Ambulances start charging extra for obese patients

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PhoKingGuy

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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: PhoKingGuy
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
What should the weight limit be? 200 pounds? 250 pounds? 300 pounds?

I think that we need a poll.

I think the limit before you start getting charged more is when it actually costs more to move you.

Of course, that would make sense. Most people here on ATOT don't actually care about the costs, they just want to punish fatties. So a typical ATOTer will just say "[myweight + 50 lbs]."

Its when you dont fit on a normal regulation stretcher, or weight in excess of 500 lbs I think. Most often the person was like 350-400 but couldn't fit on a normal stretcher

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If it costs more to move you, then I guess it's fair you should pay more. Especially if they have to go get new equipment just to do it.

I'm just saying that a lot of people here would rather impose fines on people who weigh more than they do just because they don't like them, not necessarily because of increased costs.

Its perfectly rational for more costs. Protocol for this type of patient involved twice the manpower and two rigs whereas normally its half that required. Add in the specialty travel time from base to the residence to hospital back to base and it starts to add up. In socal its still sprinter/E-van heavy but i've heard of some other companies in areas with higher obesity levels only ordering the freightliner rigs now.

The pediatric rigs have a 32' LCD with a PS3 and Wii inside though, those are the best ones to take out on shift, it made the time pass a lot faster
 

xanis

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Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
"Obesity Action Coalition, a group that advocates for the obese."

They should be advocating slimmer waistlines, not coddling the obese.

Seriously. That shit pisses me off so much.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
What should the weight limit be? 200 pounds? 250 pounds? 300 pounds?

I think that we need a poll.

I think the limit before you start getting charged more is when it actually costs more to move you.

Of course, that would make sense. Most people here on ATOT don't actually care about the costs, they just want to punish anyone who weighs more than 50 lbs more than they do.

I think anyone who weighs twice their ideal body weight based on height would be morbidly obese. Then again, some of those small fries, twice their ideal weight might still only be 240-260lbs. That's nothing pleasing to look at for someone who should weigh 130lbs, but not anything people would struggle to lift.

Get over 350lbs, and there should start being repercussions. Unless of course you're a very tall guy.


Originally posted by: funboy6942
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: funboy6942
And how does this help the skinny people? Do they get a cut of the more us fatties have to pay. Also most "Fatties" are on welfare or other means, so who in the hell do you think is going to pay more to transport one of us fatties? Not me, YOU, by higher taxes or ss payments so I thank you, thank you very much. Love the love for us fatties

Of course, the downside to this, is still being a fatty.

Yeah but see, I can, and will be losing my weight, you however will still be an ass hole

The way I see things... (and I know you have a wide array of medical conditions) why did you not stop and think, at any point in time where you started thinking you probably weigh more than you should, that it would be a good idea to start slowing down your weight gain and begin losing some?

People are weigh 400lbs+ did not get that way overnight. It was a slow process. By the point one reaches 300lbs (say, for example, on a body frame that 180lbs is ideal), why wouldn't that individual look at themselves and say, "I need some help, I'm losing myself and I've got no control."

I see some disgusting people waddling on campus, and did in high school too, people my age... I cannot ever see myself reaching half of their size and NOT stopping to look at myself and go "alright, this has to stop..."

It's a discipline issue. And what's worse, people get this way and still expect everything to be provided to them. They have no worry about letting themselves go and reach that point because they know they'll still be provided for. It's a disgusting loop of failure.

Obesity is the classless health analogous comparison to inner city economic conditions. Individuals and generations of people getting into a vicious loop of not caring, not daring to reach for better standards, because they don't care and are comfortable enough with the knowledge that the government is there for them.

I'd LOVE for life to still be a physically demanding chore that forced people to keep up or perish. We'd be a better species, and less of a strain on resources.
 
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Totally unfair. I believe being that obese is due to an eating disorder of some sort. Do they really need to be punished more. BTW I'm 5'10" and 185lbs and exercise 4-5 times a week so don't give me the your just fat bs.
 

Gooberlx2

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For the ridiculously obese people that require special rescue equipment and teams of people to get them in and out of a specialized emergency transport? Sounds fine by me.
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
Totally unfair. I believe being that obese is due to an eating disorder of some sort. Do they really need to be punished more. BTW I'm 5'10" and 185lbs and exercise 4-5 times a week so don't give me the your just fat bs.

Then perhaps they should be working to correct their behavior/eating? Other destructive behaviors are not tolerated. If I go get drunk, stumble out of the bar, and take a piss in the street I get arrested. I can't argue that I was so drunk I didn't know any better, or that I was only drinking because of some difficult emotional issue.
 
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Don't you have private health care over there? If you don't like it call some other ambulance company with a better pricing structure.
 

ja1484

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Originally posted by: ultimatebob
What should the weight limit be? 200 pounds? 250 pounds? 300 pounds?

I think that we need a poll.


Obese has nothing to do with weight.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
What should the weight limit be? 200 pounds? 250 pounds? 300 pounds?

I think that we need a poll.


Obese has nothing to do with weight.

Yes, there is no relation.










:laugh:
 

bctbct

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If they charged by the pound, would they pray for heavy patients? I think so!
 

gorcorps

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Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
What should the weight limit be? 200 pounds? 250 pounds? 300 pounds?

I think that we need a poll.


Obese has nothing to do with weight.

You're just saying that cuz your rolly polly ass can't deal with it.
 

xanis

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Don't you have private health care over there? If you don't like it call some other ambulance company with a better pricing structure.

It doesn't really work like that... but nice try. I can just see it going down now:

"Oh noes, I'm having a heart attack!"

"Quick, someone dial 911!"

"Make sure it's BudgetCare... the city fire department's ambulance is too damn expensive!"
 

zerocool84

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Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
Totally unfair. I believe being that obese is due to an eating disorder of some sort. Do they really need to be punished more. BTW I'm 5'10" and 185lbs and exercise 4-5 times a week so don't give me the your just fat bs.

Yea their disorder is not being able to stop stuffing their mouth. People with real diseases will get it treated accordingly but we all know that 99% of people who are fat are fat by choice.
 

nageov3t

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so, if someone's in the middle of a heart attack, they what? weigh them before agreeing to take them to the hospital?
 

Newfie

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
What should the weight limit be? 200 pounds? 250 pounds? 300 pounds?

I think that we need a poll.


Obese has nothing to do with weight.

Nothing?

Nothing?

Obesity has nothing to do with weight?

:laugh:
 
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