AMD A10-6800K Integrated GPU

[SPBHM]

the good thing is that you can buy other cases
this thing is using a 7750

 

[AtenRa]

the good thing is that you can buy other cases
this thing is using a 7750

That's bulkier than the one in my post, not to mention All in One PCs

 

[PA Systems]

I'm also interested in the A10-6800K. I'm willing to wait a bit for the price to go down which may only happen when the Kaveri's come out. Newegg keeps posting this processor as a "daily deal" but not discounting it further. They do have a current $10 off on the A8-6600K Richland but I have to wonder about it's performance via the built in graphics which is the lower number model 8570d as opposed the 8670d of the A10-6600k. On one hand I'm tempted to go with the lower priced apu just to get my build off the ground but would regret it if I found the A10-6800K suddenly dip in price by September. I'm not a gamer, I'm a photoshopper.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

I'm also interested in the A10-6800K. I'm willing to wait a bit for the price to go down which may only happen when the Kaveri's come out. Newegg keeps posting this processor as a "daily deal" but not discounting it further. They do have a current $10 off on the A8-6600K Richland but I have to wonder about it's performance via the built in graphics which is the lower number model 8570d as opposed the 8670d of the A10-6600k. On one hand I'm tempted to go with the lower priced apu just to get my build off the ground but would regret it if I found the A10-6800K suddenly dip in price by September. I'm not a gamer, I'm a photoshopper.

If you only using photoshop, you will not need the additional (256 shaders vs. 384) GPU performance of the 6800K. They're completely identical on the CPU side. The 6600K is only 200MHz slower at stock and being unlocked that's pretty much a non-issue.

Even a stock Intel HD2000 is enough for photoshop if it comes to that...

 

[AtenRa]

If you only using photoshop, you will not need the additional (256 shaders vs. 384) GPU performance of the 6800K. They're completely identical on the CPU side. The 6600K is only 200MHz slower at stock and being unlocked that's pretty much a non-issue.

Even a stock Intel HD2000 is enough for photoshop if it comes to that...

If the software hes using suports OpenCL (Musamage, Adobe CS6 etc), the higher GPU will be faster, so its better to get the A10-6800K if he will not use a discrete GPU.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...review-a10-6800k-a10-6700-benchmarked-18.html

 

[caution]

Yup, +1, Adobe loves APUs nowadays...

 

[sm625]

God those charts are horrific. It's like a game of "find the error". You have something called a "i3-2400" on the first chart, the other chart shows the same exact processor twice but gives two different results.... A 3rd gen i3 somehow outscores a 3rd gen i7. Smoke what?

 

[Insert_Nickname]

If the software hes using suports OpenCL (Musamage, Adobe CS6 etc), the higher GPU will be faster, so its better to get the A10-6800K if he will not use a discrete GPU.

A 6800K is certainly better. But I really think you need to look at those graphs you posted. Is the increased cost really worth it to shave 5-8 seconds in the first test and perhaps 30 seconds in the second, for personal use?. (the 6600K's performance should be somewhere around the 3850/3870K, perhaps a bit better)

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/trinity-vs-ivy-bridge_11.html#sect0

Its not a perfect link but you can extrapolate a bit from the 5600K. No one seems interested in doing tests on the lower-end APU's unfortunately.

A 6600K surely beats having an older PC or nothing.

 

[rkc86]

Hello

Sorry to bring old post. Which would you recommend? I only multi browse website and just play steam games only

Thanks

http://www.ebuyer.com/634851-zoostorm-desktop-pc-7260-3010

http://www.ebuyer.com/634849-zoostorm-desktop-pc-7260-3008

 

[sm625]

Hello

Sorry to bring old post. Which would you recommend? I only multi browse website and just play steam games only

Thanks

http://www.ebuyer.com/634851-zoostorm-desktop-pc-7260-3010

http://www.ebuyer.com/634849-zoostorm-desktop-pc-7260-3008

Neither. Your best bet for that price range is to buy a used E8x00 or Qxxxx pc and a new video card for it. You get get double the gaming performance for the same money.

 

[SPBHM]

Hello

Sorry to bring old post. Which would you recommend? I only multi browse website and just play steam games only

Thanks

http://www.ebuyer.com/634851-zoostorm-desktop-pc-7260-3010

http://www.ebuyer.com/634849-zoostorm-desktop-pc-7260-3008

for web browsing it should be fine, but "steam games" can be the most resource intensive games, or Half Life from 15 years ago

one thing, it says both PCs only have 1 memory slot used, so it's single channel memory, expect a significant drop in gaming performance compared to the normal performance for these APUs

 

[Insert_Nickname]

one thing, it says both PCs only have 1 memory slot used, so it's single channel memory, expect a significant drop in gaming performance compared to the normal performance for these APUs

Definitely add a second DIMM ASAP. Even if it means dropping to the cheaper A8-5600K. You do not want to use the system or game using only one memory channel. Running single channel can reduce performance up to 50%.

As a side note, my GA-F2A85XN comes with a warning sticker: "for HD video, use dual channel DDR3-1333MHz minimum"

And a small tip; use the "high performance" power profile under Windows 8.1. This disables core parking, which is problematic on Bulldozer/Piledriver/Steamroller-based APUs, and gives a significantly "snappier" system. Doesn't really matter on a desktop system, if you configure minimum processor state to 5%. Alternatively, disable C6 in BIOS.

 

[DominionSeraph]

Which would you recommend?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£53.70 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-DS2 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard (£37.97 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£56.83 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card (£65.98 @ CCL Computers)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£31.18 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.34 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £316.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-02 19:04 BST+0100)


Get the Mobo through Amazon. It's cheaper with their free shipping.
Get both the PSU and hard drive at Aria to save on shipping. (PSU costs £1 more but you save £3 in shipping with them bundled together.)

*closes 30 tabs*

 

[monstercameron]

get the a10 rig...

 

[MeldarthX]

I built for the kids to use on steam and web games with 6600k - 1833 4 gigs......damn thing runs everything thrown at it. WoT settings high 30 frames easy.....and lots of other steam games. at 1440 by 900.....

these run things a lot better than I thought they would.....

 

[Insert_Nickname]

these run things a lot better than I thought they would.....

They certainly do. Especially with that little tip I mentioned. Do try, you'll be positively surprised.

(for Windows 7, the "Bulldozer hot-fixes" does the same)

 

[MeldarthX]

They certainly do. Especially with that little tip I mentioned. Do try, you'll be positively surprised.

(for Windows 7, the "Bulldozer hot-fixes" does the same)

will check that out; pretty sure I put it for performance as they are running win 8...need to update it to 8.1 hehe.

but for a kids system that plays steam games; mmos; and browser games; thing runs everything at 900 near high or at high without any issues...

 

[Insert_Nickname]

will check that out; pretty sure I put it for performance as they are running win 8...need to update it to 8.1 hehe.

but for a kids system that plays steam games; mmos; and browser games; thing runs everything at 900 near high or at high without any issues...

I should perhaps specify this "trick" only works on 8.1. MS finally figured out not to enable core parking in the "high performance" profile in 8.1. If you use regular 8non1 there will not be any difference, you'll have to disable core parking manually to get the effect.

Edit; don't forget to set "minimum processor state" to 5% to let Cool'n'Quiet do its thing. Running at full throttle all the time uses a lot more power.