AMD: 10 nanometer transistor, WOW!!!

bauerbrazil

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AMD Announces Technology to Enable Ten-Fold Performance Leap in Future Transistors

World's smallest version of innovative design can foster better products and lower manufacturing costs

Sunnyvale, CA -- September 10, 2002 --SUNNYVALE, CA?September 10, 2002?AMD (NYSE: AMD) today announced it has fabricated the smallest double-gate transistors reported to date using industry standard technology. These transistors, measuring ten nanometers, or ten billionths of a meter in length (gate), are six times smaller than the smallest transistors currently in production. AMD's research breakthrough could foster the placement of a billion transistors on the same size chip that currently holds 100 million transistors, enabling a vastly richer computing experience.

Transistors are the miniscule on/off switches that make up the integrated circuits in today's microprocessors. A double-gate transistor structure effectively doubles the electrical current that can be sent through a given transistor. The Fin Field Effect Transistor (FinFET) design relies upon a thin vertical silicon "fin" to help control leakage of current through the transistor when it is in the "off" stage. This design combination allows for the creation of new chips with enhanced performance and ever-shrinking geometries.

"Transistor development is essential to the creation of higher-performing products for our customers," said Craig Sander, AMD's vice president of Technology Development. "The entire semiconductor industry is working to meet the increasing challenges of developing new transistor designs that are smaller and higher-performing and yet can be manufactured with minimal deviation from today?s industry standard manufacturing processes. The FinFET transistor indicates we can continue to deliver very high performance products while preserving the basic technology infrastructure our industry relies upon."

AMD's laboratory demonstration of ten nanometer Complementary Metal Oxide Semiconductor Fin Field Effect Transistor (CMOS FinFET) is the outcome of collaborative research between AMD and the University of California, Berkeley with support from the Semiconductor Research Corporation (SRC). The devices were fabricated in AMD?s Submicron Development Center.

"The superior leakage control characteristics make FinFET transistors an attractive candidate for future nano-scale CMOS generations, which are expected to be in manufacturing within the next decade," said Dr. Tsu-Jae King, Associate Professor of Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences at U.C. Berkeley. ?The FinFET device characteristics indicate strong potential for extending the scalability of CMOS technology.?

AMD and the University of California will present the paper, titled "FinFET Scaling to 10 nm Gate Length" at the International Electron Devices Meeting (IEDM) held in San Francisco, December 9-11, 2002.

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Now the questions is, when???
 

BD231

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When? I wouldn't hold your breath, technology like that is a big step.
 

Chang10is

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What the... ok, even if we're not going to find a 10 nm transitor in anything that we actually use on an everyday basis, just the fact that AMD is able to manufacture transistors this small is really amazing. For comparison's purpose, 10 nm is about 1000-3000 times smaller than the thickness of a sheet of paper or the diameter or a typical cell in your body. Crazy!
 

grant2

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What are today's current transistors at? 90-150 nm ?

this is nice & all, but why get excited until there's actual product?

Over 10 years ago scientists succesfully changed a single molecule between binary states, but we're still not close to 500 terrabytes / square inch hard drives...
 

glugglug

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Single transistors are one thing....

If they can demonstrate a chip prototype (or even a component of one, like an ALU or something), made using these new transistors anytime in the next 3 years I'll be a LOT more impressed.
 

Macro2

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Expect Intel to announce 9.9 nm any day now. LOL. They can't stand not to be the leader. Truth is that when it comes to things like Copper, SOI and DDR...AMD is the leader and Intel is the follower.
 

MadRat

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Originally posted by: Macro2
Expect Intel to announce 9.9 nm any day now. LOL. They can't stand not to be the leader. Truth is that when it comes to things like Copper, SOI and DDR...AMD is the leader and Intel is the follower.

IBM would beg to differ.
 

rc5

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Does that mean 100-fold performance increase for a CPU made with 10 nm technology?

