AMD 7000 Series Desktop Graphics Parts Delayed to Q2 or Q3 2012?

[SirPauly]

FYI, there were numerous cases of GTX 590's that basically caught on fire (from the VRM), quite a few users at overclock.net posted pictures. I don't have any links to threads, but it did happen and many users there attested to it.

Thats why nvidia recommends to never overclock a 590, and the clock speed for 590 is far lower than the 580.

One can over-clock a GTX-590, but one can't over-volt.

 

[notty22]

I still don't get why Nvidia's prior issues are being dished out in the AMD is now going to be late thread.
Maybe they are doing this to avoid all the issues with the 5 series ? Put out a more polished product possibly ?

ATI 5800 Series Grey Screen of Death
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AMD has publicly confirmed reports of crashes with its ATI Radeon HD 5000-series graphics processors, which result in users systems displaying a series of grey or coloured lines.

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[Eugene86]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=196.75

Ok, so let's see. Here's the article copied verbatim from the very first link that you googled:

Summary: I’m getting a steady stream of reports in from NVIDIA users that the latest 196.75 drivers can cause severe cooling problems, even possibly resulting in the death of the hardware.

[UPDATE: Information on updated drivers can be found here.]

I’m getting a steady stream of reports in from NVIDIA users that the latest 196.75 drivers can cause severe cooling problems, even possibly resulting in the death of the hardware.

The problem seems to be related to the fan controller, causing the fans to slow down, and even stop. This happening while the card is in use is a very bad thing indeed, and can cause poor performance (as the GPU tries to cool itself down by reducing power) and possibly even overheat your GPU to the point where the card stops working.

NVIDIA 196.75 drivers were released on March 2nd, and have now been removed from the download site. If you are running these drivers it is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED that you uninstall this driver and immediately downgrade to the 196.21 drivers.

Here’s the official statement from NVIDIA:

We are aware that some customers have reported fan speed issues with the latest 196.75 WHQL drivers on NVIDIA.com. Until we can verify and root cause this issue, we recommend that customers stay with, or return to 196.21 WHQL drivers. Release 196.75 drivers have been temporarily removed from our Web site in the meantime.

If in the past few days you’re upgraded your NVIDIA drivers and your PC has since died (and you’re somehow reading this &#8230 then this could be the cause of your problems. I’ve already received several reports from gaming enthusiasts who claim that their systems died shortly after installing these drivers, which while not conclusive, is certainly enough indication to me that these drivers could be very toxic and should be avoided.


So where in this article do you see anything regarding explosions, fire, face-melting-due-to-money-hungry-nvidia?
And it seems like there are many if's, but's, possibilities, and claims in this article. Ever heard of sensationalist reporting?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRo-1VFMcbc

Hey guys, let's take one example and apply it to every piece of hardware that a manufacturer makes...

It obviously can't be that some people with dead cards are jumping on the bandwagon to blame it on a new driver that, apparently, causes issues to only some people...

 

[PCboy]

Not sure why you directed that to me but you're missing the whole point of it all. The fact this driver passed beta and was actually available for the public to use. Reports spread so Nvidia had to take it down and release a warning.

Were there reports of an ATI/AMD driver doing that? No.

With that said, if only Fallen hadn't derailed the thread by mentioning ATI drivers to begin with, we wouldn't be having this pointless debate because this obviously doesn't apply to us or else we would both hate Nvidia if it did happen to any of our precious 400+ dollar cards. I only gave you the link so you can figure out what silverforce meant when he said that.

 

[Vesku]

Not sure if it will squeak in this year, but it looks like AMD is going to beat NVIDIA to launch again. Hope the 7000 series keeps the 5000 and 6000 trend going.

 

[Seero]

Not sure why you directed that to me but you're missing the whole point of it all. The fact this driver passed beta and was actually available for the public to use. Reports spread so Nvidia had to take it down and release a warning.

Were there reports of an ATI/AMD driver doing that? No.

With that said, if only Fallen hadn't derailed the thread by mentioning ATI drivers to begin with, we wouldn't be having this pointless debate because this obviously doesn't apply to us or else we would both hate Nvidia if it did happen to any of our precious 400+ dollar cards. I only gave you the link so you can figure out what silverforce meant when he said that.

Yes, AMD video cards were being fried and AMD did absolutely nothing about it.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/248426046

http://forums.wowgrunt.com/sc2/thread.php?region=us&forumID=13438&pageNo=1&id=374937517

http://sc2armory.com/forums/topic/18971

It is the game when it is red, it is the driver when it is green.

 

[Grooveriding]

Who tried to spin this off as something related to Starcraft 2 ? Starcraft 2 was burning out video cards because the menu screen was basically running your cards the way Furmark does; pushing them as hard as possible.

People with inadequate cooling or cards on the brink of dying had their cards burn out.

The issue someone mentioned about those nvidia drivers was this one

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/13306-latest-nvidia-driver-19675-causing-some-video-card-fans-to-stop/

Nvidia released drivers that broke the fan profiles on certain video cards and they burnt out because the fan wasn't spinning while the cards were being stressed.

Then there were the GTX 590s exploding until they released drivers that patched the hardware flaw with the cards to throttle them once they are pushed beyond their stock performance.



Once again though, same old posters whining and derailing another thread with flamebait.

 

[Phynaz]

Don't say 590's burn up and explode if you've never had it happen to you.

Logic fail.

I've never owned a Pinto. Does that mean they weren't catching fire when rear ended?

Or,
I've never been struck by lightning. Since it hasn't happened to me that means it has never happened.

 

[ViRGE]

When there's new news of any possible delay we can open this back up. Until then this thread is closed since no one seems to be talking about the 7000 series anymore.
-ViRGE