AMD 939 OWNERS UNITE

[fiveapes]

It seems to me that with the current state of affairs with the CPU wars that it makes sense to at least offer a 65nm upgrade for the Socket 939 platform before they send it to the socket graveyard. With performance crown currently in the hands of the other guys and the Am2 platform not showing me anything to be impressed with, what do you suppose it would take to persuade AMD produce a line of 65nm parts for Socket 939?

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: fiveapes
It seems to me that with the current state of affairs with the CPU wars that it makes sense to at least offer a 65nm upgrade for the Socket 939 platform before they send it to the socket graveyard. With performance crown currently in the hands of the other guys and the Am2 platform not showing me anything to be impressed with, what do you suppose it would take to persuade AMD produce a line of 65nm parts for Socket 939?

939 was EOL last month from what I understand. This is impossible.

 

[Regs]

Hah, it's not going to happen. (Though I wish they would or could).

 

[Aluvus]

The 65 nm parts on AM2 aren't showing you anything to be impressed with?

AMD is trying to differentiate Socket AM2 from Socket 939, and this is part of how they are doing it.

 

[aka1nas]

They would have to spin a whole "new" .65nm chip for socket 939. They can't just stick an AM2 chip into a different package due to the DDR2 controller. It ain't happening.

 

[harpoon84]

S939 and AM2 uses a different memory controller (DDR1 vs DDR2 obviously), so I think it's highly unlikely 65nm will ever be released for S939.

 

[Zenoth]

Technologies move forward fast, and we need to follow it if we intend to "change" our systems. Socket 939 is basically dead, other than what's left in the market right now. Whatever you want to buy next you'll need to move with the majorities. The point here is to let you know that wishing for the past to be part of the present and future isn't quite feasible, especially not in the computing/electronics domain.

 

[tallman45]

They have already retooled their assembly lines, they will never revert back.

Thanks like saying how about making a few hundred Pentium III's they were great processors !!

 

[11427]

I dunno,... I would not classify AM2 as moving forward,.... barely a lateral move in my book.

 

[Munky]

I'm a s939 user, but even so I wouldnt upgrade my processor even if a 65nm part was available, because clock for clock it would still fall behind a C2D. Moreover, I dont expect the early 65nm parts from AMD to OC much better than 90nm parts. The 90nm dual cores are still a viable upgrade option for those using a single core A64. Those who already have a dual core and want more would be better off with a new C2D build. I dont want to keep investing resources in an aging architecture when it's already behind the competition no matter how high you clock it. I'd rather build a new rig using either the C2D or the K8L, depending on how soon I need an upgrade.

 

[Arkaign]

939 is still a great platform for those already with systems. It has proven to have had a fanstastic usable lifespan, and with smart upgrade choices and overclocking, competitive with some of the fastest stuff out there. Of course C2D is almost a no-brainer for a new system build, but if you are on 939, best to get more use out of it unless you have gobs of money to spend on new memory/mobo/etc.

 

[BassBomb]

939 FTW

I have the motherboard that first supported 939

 

[espress0]

I am getting an intel and giving my old comp to my grandma.

 

[Stumps]

I am getting an intel and giving my old comp to my grandma.

So what?

 

[Pugnate]

Well my 939 socket MSI Neo 4 Plat. and AMD64 3800 Venice are still lying around. I want to upgrade it to a half-decent dual core. Any suggestions?

 

[espress0]

Originally posted by: Stumps

I am getting an intel and giving my old comp to my grandma.

So what?

So 939 is old news.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Originally posted by: Aluvus
The 65 nm parts on AM2 aren't showing you anything to be impressed with?

65nm parts on AM2 haven't even been reviewed yet. Nobody has any that I can tell.

s939 65nm parts? May as well ask for 65nm parts on slotA . . .

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: espress0

Originally posted by: Stumps

I am getting an intel and giving my old comp to my grandma.

So what?

So 939 is old news.

not really, I'm still running a 754 E6 venice @2.87ghz

your post just didn't make any real sense...as far as the OP goes any way

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: espress0

Originally posted by: Stumps

I am getting an intel and giving my old comp to my grandma.

So what?

So 939 is old news.

not really, I'm still running a 754 E6 venice @2.87ghz

your post just didn't make any real sense...as far as the OP goes any way

There are some people out there still running PII's, PIII's and T-bird's as well. So, compared to those folks, your system isn't old news. Nice o/c BTW.

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: espress0

Originally posted by: Stumps

I am getting an intel and giving my old comp to my grandma.

So what?

So 939 is old news.

not really, I'm still running a 754 E6 venice @2.87ghz

your post just didn't make any real sense...as far as the OP goes any way

There are some people out there still running PII's, PIII's and T-bird's as well. So, compared to those folks, your system isn't old news. Nice o/c BTW.

I still have a couple of K6-2+'s and 3+'s in my collection that are fully operational and have some old school gaming duties on my Win98se network.

the specs of my A64 system are Athlon 64 3000+@2.87Ghz (287x10 1.525v)on a Gigabyte K8NS PRO and BFG 7800GS using a slightly modified Thermaltake Aquarius 2 watercooling kit.

the Average temps on a 30c+ day get around 35c at idle and 42-45c at full load, it's 52hrs prime95 stable (I got sick of waiting and turned prime95 off).

According to Sisoft it performs slightly ahead of a A64 4000+....not a bad effort for and "old" skt 754 system.

 

[Yellowbeard]

Originally posted by: fiveapes what do you suppose it would take to persuade AMD produce a line of 65nm parts for Socket 939?

It would require that AMD make a TRUCKLOAD of money off of a new fab which, as noted above, is not going ti happen. $$$ is the bottom line here. And, since good clocking DDR is virtually extinct it would not be a good idea for anyone, MOBO makers, memory makers, or AMD. About the only conceivable way I can see it happening is if somehow AMD got a HUGE portion of the OEM market and could make some 939s really cheap for that niche. But, that demand is gone and enthusiasts don't comprise enough market share to get any of this to happen.