The i5-3317U has no issues really. Benches are ok. Just not very snappy. My 2500K is much faster. And the i3-3217U is really slow. All brandnew laptops and fresh installs. All on Windows 8.1 with Windows drivers. No official drivers out jet.Its obviously you got an issue that is not related to CPU performance. Since the 3217U is clearly the fastest of the lot. Kabini is simply a turd slow CPU.
Also completely MIA in 13.3 and 14 inch, meanwhile HP has had an Intel based 14 inch Chromebook for $300 for a couple of years now. I'm about to grab a $199 Acer C710-2834, but I'd happily consider a A4-5000 based system in the $250-300 range if it had a 11.6-14 inch screen $350 if it has to have Windows on it.
not quite 14" or under but here is gateway 15.6" a4-5000Both over $400, notice I'm talking budget notebooks. $570 for an A6-5200 based unit? HP Chromebook 14 is $300. Even a $300 11.6 inch A4-5000 notebook would be a welcome alternative to all the IB Celeron units available. But I'm not going to wait for AMD to improve its production and OEM collaboration, going to get a Chromebook or Ubuntu Celeron 1007u model.
not quite 14" or under but here is gateway 15.6" a4-5000
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834101326
I've used CPUs of that performance level, (and less! the virtually useless older Atoms!) and for my purposes it's just agonizing to run Windows on, even with an SSD.
Those prices are nutso for that level of performance. Perhaps running an OS that is leaner. I know the Chromebooks run fairly well, but that OS is a ton lighter than Win8, so the weak CPU isn't noticed that much.
I'm not a 98lb weakling, I would rather have a 4lb 14" notebook with a Core I-series (full speed variant) than a 2lb or even 1lb thing that is slower than molasses in December.
not quite 14" or under but here is gateway 15.6" a4-5000
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834101326
Component cost wise they could put those same internals in a 11.6 inch platform and keep the price about the same. So why aren't there any to buy of that size?
Heck, they can swap it into a 14 inch screen for a ~$50-70 markup, so why aren't there any in that price range?
maybe smaller sizes aren't as in demand?
They might not be as in demand as 15 inch desktop replacements but the sheer quantity (14 models just on Newegg) of smaller than 15 inch Intel units under $400 would strongly imply there is reasonable demand to put out products.
A4-1200 should realistically be in 11.6 inch $200-300 notebooks, but it's not.
Here's a perfect example of what we should be seeing in terms of A4-5000 (15W TDP), ASUS Intel 1000M (35W TDP) 14 inch 4GB RAM Windows 8 for $320, on sale at Fry's ~$270 with tax http://www.frys.com/product/7885449?...%20date:102513
Might get it over the Acer 710 chromebook, both 11.6 and 14 are tempting screen sizes for what I want it for. Would take an A4-5000 version of that ASUS over the Celeron 1000M though, should last longer on the cheap battery it must have in it.
Samsung is not crazy But in general that's what I notice with AMD CPU/APU based laptops. They are mostly very snappy. Somehow Intel laptops don't feel snappy except the 1s with an i7(4C/4HT). BTW I am not comparing them with benches only daily practical use.Yesterday i was in a very large Retailer shop and i had the opportunity to use the Samsung ATIV Book 9 lite NP905S3G(A6-1450) for a few minutes. The laptop was surprise-able fast, very responsive opening folders, browsing etc.
closer but the price is a bit higher
http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops...e-series/e145/
Ahh yes, we have this one here in Greece too. I can tell you that my first reaction when i saw the price was ....... *&^%^$$%$&%*((*
Yes it is very slim and nice but WTF, i can buy an i5 for less
I honestly don't think this is AMD price-gouging.* I think it's only because these 100 companies worldwide that sell products with AMD CPUs in them are selling so few of each model, that they are having to price their products higher, simply because they are not getting any at all of the "less profit per unit sold, but higher overall profits, because of the amount of units sold" concept, that seems to be working out well for their Intel products. The companies' fixed costs are the same per model, but if they're selling far fewer AMD-based products, their cost becomes higher per CPU for the AMD models, sadly, even though their cost to acquire the AMD CPUs are lower.
*Not that I'm implying that you were implying that AMD was price-gouging; I know that you weren't.
When I bought my Samsung XE700T1-02NL laptop the price dropped from 1200 euro to 800 euro. I also think they priced it to high and decided later to dump the price. But the quality is outstanding, also the swupdater is working nicely. Very nice and sturdy product.There is truth to this, up to a point. But the price of the Samsung ATIV Book 9 Lite NP905S3G is high because of the design (slim, lightweight), higher quality, SSD and the segment they are targeting.
But with every new CPU released, early models always command a price premium.
An Asus T100 with an A6-1450 would be great.
If so it would have active cooling, half the battery life, more weight and worse performance.
T100 runs circles around Samsung Ativ 9 Light.
http://liliputing.com/2013/10/first-look-asus-transformer-book-t100.html
It is shame Samsung is using TN panels in such expensive notebook
If so it would have active cooling, half the battery life, more weight and worse performance.
T100 runs circles around Samsung Ativ 9 Light.
http://liliputing.com/2013/10/first-look-asus-transformer-book-t100.html
It is shame Samsung is using TN panels in such expensive notebook
Again............you're comparing it with some benchmarks. It does not say anything about the user experience. And thats what counts in the end.
Sorry, my i5-3317U is fast in benchmarks but feels slow.........there is more to it than benchmarks. Go in the store and compare them in real life. Then benches mean little.Ugh user experience to a large degree is indicated by benchmarks. If benchmarks indicate that the new Atom is faster and more efficient, user experience is going to be better. Just one of those things.
Ugh user experience to a large degree is indicated by benchmarks. If benchmarks indicate that the new Atom is faster and more efficient, user experience is going to be better. Just one of those things.
Sorry, my i5-3317U is fast in benchmarks but feels slow.........there is more to it than benchmarks. Go in the store and compare them in real life. Then benches mean little.
Sorry, my i5-3317U is fast in benchmarks but feels slow.........there is more to it than benchmarks. Go in the store and compare them in real life. Then benches mean little.