AMD 7970 v Nvidia GTX 770

[BallaTheFeared]

It's another 7970 that is $300, granted not a GHz but it's in the same vein.

Perhaps Sapphire got the go ahead to drop prices before some of the other AIBs, or maybe Newegg just started getting the new pricing, how should you or anyone else without insider information know?

nVidia is refreshing, while already having already had superior perf/w it's just increasing now.

7970 looks old and tired at this point, much like the games it includes. It's a year and a half old.

At least two cards are faster, debatable on a third. Any other generation that's your x870 bracket. Prices are dropping because they need to.

 

[balane]

It's another 7970 that is $300, granted not a GHz but it's in the same vein.

Perhaps Sapphire got the go ahead to drop prices before some of the other AIBs, or maybe Newegg just started getting the new pricing, how should you or anyone else without insider information know?

nVidia is refreshing, while already having already had superior perf/w it's just increasing now.

7970 looks old and tired at this point, much like the games it includes. It's a year and a half old.

At least two cards are faster, debatable on a third. Any other generation that's your x870 bracket. Prices are dropping because they need to.

So the third fastest video card (Edit: Single GPU from any manufacturer, going to head off any possible word games today.) currently available on the market is considered, "Old and tired?" I just want to make sure I'm comprehending the point you're attempting to make here.

And if you didn't know why the card was priced lower than competition you simply didn't have to answer the question. That would have been fine. I can't see any reason you would be motivated to answer by posting a link to something as irrelevant as another model card from the same manufacturer. I have absolutely no understanding how that might answer the question.

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[BallaTheFeared]

You asked why it was so "cheap", I'm telling you why.

It's old, it's slower than it was when it was priced higher compared to the market.

It uses more power for similar performance than newer cards, and it's bundle is five months old now.

It's not even unique, as there are other 7970's priced lower, comparable to when the 7970 was $380 and GHz was $430.

I know why it's priced lower than the competition, it needs to be or it won't sell. What I don't know is why that brand is the first to move down to the new pricing.

 

[balane]

What I don't know is why that brand is the first to move down to the new pricing.

And that's exactly my original question.

Why is this card so cheap?

 

[tweakboy]

Close call but go with nvida you aget phsyx and also cuda and drivers will give you no problems where CCC are the drivers from hell. thx gl

 

[echineko]

And that's exactly my original question.

I guess I'm a bit suspicious, but seeing it on sale at multiple sites makes me think there's some reason they're offloading it, rather than the goodness of their hearts.

The earlier comment about the size of the shroud and awkwardness in trying to setup an dual GPU config has pretty much sold me on waiting for a deal on the GTX 780.

Good news being its not too far from the 4th, should be some deals to be had, right?

 

[SlowSpyder]

good deal, but best cooler? i don't see anything particular about it, dual fan.

I've owned a few Sapphire Toxic and Vapor-X cards. I've used my Vapor-X 5870's in CF, and if I recall correctly my GPU's rarely saw temps much over 70C. And they're amazingly quiet in my opinion. But I may be a bit biased now that I have a reference 7970... it's not that quiet. ^_^

 

[Will Robinson]

You asked why it was so "cheap", I'm telling you why.

It's old, it's slower than it was when it was priced higher compared to the market.

It uses more power for similar performance than newer cards, and it's bundle is five months old now.

It's not even unique, as there are other 7970's priced lower, comparable to when the 7970 was $380 and GHz was $430.

I know why it's priced lower than the competition, it needs to be or it won't sell. What I don't know is why that brand is the first to move down to the new pricing.

Why did you buy two "old and tired " cards from the same series then?
Also why buy two cards then spend every forum post bashing them and the company that produces them?
I would only do that if I were being paid to do so.

 

[RussianSensation]

I guess I'm a bit suspicious, but seeing it on sale at multiple sites makes me think there's some reason they're offloading it, rather than the goodness of their hearts.

EVGA had a fire sale on GTX480s back in the day at $175-225 and then those cards went back up to $250-275. Nothing about those reference 480s was wrong. If you find a sale on a 7970 for $300, I would consider it as a stop-gap card.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Why did you buy two "old and tired " cards from the same series then?
Also why buy two cards then spend every forum post bashing them and the company that produces them?
I would only do that if I were being paid to do so.

Because I needed a card, also that was four months ago.

It only seems that way because of your emotional attachment.

Nobody would pay you to post.

 

[Elfear]

I guess I'm a bit suspicious, but seeing it on sale at multiple sites makes me think there's some reason they're offloading it, rather than the goodness of their hearts.

The earlier comment about the size of the shroud and awkwardness in trying to setup an dual GPU config has pretty much sold me on waiting for a deal on the GTX 780.

I've been using a Dual-X for a couple months and it is the 4th card in a Crossfire setup. There are a couple millimeters between it and the side of the case so it is really wedged in there. Mining at 1050Mhz I never see temps over 70C. It is a great card and a great cooler.

