Originally posted by: Mithan
Does anybody know of a reliable ETA for this new CPU?
I decided today to upgrade, but I think it might be smarter to wait for the 3700 plus the 939 motherboards with Dual Channel memory, but again, Im not sure of the ETA...
Thanks.
Originally posted by: mldeveloper
Any guess on an expected price for the 3500?
Well I plan to get the 3700, though I wouldn't mind the new 3800 with a 939 Motherboard. I am a little hesitant though since I think the quality of the first rev 939's may not be the best...
Originally posted by: Aelius
I agree with jrphoenix.
Reason being is actually quite simple, assuming AMD sticks to its planned price point based on the below.
AMD is switching from a single to a dual channel memory controler in the CPU, which is a lot cheaper than to stay with 1024K HT (FSB doesn't exist in AMD 64bit CPUs so HT (Hyper Transport) is the proper name now). Instead they will tone the HT to 512K on all the A64 chips while they will leave the 1024K HT on the FX line that is migrating to S939 just like the A64.
In other words AMD hopes to cut costs based on the fact that a smaller HT means larger yields (less chance of defects) as the chip is actually smaller due to 512K HT instead of 1024K HT. I'm not sure if it effects heat in anyway. Perhaps someone whom is more technically inclined could answer that since that would impact OCing. Also it costs a lot less to produce CPUs with dual memory controlers as opposed to the extra 512K HT that some of them currently have.
Overall it is a cost cutting measure which, hopefully, will translate to lower costs per CPU for us.
No one really knows what the exact price points will be but considering the above it is safe to say that the Newcastle core CPUs with dual channel memory controlers and 512K HT will cost a notch or two less than the current CPUs of similar performance.
Perhaps the biggest question is how these new CPUs will stack up against the old ones with 1024K HT.
Hopefully we will find out in about two and a half weeks.
Originally posted by: AnandTech Deals
I heard rumor of a 3600+ chip which will actually be an FX-51. We will see, i havent confirmed it yet.
Kristopher
Originally posted by: formulav8
Originally posted by: Aelius
I agree with jrphoenix.
Reason being is actually quite simple, assuming AMD sticks to its planned price point based on the below.
AMD is switching from a single to a dual channel memory controler in the CPU, which is a lot cheaper than to stay with 1024K HT (FSB doesn't exist in AMD 64bit CPUs so HT (Hyper Transport) is the proper name now). Instead they will tone the HT to 512K on all the A64 chips while they will leave the 1024K HT on the FX line that is migrating to S939 just like the A64.
In other words AMD hopes to cut costs based on the fact that a smaller HT means larger yields (less chance of defects) as the chip is actually smaller due to 512K HT instead of 1024K HT. I'm not sure if it effects heat in anyway. Perhaps someone whom is more technically inclined could answer that since that would impact OCing. Also it costs a lot less to produce CPUs with dual memory controlers as opposed to the extra 512K HT that some of them currently have.
Overall it is a cost cutting measure which, hopefully, will translate to lower costs per CPU for us.
No one really knows what the exact price points will be but considering the above it is safe to say that the Newcastle core CPUs with dual channel memory controlers and 512K HT will cost a notch or two less than the current CPUs of similar performance.
Perhaps the biggest question is how these new CPUs will stack up against the old ones with 1024K HT.
Hopefully we will find out in about two and a half weeks.
I am not sure what you mean by 512 HT and 1024 HT. HyperTransport doesn't have anything to do with the L2 cache sizes. They are actually increasing the hypertransport speed to 1ghz not lowering it.
They are lowering the L2 CACHE from 1024KB to 512KB, except on the FX model which will still have 1024KB L2 CACHE.
Jason