindless1

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Interestingly, something changed. In recent (weeks or months? I hadn't tried to post due to my ban) my Amazon account has regained some posting ability. I wasn't notified of any change.
 

bradly1101

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I disagree. 17 years after creating an Amazon account, I've reviewed only a handful of my purchases from them (in all that time, I've posted a whopping 53, according to my profile), and I'm certainly not one of the far-too-many people who believe themselves obligated to post reviews (or answer product questions with "sorry, I don't know, I gave the XYZ to my son in another state") just because Amazon or the seller sends me email asking me to. But I do think thoughtful, detail-oriented user reviews are often more helpful than many "professional" reviews, and Amazon certainly encourages and even solicits them, and if I do bother to write one that doesn't in fact facially violate their loosey-goosey TOS, I think it should stand or that I should at least be told in something other than totally vague terms what's wrong with it...

That being said...


I have to agree that several things sound really fishy here. (And if Amazon actually "bans" people they think are shills, I'm actually glad to hear it - even if they do it unfairly from time to time - since the general impression I've gotten is that except when they're publicly exposed for it, they all but tacitly encourage it, to boost their own profits... Yes, I'm afraid I am that cynical.) ETA: Also, fwiw, "appalling" is an awfully strong word. I find it "appalling" that 50% of the US electorate voted for Donald Trump for POTUS. Amazon hiding one's reviews, on the other hand, barely registers as "annoying"...

I once had some of my reviews "hidden" by Amazon. But they were for books I had not bought on Amazon (or anywhere, thankfully, I'd borrowed them from my library) and they were anything but positive, bordering on what I suppose a hypersensitive type might've considered "personal" attacks on the authors/copyright holders, and I hadn't written all that many other reviews in general at that point. Otoh, they certainly didn't hide all my reviews, nor lock down or do anything else screwy to my account in general. I did complain, or rather asked rather pointedly for an explanation, but of course I didn't get get one (nor for matter did I actually expect to.) For a while I totally boycotted Amazon reviews, not posting any at all and myself "hiding" all of the ones Amazon had let stand. But eventually I got bored with that and started reviewing stuff again and, for whatever the reasons, the ones Amazon had hidden were unhidden at some point. (I assume, but really don't know, during some sort of later random "auditing" at which point I'd posted quite a few more reviews (varyingly positive and critical) of products I had in fact bought from, or at least on, Amazon.

If anyone is wondering, the reviews in question were slams - actually, merciless obliterations would be a better description - of a couple of the posthumous Dune-prequel so-called-literary excrescences, including comments along the lines of wondering just how desperate for money Frank Herbert's heirs must've been to have abetted the books' publication, even ignoring their participation in their authorship despite clearly not having inherited even a microscopic fraction of Frank's talent. (Although I enjoyed the Dune books, once through was enough and I wasn't what you'd call a "fan" of even Frank himself. But his books were deathless masterworks by comparison to any of the far-too numerous "prequels" that were published after his death. And since the said heir(s) had made themselves "public figures" at least as author(s) and copyright holder(s) of the books, I thought my comments weren't unfairly personal.) At some point I edited them to remove the worst of the "personal" aspects, though maybe even adding a little more content-oriented condemnation. Dunno if that was the tipping point or my having bulked up my overall review count.
Great read, thanks! I feel the same way about the supposed 4th book in the Millennium Series (used to be called Trilogy). I read Mr. Larsson's great Trilogy twice. He died after writing it. The ending of The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Nest was perfect, and nothing in the book pointed to more. So I never read the "4th" and I'm glad I didn't, it wasn't reviewed well.
 

cbrunny

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probably a late entry to the thread of the year contest. sounds like just a bunch of hot air though.
 

Zanovar

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I will not be renewing prime again.Fuck em,waste of money.Next day delivery?not likely,lately.
 

Mike64

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I was auto renewed yesterday. Not that I really cared but I would have liked a heads up. Check your settings.
That's one of several things I really hate about Amazon. You have to, you, know "opt-in" to a notice that they're going to charge you another $99. Cuz, like, don't most people not want to know niggly little details like that?<sigh>... (And even then, you get like 3 choices of when you want the notice, no further than 4 days ahead. As if Jeff Bezos doesn't already have enough money as it is...)

BUT NB, I'm pretty sure that if you haven't used the "free"/rush shipping "benefit", you cancel if you want to, at least for a while... After being auto-sniped last year a week or so ahead of when I expected it to renew (and so ordering something during that week), I made a point of making sure the notification was turned on, AND the date was entered on the calendar of every electronic device I own. My current plan is to cancel until I want to use it again, which probably won't be for a month or so anyway, and so "extend" my sub by at least a little. Which reminds me though, I should check to see if there's anything Prime-eligible lurking in my shopping cart that I should order now before I take my Prime-vacation...
 
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highland145

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That's one of several things I really hate about Amazon. You have to, you, know "opt-in" to a notice that they're going to charge you another $99. Cuz, like, don't most people not want to know niggly little details like that?<sigh>... (And even then, you get like 3 choices of when you want the notice, no further than 4 days ahead. As if Jeff Bezos doesn't already have enough money as it is...)
And they charged me sales tax...wth?
 

maniacalpha1-1

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Who wants to leave reviews anyway? Upset people leaving negative reviews I can understand, but wanting to leave positive reviews, who's got time for that? Though personally I wouldn't leave negative reviews either, I'd start a reddit post or something.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Who wants to leave reviews anyway? Upset people leaving negative reviews I can understand, but wanting to leave positive reviews, who's got time for that? Though personally I wouldn't leave negative reviews either, I'd start a reddit post or something.

When deciding whether or not to buy an item I want to see honest reviews, so I leave honest reviews. It's the only way the system works, if everyone was too busy every decision would be nothing more than a coin flip.

Of course, whether the reviews on Amazon are or are not honest is a completely different kettle of fish.
 
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Mike64

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And they charged me sales tax...wth?
You can't blame Amazon for that, that's up to your state and/or municipality. Here in NY/NYC, we have to pay sales tax on shipping anyway, so at least that kind of balances out, I suppose...
 

highland145

Lifer
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You can't blame Amazon for that, that's up to your state and/or municipality. Here in NY/NYC, we have to pay sales tax on shipping anyway, so at least that kind of balances out, I suppose...
Yeah, it was a deal worked out when A put the distribution center in Columbia. No sales tax collection for 5 years but that time is expired.
 
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