Amazon Prime price increase

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Carson Dyle

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Really hate when I can't get my shit the next day (two at most.) I just love buying stuff. Fill my whole damned house with stuff. Piles of it. And when I want it, I gotta have it now.

That's beyond sad. But if it makes you happy...
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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Really hate when I can't get my shit the next day (two at most.) I just love buying stuff. Fill my whole damned house with stuff. Piles of it. And when I want it, I gotta have it now.

That's beyond sad. But if it makes you happy...



It's mostly stuff for work. I find random tools I want to try out or a new scope or new solder or....yea. The only other thing I really order is shooting supplies but that's not much.

I order often from amazon but if you subtract work stuff, it's all pretty cheap.
 

Kaido

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Feb 14, 2004
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I hate this. Why not make it ship free with any other prime item? The box is already coming.

Not only that, but I've encountered some of the dumbest packaging from Amazon...jumbo boxes for a little thing part, for example. Not always, but enough that I've noticed it haha. I just ordered a few things the other day and the box was over three times larger than the times, so they just threw in a bunch of those big air bubble links to hold it all in place
 
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Not only that, but I've encountered some of the dumbest packaging from Amazon...jumbo boxes for a little thing part, for example. Not always, but enough that I've noticed it haha. I just ordered a few things the other day and the box was over three times larger than the times, so they just threw in a bunch of those big air bubble links to hold it all in place

I got a package from Provantage that was like that.

It was about a 20x15x12 box. opened it up, it's full of bubble wrap and a shoebox sized box. Open that, take out the fill and there's a cardboard box about the size of a book.

Open THAT, and out comes an anti-static bag containing two taped together pieces of plastic "egg carton" for OEM CPUs which, when untaped, revealed what I actually bought - an i5-4670T.

Total mindscrew.
 

SlitheryDee

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Feb 2, 2005
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Really hate when I can't get my shit the next day (two at most.) I just love buying stuff. Fill my whole damned house with stuff. Piles of it. And when I want it, I gotta have it now.

That's beyond sad. But if it makes you happy...


The only time I ever feel anything is when I click "buy it now with 1-click".
 
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MWink

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I'll be cancelling my Prime membership when it comes due this year and just sign up for the free month sometime in November during the holiday sales rush and cancel within 30 days as I did prior to joining full-time a few years ago.

I don't think they'll let you do that. I don't know the specifics of their policy but it's something like you can't get the 30 day free trial if you've had Prime anytime in the last year. The worst part is they won't tell you before you sign up, they'll just bill you right away.
 

mnewsham

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Oct 2, 2010
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They are paying exactly the same to the carrier, you are only paying for them to not sit on your order for 3-5 days before shipping it out their door. Even worst, Amazon's logistics have gotten so bad that it is not uncommon to get 3 different shipments for 3 items in the same order. And you wonder why they feel they have to increase their Prime prices!

I seriously think you're just stupid...
 

chizow

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Jun 26, 2001
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When you place a Prime order, they'll ship it from different warehouses if necessary, each by a method ensured to give 2 day delivery. With a non-Prime order, they appear to do everything possible to minimize the number of boxes (and hence their shipping cost). My guess is that in the latter case they ship pieces of orders from warehouse to warehouse via freight, then consolidate and ship the order from the nearest warehouse. It's not hard to see why that would take several extra days. With simpler orders, say a single item, I think you'll see a difference of at most a day or two, due only to the lower priority given to pulling a non-Prime order.
But they don't do it this way, even for non-Prime orders, they will ship it from multiple warehouses and you will get multiple packages, and they still arrive 2-3 days from when it actually shipped from THEIR warehouses depending where those warehouses are located. It simply costs more for them to 1) differentiate shipping methods and 2) handle a package 2x (once to ship it out a warehouse and another to ship it out their 2nd warehouse) so they just ship it all 1 way, they just don't process the orders for Standard immediately so that there's actually a reason to get Prime.

Again, all of you are Prime members, you still get the option to downgrade your shipping to Free Standard Shipping and you can test this out yourselves at any time.

