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MrTeal

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So, looking at the card that Lisa Su held up, it seemed like the 470 is about Pitcairn sized indicating that it's a cutdown P10. Not unexpected, but I think it's looking more and more like the 2304 SP RX480 is the full part.
 

Bacon1

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Zen - showed it off running Doom in their lab, no real info about it though
 

Stuka87

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Zen - showed it off running Doom in their lab, no real info about it though

It does not ship until next year. They have already stated that detailed info wont be available until fall.

But they have stated a huge increase in IPC, and it uses hyper threading like Intel. No more CPU modules like bulldozer.
 

tential

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I think AMD should have shown off their new Moba gpus doing some streaming/gaming at the same time and show off some 144hz gaming or something.
 

crisium

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So, looking at the card that Lisa Su held up, it seemed like the 470 is about Pitcairn sized indicating that it's a cutdown P10. Not unexpected, but I think it's looking more and more like the 2304 SP RX480 is the full part.

Yup. Been calling it all along. The "myth" of the 2560SP part that has never shown up in any leak, but both 2304 and 2048 have. They want to believe.
 

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So they are releasing the 460, 470 and 480.

So basically,
The 460 4gb should perform about 370 levels using less power. $129?
The 470 4gb should perform about 380x levels using less power. $149?
The 480 8gb should perform about 390x levels using less power. $239?

And these cards will compete with the 1060 and 1050 correct?

Is this what I'm seeing?
 
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Mopetar

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Yup. Been calling it all along. The "myth" of the 2560SP part that has never shown up in any leak, but both 2304 and 2048 have. They want to believe.

So what is AMD selling as their $300 part then? Without more shaders, the only value is a significantly better clocking chip (would need to be at least 20%) than the 480 or faster memory from using GDDR5X.

I still think that there is a 2560 SP die, but there aren't enough of them for AMD to release a card so we won't see it until August.
 

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I still think that there is a 2560 SP die, but there aren't enough of them for AMD to release a card so we won't see it until August.

mabe its there 285 type card which took almost a year to make it to market thanks to Apple.
 

crisium

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So what is AMD selling as their $300 part then? Without more shaders, the only value is a significantly better clocking chip (would need to be at least 20%) than the 480 or faster memory from using GDDR5X.

I still think that there is a 2560 SP die, but there aren't enough of them for AMD to release a card so we won't see it until August.

Or just aftermarket AIB factory OC 8GB cards around $250-$290+.
 

MrTeal

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So what is AMD selling as their $300 part then? Without more shaders, the only value is a significantly better clocking chip (would need to be at least 20%) than the 480 or faster memory from using GDDR5X.

I still think that there is a 2560 SP die, but there aren't enough of them for AMD to release a card so we won't see it until August.

Better cooler, better PCB, higher stock clocks. The 290X launched at $550, while the 290X Lightning launched at $700. Really high end version of 8GB 480's could easily be $300.
 

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I'm a little disappointed....

290x , 390x and now the 480? all basically the same performance.
So the only upgrade path is for people with 370/380 cards or Fiji for the next 8 months?
WHat is AMD smoking?
 

monstercameron

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I'm a little disappointed....

290x , 390x and now the 480? all basically the same performance.
So the only upgrade path is for people with 370/380 cards or Fiji for the next 8 months?
WHat is AMD smoking?
You do know that you dont have to upgrade every year right?
 

LTC8K6

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390X can be had at Newegg for about $350. A couple models are $340 with rebates.
 

DisarmedDespot

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I'm a little disappointed....

290x , 390x and now the 480? all basically the same performance.
So the only upgrade path is for people with 370/380 cards or Fiji for the next 8 months?
WHat is AMD smoking?


They've been pretty much constantly saying RX 480 is targeted at the sub-$300 crowd, which makes up ~85% of the market. AMD 1) wants marketshare 2) wants to fulfill their chip obligations to GloFo quickly 3) wants to put the 390/390X with their expensive power delivery components out to pasture and 4) is basically releasing into a market that NVidia hasn't touched yet with Pascal. Vega's the higher-end part.
 

crisium

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Hawaii and Fiji users gotta wait or jump ship to $400+ Nvidia. Even 380X users could upgrade. Sort of silly since they could have had Hawaii already, but some people maybe didn't want the higher power consumption I guess.

Not having high end for BF1 is a mistake, no way around it. The Battlefields have driven my upgrades for years and I'm quite sure this is true for many other people.
 

Snarf Snarf

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Are people still surprised that Polaris isn't going to be an upgrade for high end card owners? If you own a Hawaii chip, hang on to it unless you want the lower power consumption or updated display options. Vega and big Pascal will be coming at the end of the year or early next year and will surely level out the price/$ curve.

AMD has been like a broken record stating this launch is a mainstream launch, maybe with some major OC gains the 480 will get within ~15% of a stock 1070 if the card isn't power limited.
 
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