Granted I do have an open-style case but good airflow will alleviate heat build-up in a closed case.

 

[BYOGamingPC]

I also saw a great deal on the Sapphire Vapor-X 7970 GHz http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008PQAE98 which is an amazing deal! Also has a $20 rebate and I believe you can still get free games with it.

 

[echineko]

I also saw a great deal on the Sapphire Vapor-X 7970 GHz http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008PQAE98 which is an amazing deal! Also has a $20 rebate and I believe you can still get free games with it.

There's also an additional coupon available on Newegg, which made the final price $327 with rebate, I finally bit Well, this will do until the next refresh, will rethink getting a new GPU with the new architecture then.

Might just get me another for Crossfire, depending how I feel later on.

 

[balane]

Those four games insta-sold for me on eBay for $34, a price which slightly undercut the other listings at the time I posted it. I got $180 for my Asus 7870.

Going from a 7870 to a 7970 GHz Edition cost me;

$370 - $20 (Rebate) - $34 (Games) - $180 (7870) + $25 (eBay seller fees) = $161 Net Cost

Secret World @ 1920x1200 is noticeably more playable with the settings maxed, it never dips below 45fps now. Similar increases can be noticed in Guild Wars 2. This was one of the better value upgrades I've made in a while.

 

[OatisCampbell]

Probably because...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814202008

7970 isn't a top tier card anymore, and the bundle is depressingly old at this point.

Even $300 is high imo, $250 sounds good until 20nm. (Of course this means I think nVidia is overpriced as well)

Looks like the bundle is gone at newegg.

However, TigerDirect has it and it would tip the scale to 7970 for me in the single card decision. (and did)

 

[monster88]

You asked why it was so "cheap", I'm telling you why.

It's old, it's slower than it was when it was priced higher compared to the market.

It uses more power for similar performance than newer cards, and it's bundle is five months old now.

It's not even unique, as there are other 7970's priced lower, comparable to when the 7970 was $380 and GHz was $430.

I know why it's priced lower than the competition, it needs to be or it won't sell. What I don't know is why that brand is the first to move down to the new pricing.

you are perhaps the most blatant nvidia fanboy i've encountered yet.....it's amazing. how much are they paying you, shill?

Warning issued for personal attack.
-- stahlhart

 

[bystander36]

you are perhaps the most blatant nvidia fanboy i've encountered yet.....it's amazing. how much are they paying you, shill?

What is interesting is he uses AMD cards in crossfire now. I think disgruntled is a better description.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

you are perhaps the most blatant nvidia fanboy i've encountered yet.....it's amazing. how much are they paying you, shill?

We both know that was a weak attempt at best for a member call out. The only company I could possibly be shilling for is AMD, because they don't require disclosure.

Instead of attacking other members, why not instead produce something that refutes what they believe to be factual information/reasons?

Besides, if I was shilling for anyone at this point it would have to be Intel. They sent me this awesome cherry picked 60C at 4.8GHz 1.25v i5, pick one up today!

 

[jpeyton]

Given that 7970s are going for close to $300AR on Newegg, and 770s are $400, I'd go with AMD. Same performance, 25% less money.

 

[3DVagabond]

We both know that was a weak attempt at best for a member call out. The only company I could possibly be shilling for is AMD, because they don't require disclosure.

Instead of attacking other members, why not instead produce something that refutes what they believe to be factual information/reasons?

Besides, if I was shilling for anyone at this point it would have to be Intel. They sent me this awesome cherry picked 60C at 4.8GHz 1.25v i5, pick one up today!

Source for that claim? You are accusing them of breaking laws in the US. What you are saying here can have serious ramifications, either for you, if you are lying, or AMD, if you should actually have some sort of evidence.

Edit: This doesn't excuse anyone calling you out either, which was just as wrong.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

As well it may be, off-topic it is though.

 

[echineko]

There's also an additional coupon available on Newegg, which made the final price $327 with rebate, I finally bit Well, this will do until the next refresh, will rethink getting a new GPU with the new architecture then.

Might just get me another for Crossfire, depending how I feel later on.

I'm seriously considering getting a 2nd 7970 Vapor-X, just wondering if it will fit OK on a Maximus VI Extreme? I've read some comments on other threads saying these cards are a bit bulky and cause problems in a multi GPU setup. Anyone got these in Crossfire right now?

 

[bystander36]

Given that 7970s are going for close to $300AR on Newegg, and 770s are $400, I'd go with AMD. Same performance, 25% less money.

Until crossfire is fixed, it is not the same performance (assuming you are talking about crossfire). Though in a month that may change.

 

[powruser]

7970 and 770 are both good cards. Me, I went with Asus 770.

 

[RaistlinZ]

I've owned both. The 7970 is a great card, but the 770 is faster for the one game I actually play.

You can't go wrong with either one really.