AMD 870K and 880K @ Newegg

Shehriazad

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Eh...at this point Ima just wait for "AM4" XV....

This should have been released like a year ago.
 

Justinbaileyman

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Oh damn it, I thought that was for the new AM4 platform
What the hell is AMD releasing FM2+ refresh CPU's for when AM4 is coming out any time now??
They should of just put these Die's on AM4 wafers and called it a day..
 

Soulkeeper

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yeah, and they weren't even excavator based
I see them as a upgrade for those who bought fm2+ with the cheaper single module APUs early, or someone that's just bored I guess.
 

Justinbaileyman

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I could of swore I read some where here on the forums AMD was making the 880K for the new AM4 motherboards coming out so AMD could get the AM4 motherboards into circulation early? Or did i just dream that up?
 

myocardia

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When they say, "AMD quiet cooler", do they mean the Wraith? BTW, who in their right mind would buy an 870k, when the 880k is only $5 more? That 880k looks nice.

The A10-7890k is available as well.

Hah, so it is! That one comes with the Wraith cooler, and includes a nice iGPU. I'm liking it more than the 880k, actually... And yeah, too bad that they didn't release these three on the AM4 socket, although I'm guessing that they will, at least for the 7890k.

edit: Anyone agree/disagree that AMD will likely release the 7890k on the AM4 socket?
 
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cbn

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When they say, "AMD quiet cooler", do they mean the Wraith?

It is the same cooler as the Wraith but without the plastic shroud and LED-lit AMD logo:

http://www.computershopper.com/components/reviews/amd-athlon-x4-880k

Essentially, the Athlon X4 880K's cooler is the same as the quite-good AMD Wraith Cooler that ships with the flagship A10-7890K and FX-8370. AMD says the only difference is that the lesser cooler included here lacks the plastic shroud and LED-lit AMD logo of the Wraith. (The company dubbed this one a "Wraith-class" cooler in its briefing on this chip.)

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/72286-amd-athlon-x4-880k-review.html

Another addition worth talking about is the new cooling solution the X4 880K processor ships with. It houses a quartet of heatpipes which make contact with a pure copper base and arch upwards into a large aluminum fin array for optimal heat dispersion. Thermal dissipation is rated at 125W which means there’s some thermal headroom if you want to overclock this 95W processor. While the design is basically the same as the one used for AMD’s new Wraith cooler, it doesn’t have the illuminated shroud.

 
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When they say, "AMD quiet cooler", do they mean the Wraith? BTW, who in their right mind would buy an 870k, when the 880k is only $5 more? That 880k looks nice.



Hah, so it is! That one comes with the Wraith cooler, and includes a nice iGPU. I'm liking it more than the 880k, actually... And yeah, too bad that they didn't release these three on the AM4 socket, although I'm guessing that they will, at least for the 7890k.

edit: Anyone agree/disagree that AMD will likely release the 7890k on the AM4 socket?

About 30 or 40 dollars too expensive (talking about the 7890k). Unless for some perverse reason one is determined to punish themselves by gaming on the igpu. That is close to low end locked i5 prices. Or the price for an athlon x4 plus a dgpu that will perform much better than the igpu on the 7890k.
 
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myocardia

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It is the same cooler as the Wraith but without the plastic shroud and LED-lit AMD logo:

Cool, thanks.

According to the following slide, the Athlon x 4 870K would have a different cooler:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10103/amd-launches-the-a107890k-and-athlon-x4-880k


Wow, that slide REALLY makes the 870k look bad. For $5 more, you get a faster chip, that also has a cooler that should be able to dissipate close to twice the heat. I'm guessing they won't sell very many of the 870k. Who cares, though, the 880k more than makes up for it.
 

Abwx

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Cool, thanks.
Wow, that slide REALLY makes the 870k look bad. For $5 more, you get a faster chip, that also has a cooler that should be able to dissipate close to twice the heat..

Not sure that 125W is close to being the double of 95W, but who knows what the slide really means...
 

