NaroonGTX
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And speaking of excavator, I suggest to cross this bridge when we get there. When Bulldozer flopped Piledriver was supposed to fix everything, now Kaveri is coming, and guess what, it's not the savior chip that some people were expecting. The next savior is now....excavator. It seems that AMD has become the company of the future, and it will always be if they can avoid chapter 11 or 7.
It's posts like this that make this place such a joke. You're inserting your own bias into the equation for no reason. Piledriver wasn't supposed to "fix everything", it did everything AMD said it would -- and that was basically fixing up bdver1 from "wtf is this" to "okay, that's more like it."
Kaveri isn't the savior chip that "some people" thought it would be? I don't even see what point you're getting at here. AMD is focusing on APU's because they sell many more of them than they do FX chips. Why should they focus on market segments that are diminishing, and not even bringing them in the most revenue? It was said by AMD that 70% of their shipments were APU's and the other 30% was the FX chips.
Just because people start speculating about Excavator doesn't mean it's meant to be a "savior" or whatever nonsense people will come up with.
And this leads me to the opinion that AMD hasn't mastered 28nm (at least at GFL). If you can think of another option which explains both delays and the performance downgrade, then please let me know.
The whole performance downgrade thing, I assume this is in reference to Kaveri's original projected goal of being a little over 1 TFLops (IIRC the number was 1050 or so). I'd like to say that there's no guarantee that the A10-7850k is actually the flagship part or anything. It's possible that they needed to drop the clocks to reach their 95W TDP target, or something, but we'll find out at CES 2014 I suppose.
Also I'd like to note something I noticed about the roadmap. It seems to start at 2H 2013 and apparently ends at 1H 2014. Richland obviously wasn't released for "all of 2013". It didn't release until the beginning of 2H 2013 basically. And those Jaguar parts for the servers aren't even out yet.
This isn't to say that there might be something on AM3+ in 2H 2014, because I doubt it. And I'm pretty sure I recall AMD saying Warsaw would be there for all of 2014 anyway.