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Native and true are not confusing connotations. There is nothing confusing about what I said. Do you understand that?
Originally posted by: zsdersw
CPUs are not car exhaust pipes. There is no such thing as a "false quad-core", so there also cannot be a "true quad-core".
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Native and true are not confusing connotations. There is nothing confusing about what I said. Do you understand that?
Originally posted by: Idontcare
On the flipside the fault first and foremost lies squarely on AMD. Just because no credible enthusiast review sites want to delve into a decent review of Phenom does not mean AMD can't do it for them. The fact that even AMD cares so little about ensuring Phenom users have a good tweak guide in their hands that they won't bother having even one PR person pull such a tweak guide together is the problem.
AMD's silence is deafening.
Don't blame the for-profit reviewers for doing what is in their best interests.
Blame the for-profit CPU manufacturer AMD for not doing what is in their best interests.
Originally posted by: Triskaine
Originally posted by: Idontcare
On the flipside the fault first and foremost lies squarely on AMD. Just because no credible enthusiast review sites want to delve into a decent review of Phenom does not mean AMD can't do it for them. The fact that even AMD cares so little about ensuring Phenom users have a good tweak guide in their hands that they won't bother having even one PR person pull such a tweak guide together is the problem.
AMD's silence is deafening.
Don't blame the for-profit reviewers for doing what is in their best interests.
Blame the for-profit CPU manufacturer AMD for not doing what is in their best interests.
Yep, it saddens me to see how AMD makes a bad situation worse, I mean at least they could try more to promote their own product and show people AND enthusiasts that Phenom isn't as bad as it is often made out to be.
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Triskaine
Originally posted by: Idontcare
On the flipside the fault first and foremost lies squarely on AMD. Just because no credible enthusiast review sites want to delve into a decent review of Phenom does not mean AMD can't do it for them. The fact that even AMD cares so little about ensuring Phenom users have a good tweak guide in their hands that they won't bother having even one PR person pull such a tweak guide together is the problem.
AMD's silence is deafening.
Don't blame the for-profit reviewers for doing what is in their best interests.
Blame the for-profit CPU manufacturer AMD for not doing what is in their best interests.
Yep, it saddens me to see how AMD makes a bad situation worse, I mean at least they could try more to promote their own product and show people AND enthusiasts that Phenom isn't as bad as it is often made out to be.
Are you saying we arent people
I agree with you. Stuff like this always makes me think computer nerds are half-retarded, because they end up debating stuff that has absolutely no significance.Originally posted by: zsdersw
CPUs are not car exhaust pipes. There is no such thing as a "false quad-core", so there also cannot be a "true quad-core". A CPU is either quad-core or it isn't. If it has 4 cores in one package, it's a quad-core CPU. If not, it's not. If you're going to talk about the differences between two quad-core CPUs then you use a term like "native" or "monolithic".. not "true".
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
wait, so i can't put my exhaust pipes on my computer and call it a car!
Originally posted by: Idontcare
(typing this from my rose, which by any other name still smells like a keyboard)
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Native and true are not confusing connotations. There is nothing confusing about what I said. Do you understand that?
Originally posted by: zsdersw
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Native and true are not confusing connotations. There is nothing confusing about what I said. Do you understand that?
I understand what you're saying, I'm just saying that what you've been saying is incorrect.
The term "true quad-core" is a blatant falsehood. It implies that there are quad-core CPUs out there without 4 cores in one package. There aren't.
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
I know that the Intel stuff is very popular right now, so AMD's processors really don't get as much exposure. So a lot of people I don't think realize how decent the Phenom can perform when the IMC/L3 is overclocked. From what I saw when the IMC/L3 reaches the 2.4GHz range the Phenom seems to be quite close clock for clock to the Q6600.
But, because the Phenom BE's have an unlocked multiplier most reviewers simply use that to get their overclock and call it a day.
Originally posted by: zsdersw
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Native and true are not confusing connotations. There is nothing confusing about what I said. Do you understand that?
I understand what you're saying, I'm just saying that what you've been saying is incorrect.
The term "true quad-core" is a blatant falsehood. It implies that there are quad-core CPUs out there without 4 cores in one package. There aren't.
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
I think its better explained as: For 100 million dollars. Water falls when it rains; True or False.
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
People will still use the term true when referring to AMD's phenom
Originally posted by: Idontcare
E8400 is definitely a false quad-core.
Originally posted by: zsdersw
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
People will still use the term true when referring to AMD's phenom
.. and they'll be wrong every time.
Originally posted by: zsdersw
Originally posted by: Idontcare
E8400 is definitely a false quad-core.
Haha.. well, I wasn't going to go there, but if you insist.
.. then every non-quad-core CPU is a "false quad-core"
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: zsdersw
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Native and true are not confusing connotations. There is nothing confusing about what I said. Do you understand that?
I understand what you're saying, I'm just saying that what you've been saying is incorrect.
The term "true quad-core" is a blatant falsehood. It implies that there are quad-core CPUs out there without 4 cores in one package. There aren't.
E8400 is definitely a false quad-core.
Q6600 is definitely a true quad-core.
But is Havendale a true quad-thread?