Absolutely nothing is stopping any chipset maker from doing this. Intel already has dual-socket quad cores(Clovertown) which is the Xeon version of the QX6700. linkOriginally posted by: Idontcare
I remember when I had dual-333A celeron setup (OC'ed to 533MHz of course) in an Abit dual-socket mobo some 7 or 8 years ago.
What prevents Intel or nVidia from releasing a desktop dual-socket platform for Intel's quad-core next year to compete with AMD's desktop dual-socket platform?
Originally posted by: Mr Vain
AMD coming back with Real Quad core CPU?s on this and AM2 platform!
2 quad cores on this platform should be good.
Non believers will eat humble pie.
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/12/01/amd_aims_to_reclaim_cpu_crown/
Originally posted by: Beachboy
Absolutely nothing is stopping any chipset maker from doing this. Intel already has dual-socket quad cores(Clovertown) which is the Xeon version of the QX6700. linkOriginally posted by: Idontcare
I remember when I had dual-333A celeron setup (OC'ed to 533MHz of course) in an Abit dual-socket mobo some 7 or 8 years ago.
What prevents Intel or nVidia from releasing a desktop dual-socket platform for Intel's quad-core next year to compete with AMD's desktop dual-socket platform?
I don't imagine it would be too hard to put together a non-server motherboard that uses unbuffered memory and SLI but it would be extreme overkill. Still, dual Intel quad cores on one board for a desktop PC would be pretty cool.
Originally posted by: coldpower27
Originally posted by: Mr Vain
AMD coming back with Real Quad core CPU?s on this and AM2 platform!
2 quad cores on this platform should be good.
Non believers will eat humble pie.
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/12/01/amd_aims_to_reclaim_cpu_crown/
That doesn't matter currently as were interested in performance I can use today, not future performance that isn't here where I can't use it yet.
Yes you can plop down 2 Quad Core processors down the road, but that is something else entirely as by that time Intel will likely have some other alternatives as well.
There is no humble pie to eat, 8 Cores on the desktop even by Mid 2007 is even a more limited niche then a single quad core is now.
"Real" Quad Cores CPU's, nice wording lol, you mean AMD's native Quad Cores, there is nothing real about it, Intel current Quad Core CPU's are real, the only definition required for having a Quad Core CPU is that all 4 Cores are on the same socket. That is all. So currently the case is Intel has shipping Quad Core processors AMD doesn't period.
AMD is using a Quad Core system right now to compete with Intel Quad Core processor, suffice it to say, the solution requires alot more energy to operate. Since you have 2 Dual Cores on 1 motherboard with each Dual Core on it's own Socket.
Currently the solution is not very enticing, it's is likely to become more enticing down the road, but for the moment we don't want it.
Originally posted by: ahock
Originally posted by: coldpower27
Originally posted by: Mr Vain
AMD coming back with Real Quad core CPU?s on this and AM2 platform!
2 quad cores on this platform should be good.
Non believers will eat humble pie.
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/12/01/amd_aims_to_reclaim_cpu_crown/
That doesn't matter currently as were interested in performance I can use today, not future performance that isn't here where I can't use it yet.
Yes you can plop down 2 Quad Core processors down the road, but that is something else entirely as by that time Intel will likely have some other alternatives as well.
There is no humble pie to eat, 8 Cores on the desktop even by Mid 2007 is even a more limited niche then a single quad core is now.
"Real" Quad Cores CPU's, nice wording lol, you mean AMD's native Quad Cores, there is nothing real about it, Intel current Quad Core CPU's are real, the only definition required for having a Quad Core CPU is that all 4 Cores are on the same socket. That is all. So currently the case is Intel has shipping Quad Core processors AMD doesn't period.
AMD is using a Quad Core system right now to compete with Intel Quad Core processor, suffice it to say, the solution requires alot more energy to operate. Since you have 2 Dual Cores on 1 motherboard with each Dual Core on it's own Socket.
Currently the solution is not very enticing, it's is likely to become more enticing down the road, but for the moment we don't want it.