Wow, even Microsoft Windows 2020 should boot in 10 minutes now....
 

pm

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Truth is that when it comes to things like Copper, SOI and DDR...AMD is the leader and Intel is the follower.
And what about IBM who actually pioneered the research in the first two (copper interconnect using the dual-damascene manufacturing technique, and partially-depleted SOI)? I would say their research into these areas gives them a right to the title of "leader". And not to detract anything from AMD's accomplishment of creating the world's smallest finFET, but IBM announced a MOSFET with a gate length of 6nm a few days ago which would make them the current leader in super tiny transistors. (all of these press releases, by the way, are due to submissions to the IEDM conference in SF, CA in early Dec.
Now the questions is, when???
According to the ITRS roadmap (link), this technology (not finFET's specifically, but 10nm gate length) is expected to be implemented in volume manufacturing in the 2013 timeframe.

For anyone who's interested, here's a readable summary of the IEDM papers that were accepted for presentation at the conference in December.
 

pm

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By the way, if you are looking at the ITRS document, note that the document is separated into two parts: DRAM and logic. The first part is mostly DRAM. Also keep in mind that they are talking litho drawn gate length, the "real" gate length (AKA "effective length") will be much smaller. I believe that the AMD paper discusses the transistor's effective gate length, not the drawn gate length.
 

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smaller die size... less heat... greater speed... better OC potential... I LIKE IT!!!... around 1 billion transistors... Friggin' WOW!!!... to put it simply... I can't wait...
 

ElFenix

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the fruits of academia of 5 years ago, most likely.
 

Valinos

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OMG OMG OMGOM OMG OMG OGMGLKGMG

AMD IS GOD! THEY MAKE SUPER TINY TRANSIT0RZ THAT R L33T!!!!!!

FUK U INTEL! P4 SUX U GOT 0NZ0RED!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

pm

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the fruits of academia of 5 years ago, most likely.
4 years ago, actually. FinFET's are a development of UC Berkeley. ,Chenming Hu, the main researcher who worked on it at Cal, is now CTO of TSMC in Taiwan. Here's a link to an article about one of the academic papers.

Some day I would like someone to explain to me a post like Valinos'. I realize that it's not serious post, but I don't understand the point of it anyway. Is it some attempt to make fun of the people who post like that? But no one really posts like that on AT. So why?
 

Valinos

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I was just making fun of the inevitable.

There's always someone who is a uber-zealot for some company and acts like whatever they do is some sort of ground breaking achievement.

I like AMD as much as the next guy, but the enthusiasm is uncalled for. Big deal, they made one prototype 10nm part and decided to make a press release about it. And we won't be seeing the part for ten years...wow...what an achievement guys...that's so amazing. Considering we're at 90nm already, I actually figured we'd see 10nm a lot sooner than that. So to sum up my views, I'm not blown away. I don't even care. It is possibly the most useless piece of information I've read for the day. No offense to the poster

AMD isn't the only one that does this stuff, most tech companies do, including Intel. I just think its a weak tactic to try and garner some processor sales or stock investments. I mean seriously, who doesn't think Intel is right behind AMD...and in 10 years?


The original post was just an exaggerated stab at the fanboys. Don't get your panties in a wad, pm.
 

pm

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Valinos, thanks for the explanation. I didn't mean to target you specifically. I could pull at least a dozen similar examples. I just didn't get the joke. Now I think I understand.
Don't get your panties in a wad, pm.
I will try not to. Thanks for your concern.
 

Valinos

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Originally posted by: pm
Valinos, thanks for the explanation. I didn't mean to target you specifically. I could pull at least a dozen similar examples. I just didn't get the joke. Now I think I understand.
Don't get your panties in a wad, pm.
I will try not to. Thanks for your concern.

NP
 

microAmp

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Originally posted by: MadRat
Originally posted by: Macro2
Expect Intel to announce 9.9 nm any day now. LOL. They can't stand not to be the leader. Truth is that when it comes to things like Copper, SOI and DDR...AMD is the leader and Intel is the follower.

IBM would beg to differ.

So would Motorola, on the Copper technology. Motorola MOS 13 has been using copper for a good while now and helped AMD on the copper.

 
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