AMD 2200+...chirpped core but still work...side effect ?

[Wind]

Got a XP 2200+ core chirpped but it still able to boot up. So any known side effect ?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Hey Wind How it's going? Anyways I had a 1ghz Morgan with fully 50% of the top edge of the core chipped off and it was rock solid so like myself you may have gotten lucky, However people with chipped cores have reported BSOD's, reboots, lock ups, and other general flakeyness, and of course some just die. As long as your system was running smoothly before, if it starts gettin' flakey you'll know where to start

 

[clicknext]

Can someone post a pic of a chipped core? I want to know what it looks like just in case I do it and then think that nothing happened...

 

[Wind]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Hey Wind How it's going? Anyways I had a 1ghz Morgan with fully 50% of the top edge of the core chipped off and it was rock solid so like myself you may have gotten lucky, However people with chipped cores have reported BSOD's, reboots, lock ups, and other general flakeyness, and of course some just die. As long as your system was running smoothly before, if it starts gettin' flakey you'll know where to start

I'm running a "little" busy here DAPUNISHER. Just upgraded my system again. Got this chirpped core from a fren @ 60% off my local retail price !!. Actually, I bought the entire system from him @ only 40% of the new retail price.

I opened up the HSF to put some ASII...then in the middle of the cleaning...discover the chirpped core (most probably he didn't knew bout it). Guess I'm lucky so far. Haven't test for stability yet...coz his mobo is also giving me probs...will RMA to mobo tomorrow.

 

[Wind]

Originally posted by: clicknext
Can someone post a pic of a chipped core? I want to know what it looks like just in case I do it and then think that nothing happened...

It's not spectacular bout a chirpped core. Your T-bred core is rectangular w/ sharp edge...if the edge is not "sharp"...like a small dent...then the core is chirpped...as simple as tht.

 

[Atif]

Its possible (depending on the size of the chip) that it may not work when/if you try changing motherboards and/or coolers. Just returned a chipped 2200+ last week cause it was working fine on one motherboard, but switching it to another would result in a lockup within 2-3 minutes of usage (as if it were overheating)

Peace

 

[Wind]

Originally posted by: AtifofVNRoundup
Its possible (depending on the size of the chip) that it may not work when/if you try changing motherboards and/or coolers. Just returned a chipped 2200+ last week cause it was working fine on one motherboard, but switching it to another would result in a lockup within 2-3 minutes of usage (as if it were overheating)

Peace

I can't RMA the CPU coz no receipt. It runs well in my Asus A7V333...but the problem is I'll RMA this mobo tomorrow. Can I safely assumed here tht if the CPU works well w/ the curent A7V333 mobo...it will work on another same A7V333 mobo ?

 

[Atif]

Probably, yes, but be sure you're careful when installing/removing the cooler. Don't want to chip it anymore than it already has been chipped.

Peace

 

[Telsari]

Any tips on removing HSF? I am thinking of "unlocking" my Athlon...

 

[TheCorm]

I normally use a screwdriver to push the clip down and then something with a hooky bit to pull it away from the retention clip....at all times trying to ensure HFS movement is minimal.

Corm

 

[HappyNic]

hmm, I guess the worse case your chirpped CORE could do is kill your motherboard, slowly or fast is up to your CPU..
no , joke here it's possible.
but if you can run the system stablly for 24 without any sudden resets or weird stuff happening then your all good.

I have a chirp cpu too. they don't seem to like overclocking at all, not a single mhz over the spec.

 

[Wind]

Originally posted by: HappyNic
hmm, I guess the worse case your chirpped CORE could do is kill your motherboard, slowly or fast is up to your CPU..
no , joke here it's possible.
but if you can run the system stablly for 24 without any sudden resets or weird stuff happening then your all good.

I have a chirp cpu too. they don't seem to like overclocking at all, not a single mhz over the spec.

Hmm...a chirpped core CPU killing a mobo ? How ? Do enlighten me on this.

 

[Vape]

Wind, i NEEED to see a pic of that!

I also buggered my xp1800 - but not chipped - i think i cooked it, but there is no visible damage - just wont boot in my abit kt7a - but the mobo also doesnt support it, did work for a while though..........

 

[JBT]

I have a chipped core on a old 1.4 T-Bird Runs fine.

 

[Wind]

Originally posted by: Vape
Wind, i NEEED to see a pic of that!

I also buggered my xp1800 - but not chipped - i think i cooked it, but there is no visible damage - just wont boot in my abit kt7a - but the mobo also doesnt support it, did work for a while though..........

U had a more simple & direct solution...just pop in tht CPU into a mobo tht support it. The reason why it didn't boot up is probably the mobo didn't support it. U said " it work for a while"...so, now it won't work ? If yes, u probably damage the mobo.