You know I dont buy this AMD marketing promise which buy 4x4 now because they are upgradeable to quad core in the future. What does that mean throw away the 2 CPU I have in 6 to 7 months?
Originally posted by: ahock
Originally posted by: coldpower27
Originally posted by: Mr Vain
AMD coming back with Real Quad core CPU?s on this and AM2 platform!
2 quad cores on this platform should be good.
Non believers will eat humble pie.
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/12/01/amd_aims_to_reclaim_cpu_crown/
That doesn't matter currently as were interested in performance I can use today, not future performance that isn't here where I can't use it yet.
Yes you can plop down 2 Quad Core processors down the road, but that is something else entirely as by that time Intel will likely have some other alternatives as well.
There is no humble pie to eat, 8 Cores on the desktop even by Mid 2007 is even a more limited niche then a single quad core is now.
"Real" Quad Cores CPU's, nice wording lol, you mean AMD's native Quad Cores, there is nothing real about it, Intel current Quad Core CPU's are real, the only definition required for having a Quad Core CPU is that all 4 Cores are on the same socket. That is all. So currently the case is Intel has shipping Quad Core processors AMD doesn't period.
AMD is using a Quad Core system right now to compete with Intel Quad Core processor, suffice it to say, the solution requires alot more energy to operate. Since you have 2 Dual Cores on 1 motherboard with each Dual Core on it's own Socket.
Currently the solution is not very enticing, it's is likely to become more enticing down the road, but for the moment we don't want it.
You know I dont buy this AMD marketing promise which buy 4x4 now because they are upgradeable to quad core in the future. What does that mean throw away the 2 CPU I have in 6 to 7 months?
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Looks like the FX-74 holds its own OK by this review.
I don't suggest buying this platform right now, wait till the platform is more mature and buy it assuming you want 8 cores, when the Quad Core processors are available and more confirmed to be drop in compatible with the motherboard.
Originally posted by: Toadster
I don't suggest buying this platform right now, wait till the platform is more mature and buy it assuming you want 8 cores, when the Quad Core processors are available and more confirmed to be drop in compatible with the motherboard.
just buy a Mac Pro and drop in 2 Clovertown Xeon CPU's - you'll have 8-cores
Originally posted by: Mr Vain
Originally posted by: Toadster
I don't suggest buying this platform right now, wait till the platform is more mature and buy it assuming you want 8 cores, when the Quad Core processors are available and more confirmed to be drop in compatible with the motherboard.
just buy a Mac Pro and drop in 2 Clovertown Xeon CPU's - you'll have 8-cores
That should suck more power than AMD's new Agena CPU's as they can power down unused cores, have L3 cache and are not a Pseudo 4 Core.
From the material available it is a no brainer that the Barcelona core looks more advanced than the Intel 2 Conroe?s CPU?s glued together to make a 4 core.
Originally posted by: Toadster
I don't suggest buying this platform right now, wait till the platform is more mature and buy it assuming you want 8 cores, when the Quad Core processors are available and more confirmed to be drop in compatible with the motherboard.
just buy a Mac Pro and drop in 2 Clovertown Xeon CPU's - you'll have 8-cores
Originally posted by: coldpower27
Originally posted by: Mr Vain
Originally posted by: Toadster
I don't suggest buying this platform right now, wait till the platform is more mature and buy it assuming you want 8 cores, when the Quad Core processors are available and more confirmed to be drop in compatible with the motherboard.
just buy a Mac Pro and drop in 2 Clovertown Xeon CPU's - you'll have 8-cores
That should suck more power than AMD's new Agena CPU's as they can power down unused cores, have L3 cache and are not a Pseudo 4 Core.
From the material available it is a no brainer that the Barcelona core looks more advanced than the Intel 2 Conroe?s CPU?s glued together to make a 4 core.
Another attempt, to try to poke at Intel eh? Once again Intel's Quad Core processors are real not pseudo Quad Core's. As well Barcelona has nice paper specifications, and yes AMD is pushing how their Quad Core is a native one vs Intel's MCM approach, however the only thing that matters in the end will be the performance they will bring in comparison to Intel's offerings. AMD has more "elegant" or whatever word you would like to use form of processor to processor communication, with HyperTransport but Intel's Core Architecture with FSB technology still wins over AMD's K8 derivatives easily in performance.
