AMD seem to be moving really fast on this. Which to me means they have a killer product. Its now practically a given that anything facing delays from AMD will be a flop and anything coming out fast will be a hit.
I know right? How absurd of me to think that financial market manipulation has happened before. Don't know what I was thinking.
Launching high-performance desktop GPUs in december, could it be??
Simple answer NO. There is a reason why Nvidia is refreshing the 5xx series (gtx560ti 448 core gtx575, gtx585) and thats because the 28nm process is screwed up.
If Nvidia can get these products out the door before Christmas, it will make up for the late release of the gtx6xx series in January, Feb.March, and they will not lose much ground. Graphics cards sell the least in the beggining of the year, usually.
I know right? How absurd of me to think that financial market manipulation has happened before. Don't know what I was thinking.
I need a new rig badly.
AMD seem to be moving really fast on this.
Which to me means they have a killer product.
I hope you're not serious. Lying in marketing messaging is annoying yes, but lying in financials is a crime and a pretty serious one. One that will end in lawsuits from stockholders. If you're going to slander them like that, I hope you have proof.
Cautionary Statement
This release contains forward-looking statements concerning AMD, its fourth quarter 2011 revenue, demand for its products, supply of products from GLOBALFOUNDRIES, growth opportunities in low power, emerging markets and the cloud, and the timing of future product releases, which are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements are commonly identified by words such as "would," "may," "expects," "believes," "plans," "intends," "projects," and other terms with similar meaning. Investors are cautioned that the forward-looking statements in this release are based on current beliefs, assumptions and expectations, speak only as of the date of this release and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from current expectations. Risks include the possibility that Intel Corporation's pricing, marketing and rebating programs, product bundling, standard setting, new product introductions or other activities targeting the company's business will prevent attainment of the company's current plans; the company will be unable to develop, launch and ramp new products and technologies in the volumes and mix required by the market and at mature yields on a timely basis; GLOBALFOUNDRIES will be unable to manufacture the company’s products on a timely basis in sufficient quantities and using competitive technologies; the company will be unable to obtain sufficient manufacturing capacity or components to meet demand for its products or will under-utilize its commitment with respect to GLOBALFOUNDRIES' microprocessor manufacturing facilities; the company will be unable to transition its products to advanced manufacturing process technologies in a timely and effective way; global business and economic conditions will not continue to improve or will worsen resulting in lower than currently expected demand
Where do you see anything amounting to financial manipulation on the part of AMD/ATI? Where have you seen anything in the past regarding it?
There is a difference between financial divisions and marketing. One is dishonest and misleading as a rule, the other tries to do the same and it is fraud.
You put it out there, why not back up your assertion? Show when AMD has engaged in fraud.
um...better hold up on that statement. Rushing a product out to market could indicate they don't feel it's going to eclipse the competition and they want to get any sales they can before the Nvidia products release. Just saying...you can interpret it how you want but I'd error on the side of caution. I need some reviews and hard facts of real world performance.
I hope you're not serious. Lying in marketing messaging is annoying yes, but lying in financials is a crime and a pretty serious one. One that will end in lawsuits from stockholders. If you're going to slander them like that, I hope you have proof.
Simple answer NO. There is a reason why Nvidia is refreshing the 5xx series (gtx560ti 448 core gtx575, gtx585) and thats because the 28nm process is screwed up.
If Nvidia can get these products out the door before Christmas, it will make up for the late release of the gtx6xx series in January, Feb.March, and they will not lose much ground. Graphics cards sell the least in the beggining of the year, usually.
Umm, I put "what" out there? All I'm saying is watch your arse. If you can't appreciate someone telling you to watch your arse, then I don't know what to tell you. I urge "caution" nothing more, specifically if you own AMD stock. Like I said in a related thread not long ago, we don't know if this new CEO is an "EXIT" CEO yet. Be careful.
Oh, btw. Hector Ruiz. 'sal im sayin.
That's all covered in the cautionary statement. You will see GF mentioned a bunch of times in just this partial copy and paste of the paragraph.
Technically BD for Server shipped for revenue when we saw the picture of the handoff of a box of BD to Cray representatives, yet we don't see any server data, since then.
That's all covered in the cautionary statement. You will see GF mentioned a bunch of times in just this partial copy and paste of the paragraph.
Technically BD for Server shipped for revenue when we saw the picture of the handoff of a box of BD to Cray representatives, yet we don't see any server data, since then.
I'd agree with you, but nobody seems to "want" to be told, or even hear "be cautious" as a recommendation. They are getting all uppity thinking I am accusing AMD of something. Hey, whatever right? :'(
Well, I think it's just that the GTX 580 has been out for what over a year? It's been the fastest single GPU card since release. People want more competition in the market (or just new cards) so prices can drop some. Not everyone wants SLI/CFX and not everyone is happy with a mid range card.
I've been holding off upgrading this rig and I'm about ready to just get a GTX 580 and be done with it. Hard to wait any longer.
Do you really think the 7870 will be that fast? I was thinking between a 6950 and 6970, similar to how the 6870 wound up between the 5850 and 5870.
At any rate, I'm looking forward to the next cards from both vendors, as I want to upgrade from my 6870 and at this time, unless I find a crazy deal on a 6870 somewhere, I prefer to avoid Crossfire.
I'd agree with you, but nobody seems to "want" to be told, or even hear "be cautious" as a recommendation. They are getting all uppity thinking I am accusing AMD of something. Hey, whatever right? :'(
You just HAD to bring up hector Ruin. Excuse me while I go throw up.
My first gen i7 and 5870 has been holding up very well, especially since Im not going over 1900x1200 for now. Its been exactly two years since Ive built it now.
I think unless I get eyefinity I wont have any reason to upgrade for at least another year or two.