Nope...I don't hv a pic of my chipped core...but u can imagine...a small sliced off the edge of the CPU core.

 

[TheCorm]

With a bios update, the KT7A should support that cpu, it's the KT7 that won't.

Corm

 

[Soulkeeper]

I had a 600mhz slot a athlon with a slight chip on the core
it never made a difference
but i would say, besides running at all, stability would be the first thing affected.
if the chip goes to use the part of the core that is chipped it could then crash
just hope the chip is in a worthless part heh (like the HT part on the P4's )

if it works just keep using it
if not then ohhh well

 

[HappyNic]

I don't know how to explain it, depending on the chirp area/ location, and how deep, perhap it will give your motherboard some weird up and down jumps of vott, mess up informations , too much power at time, too little power at time, slowerly killing the cpu and the motherboard with it. I'm sure it's possible. cause if you have many hard resets or freeze it'll damage something right? That's why I said the worse case is that it'll kill your motherboard.

Its' pretty much like drink and drive,, the worse case is that you kill someone along with yourself. very bad.,, or get a DUI, may reck your car, ETC, anything could happen, depending on how much you drank, and how much you could take. You might even wake up with a nice looking chick on your lap .,, or on you male friends lap., NOOOOOOOO! :Q

"VAPE" How did your CPU get cook? my friend is using a xp1700+ @ xp1900+ on his ABIT KT7E which is pretty much a KT7a, but cheaper and colored blue. it works fine with a pretty old bios. The bios my friend was using was not consider AMD XP supportive because it show mhz instead of the RATED SPEED. So I see 1460 mhz, for xp1700+ instead

 

[TheCorm]

Isn't the KT7E just a slightly enhanced KT7 rather than a cut down KT7A. As far as I remember reading, the KT133E chipset was just a KT133 with about 2 extra features....it still only had 100mhz fsb only....but if he has got it wrong then maybe that's wrong....my brothers gigabyte with KT133E chipset doesn't support 266mhz fsb.

Corm

 

[Nardman]

Hey HappyNIC, a couple of corrections to your theory about a chipped core toasting a mobo...

first, generally the only components at risk in your computer due to crashes and reboots are your hard drives, because they require a power down cycle to prevent data corruption. In my experience, newer hard drives are far less succeptable to this. The mobo isn't really at risk from locks and crashes.

second, the mobo regulates voltage to the CPU, not vice versa. there's no way a chipped proc is gonna spaz voltages, hence, there's no way it'll fry a mobo.


About the only way that I'm aware of a CPU failure causing mobo damage is if the processor is under-cooled(eg the HSF pops off during operation) and burns up hard. This isn't a spastic voltage issue though; basically the CPU melts your motherboard. Tom's hardware has a cool video example of this happening...it ain't pretty though.

 

[akahai]

I had 3 chipped Duron cpus all morgan core, all 3 of them still serve me well today.....when I said chipped, I mean it's bad, one of them got the corner off, while the other two loses one of its four edges.......

 

[Atif]

akahai, just for you my friend:

AMD Guide on Heatsink Installation



Peace

 

[Zap]

I have see a few chipped AMD cores. One Duron 800 died from being chipped. An Athlon 750 and a Duron 900 still work fine, even being as chipped as the dead Duron 800. That 800 may have deeper cracks that I can't see. These were badly chipped. I've seen many other CPUs with really minor chips, sometimes can barely notice. All are fine. YMMV.

 

[HappyNic]

Originally posted by: TheCorm
Isn't the KT7E just a slightly enhanced KT7 rather than a cut down KT7A. As far as I remember reading, the KT133E chipset was just a KT133 with about 2 extra features....it still only had 100mhz fsb only....but if he has got it wrong then maybe that's wrong....my brothers gigabyte with KT133E chipset doesn't support 266mhz fsb.

Corm

I'm not really sure,, when his ABIT kt7e was purchased it was the only KT7e motherboard on the market, well the first one at least. it has the same layout as the Kt7a (everything the same but blue) and only the bios is a little different , even with the stock bios it can set at 266 fsb no problem,, can even overclock higher too. at benchmarks its has the same score as the Kt7a- RAID which I had at the time. so prehaps that 2 extra feature change the KT133 into a KT133a? perhaps its' all in the bios and gigabyte's kt7133e board left out some options.

"Nardman" about what I was saying about the cpu killing the motherboard it's NOT a Theory so you don't really need to correct me on this,, if you read my first post then you should see , THE WORSE that can happen....., not that it will happen for sure,, but the WORSE that can happen, and damaging the motherboard is one of them, are you saying it's not ever posible in anyway to damage a motherboard by running a Chirpped CPU?

 

[Zap]

AFAIK the KT133E was a KT133A that wasn't spec'd for running 133FSB.