I think it works like the lines at Disneyland. It takes a while to get on a ride when the VIP members keep skipping to the front. What can you do though? They paid for the right to get on rides as fast as they can walk to the front of the line. You just have to wait until the VIP members get caught up enough for the rest of the line to move. Likewise prime members paid for the right to receive items within 2 days. Amazon is bumping them up in the queue to fulfill their part of that agreement. This causes the non-prime packages to languish in the warehouse until prime shipments are sufficiently caught up to give them some attention. Amazon can't treat them both the same because that would negatively affect prime shipments that they are obligated to ship within a very short time frame. If everyone is first in line, then no one is.
And I honestly would have less of a problem with Prime and it's price increase if they just said that instead of bogus claims about gas prices and shipping costs when in reality, it doesn't cost them any difference on the shipping end. Prime is just a premium to get them off their asses to pull your order, so I won't be rewarding their lazy practices any longer. If they just said it's to compensate for their growing library of digital content (like Netflix did) that would at least make sense.

I seriously think you're just stupid...
Again genius, feel free to test for yourself, until then you're just commenting ignorantly on the matter.


I don't think they'll let you do that. I don't know the specifics of their policy but it's something like you can't get the 30 day free trial if you've had Prime anytime in the last year. The worst part is they won't tell you before you sign up, they'll just bill you right away.
I've done this every year Prime has existed until I joined full-time over a year ago. They don't bill you up front, they spam you with banners saying try for 30 days free and at the end of the 30 days they will charge you automatically. I've even gone past the 30 days and been charged a few times and they reverse the charge immediately as long as you have not used Prime again after the 30 day trial period.
 

MWink

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I've done this every year Prime has existed until I joined full-time over a year ago. They don't bill you up front, they spam you with banners saying try for 30 days free and at the end of the 30 days they will charge you automatically. I've even gone past the 30 days and been charged a few times and they reverse the charge immediately as long as you have not used Prime again after the 30 day trial period.

I'm well aware of the banners and stuff that offer a 30 day trial but it doesn't necessarily mean you actually get it. Last year I let Prime lapse and tried to sign back up with a special offer that was supposed to give the 30 day trial and some other little extra. When I signed up I was billed immediately. I contacted Amazon and they told me that I wasn't eligible for a 30 day trial because I had Prime too recently. However, they did give me a small credit. I was quite annoyed because it didn't tell me I wasn't eligible for the 30 day trial before I signed up and I also couldn't find anything about this in the T&C or fine print.

I'm just trying to warn you based on my experience. Also, you are correct that you can get a full refund as long as you haven't used any Prime benefits since you were billed.
 

Jeff7

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Jan 4, 2001
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Such a large public company, whose main business is dependent upon good logistics, is probably going to be spending a lot of resources on optimizing their systems. If you get multiple packages, it's most likely because they've deemed that to be more cost effective than sticking them all in one box, or shipping them all from one warehouse, especially if you're on Prime and they've given you a guaranteed delivery date.


That, or they spend only $50k a year on their logistics, and it's utter shit as a result. In which case, I'm sure their shareholders would not be pleased. That does not appear to be the case.
 

KK

Lifer
Jan 2, 2001
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Here's a complaint about Amazon prime. Yesterday I ordered a weight bench from amazon using 2 day shipping. The listing had one of those timers on it that said "order in the next 2 hours and X minutes to receive this item by Friday with free 2 day shipping". I'm not sure about the minutes, but it was definitely over 2 hours for Friday delivery when I ordered. So I get an email today saying the item has shipped and my guaranteed delivery date is Monday. That kinda sucks because I was looking forward to using the bench this weekend. I definitely would have gotten next day shipping if I knew this was going to happen. Is this something I should call them and bitch about?

Edit: Ok so I talked to someone in customer service and they gave me $10 off my next purchase. That's not so bad then.

Everytime they miss a guaranteed delivery date you can get them to add a month to your prime. of course, 10 dollars is a better deal.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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If it's from weather delays you're SOL as amazon can't really do anything about that.

They were both "external factors". I didn't really care since the UPS guy is really cool. I figured he had a long day and wanted to go home. I was ok with that.
 

KK

Lifer
Jan 2, 2001
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If it's from weather delays you're SOL as amazon can't really do anything about that.

February we had that little snow storm shut everything down. My order was placed on sunday the 9th, with a delivery date of wednesday. Well tuesday night I get notification the it had just shipped. I sent them a message and they gave me a extra month. Wednesday and thursday is when the storm hit atlanta, and the whole area stopped dead in it tracks. I ended up getting it on friday, which is really when i needed it by. I'm sure if i had waited till wednesday to send the message they may have shut me down.
 

spacejamz

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Mar 31, 2003
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So how much gas will you use driving to pick up items over the course of a year? :whiste:

Plus the time (assuming your time is valuable to you) to get into your car, drive there and park, select the item, stand line to pay and then drive home for every purchase...
 
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