It would be interesting to see how much more watts you can shave off while doing no work, but were more interested in seeing how much energy the Quad Cores will take doing work as opposed to not.
Originally posted by: Mr Vain
I run 2 Intel and one AMD rigs at the moment. If I was going to buy a dual core CPU today it would be a Conroe.
As far as 4Core CPU?s are concerned I would not buy one till the Agenas come online and I see their performance on the AM2 & 4x4 platforms versus the Intel offering. IMO the AMD 4 Core CPU?s look like a better processor so far on paper and the 4x4 platform looks to me like it?s got more of a future.
That?s not poking Intel, it may be poking rigid minds, that are beating down future CPU?s based on the (FX twin 90nm CPU?s performance and power consumption).
I admire AMD?s show of some resistance at this time against the Intel Cartel, it was a brave move from AMD and I respect them for trying.
Originally posted by: Mr Vain
Originally posted by: coldpower27
Originally posted by: Mr Vain
Originally posted by: Toadster
I don't suggest buying this platform right now, wait till the platform is more mature and buy it assuming you want 8 cores, when the Quad Core processors are available and more confirmed to be drop in compatible with the motherboard.
just buy a Mac Pro and drop in 2 Clovertown Xeon CPU's - you'll have 8-cores
That should suck more power than AMD's new Agena CPU's as they can power down unused cores, have L3 cache and are not a Pseudo 4 Core.
From the material available it is a no brainer that the Barcelona core looks more advanced than the Intel 2 Conroe?s CPU?s glued together to make a 4 core.
Another attempt, to try to poke at Intel eh? Once again Intel's Quad Core processors are real not pseudo Quad Core's. As well Barcelona has nice paper specifications, and yes AMD is pushing how their Quad Core is a native one vs Intel's MCM approach, however the only thing that matters in the end will be the performance they will bring in comparison to Intel's offerings. AMD has more "elegant" or whatever word you would like to use form of processor to processor communication, with HyperTransport but Intel's Core Architecture with FSB technology still wins over AMD's K8 derivatives easily in performance.
It would be interesting to see how much more watts you can shave off while doing no work, but were more interested in seeing how much energy the Quad Cores will take doing work as opposed to not.
I run 2 Intel and one AMD rigs at the moment. If I was going to buy a dual core CPU today it would be a Conroe.
As far as 4Core CPU?s are concerned I would not buy one till the Agenas come online and I see their performance on the AM2 & 4x4 platforms versus the Intel offering. IMO the AMD 4 Core CPU?s look like a better processor so far on paper and the 4x4 platform looks to me like it?s got more of a future.
That?s not poking Intel, it may be poking rigid minds, that are beating down future CPU?s based on the (FX twin 90nm CPU?s performance and power consumption).
I admire AMD?s show of some resistance at this time against the Intel Cartel, it was a brave move from AMD and I respect them for trying.
Originally posted by: beggerking
Originally posted by: Mr Vain
I run 2 Intel and one AMD rigs at the moment. If I was going to buy a dual core CPU today it would be a Conroe.
As far as 4Core CPU?s are concerned I would not buy one till the Agenas come online and I see their performance on the AM2 & 4x4 platforms versus the Intel offering. IMO the AMD 4 Core CPU?s look like a better processor so far on paper and the 4x4 platform looks to me like it?s got more of a future.
That?s not poking Intel, it may be poking rigid minds, that are beating down future CPU?s based on the (FX twin 90nm CPU?s performance and power consumption).
I admire AMD?s show of some resistance at this time against the Intel Cartel, it was a brave move from AMD and I respect them for trying.
native 4 core will always be better, but it doesn't exist yet.. I would like to see AMD back on top so we could keep buying cheaper CPUs w. better performance (as in the athlon era), but that isnt happening now..AMD seems to be heading towards GPU-CPU thing more than the 4x4 platform..I'm worried..