DrMrLordX

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870k is an odd release. It was available several months ago in China, but not stateside. There's also some noise that the 7890k and 880k have something odd about them that makes them arbitrarily unable to run 4.7 GHz but I'm still trying to sort out that business. In any case, the 870k and 880k are more there for people who were in the market for the 860k but want something better. Some 860ks overclock like ass too, while both the 870k and 880k should hit 4.5-4.7 GHz pretty easily.

AM4 probably won't have any SR parts at all.

I do agree that these releases are very late. 7890k, 870k, and 880k should have been out last November, or not at all.
 

myocardia

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Not sure that 125W is close to being the double of 95W, but who knows what the slide really means...

I made no mention of either CPU's TDP, only of the amount of heat that a larger heatsink that includes heatpipes, and also has a larger fan, would be able to remove, compared to a smaller, all aluminum heatsink with no heatpipers and a smaller fan would be able to remove.
 
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Abwx

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I made no mention of either CPU's TDP, only of the amount of heat that a larger heatsink that includes heatpipes, and also has a larger fan, would be able to remove, compared to a smaller, all aluminum heatsink with no heatpipers and a smaller fan would be able to remove.

Well, according to the slide the 870K has a 125W cooler as well, it s the 860K/845 that have 95W coolers, and still, they were updated as well compared to previous 95W ones.

That said it s right that for the price difference it s better to pick the 880K over the 870K, silicon wise both are Godavari iterations, though..
 

myocardia

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Well, according to the slide the 870K has a 125W cooler as well, it s the 860K/845 that have 95W coolers,

Nope, look again. The 870k gets the identical cooler as the 860k, while the 880k and the 7870k get the less attractive/no LED version of the Wraith cooler that cbn linked in his first post.

hardwarecanucks said:
Another addition worth talking about is the new cooling solution the X4 880K processor ships with. It houses a quartet of heatpipes which make contact with a pure copper base and arch upwards into a large aluminum fin array for optimal heat dispersion. Thermal dissipation is rated at 125W which means there’s some thermal headroom if you want to overclock this 95W processor. While the design is basically the same as the one used for AMD’s new Wraith cooler, it doesn’t have the illuminated shroud.

edit: He (cbn) linked the article itself in his first post, if you want to read it.
 

Abwx

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Nope, look again. The 870k gets the identical cooler as the 860k, while the 880k and the 7870k get the less attractive/no LED version of the Wraith cooler that cbn linked in his first post.

That s right , i confused with the 7870K, neverless the 95W coolers displayed in this slide are not the same as the previous 95W coolers.

Here in France there s two offerings of the 860K, one is branded "Low noise edition" (and as new) while what look to be the previous 860K inventory is not.

http://www.ldlc.com/informatique/pieces-informatique/processeur/c4300/p1e48t3o0a1+fb-C000000805.html
 

nenforcer

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AM4 can't come soon enough. I'm glad AMD is making progress on stock thermal solutions though.

Yeah its common practice to release some new chips on an old platform just before introducing the new platform. All of these 870K and 880K chips were probably all of the Kaveri / Godaveri leftovers with non-functioning graphics. Only the 845K had the Excavator microarchitecture.

The upcoming Bristol Ridge AM4 is suppose to be the Carrizo desktop parts with Excavator MA, DDR4 support and an upgraded GCN architecture. I'm not upgrading to one of these chips but I will wait for one of the newer ones with an AMD Wraith cooler.
 

DrMrLordX

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870k = 7870k with failed iGPU
880k - 7890k with failed iGPU

Still too damn late in the product cycle, but oh well.
 

myocardia

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That s right , i confused with the 7870K, neverless the 95W coolers displayed in this slide are not the same as the previous 95W coolers.

Yeah, (at least newegg) is calling the new cooler for the 870k a "quiet" cooler. I guess maybe it has the same sized fan as the 880k & the Wraith, but without the heatpipes, and possibly a lower top speed for the fan? BTW, the lower speed for the fan is merely a guess on my part. I assume we'll find out soon enough, once a few people have bought them, or they get reviewed by a few hardware sites.

edit: BTW, I made the identical mistake the first time I looked at that slide. My brain only picked out the last three letters of the 7870k. I had to look at it again, before I realized it said 7870k, instead of 870k.
 
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